Hygrometer shows 99%

[JimM]

You have been colored.

Ugh...way too much effort.

I agree, but I have to give her credit.
Who knows, maybe she'll figure something out.

 

[Roski]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA on so many levels :}

 

[Fran]

Hahahahahaha

 

[JimM]

I know what level I'm laughing at...SIR!
My mistake was just pointed out to me via PM.

 

[Fran]

Why didnt my parents call me Pedro? Or James? lol

 

[JimM]

Why didnt my parents call me Pedro? Or James? lol

Or Gene....no maybe not.

 

[satanslilhelper]

I just would have been honest and called you transgendered. LOL!!!

 

[Aschamne]

I see my OBTs all the time.

Do you have your haplos housed where they can burrow?

Yes, they can burrow. I just got lucky and all three H. lividum, H. minax, and H albostriatum burrows against the sides. I have two OBTs one is a webber and I see it all the time. However my other one dug a burrow in the center of the encloser and I am lucky to see it once a month.

Art

 

[nikinizor]

re: 99% humidity

Yes, they can burrow. I just got lucky and all three H. lividum, H. minax, and H albostriatum burrows against the sides. I have two OBTs one is a webber and I see it all the time. However my other one dug a burrow in the center of the encloser and I am lucky to see it once a month.

Art

I think you may need to ventilate....when I moved my setup from work to home I took a taxi and so as not to frighten the driver I put the enclosure in a plastic trash bag and in the 5 minutes it took to get home the humidity was at 100 percent! BAM! once we were set up at home(with a semi collapsed burrow) humidity went back to about 60% ...I keep my temps betweeen 65 and 78 depending on if its night or day in the terrarium( I keep her diurnal cycle differnt from mine so she is more active when I am there) she is almost always out unless I am stomping around or blaring the tv......schultz(I may be wrong on the name- I am sure someone will scorch me if I am incorrect)wrote a book on tatantula keeping and has been very insistent that humidity is not nearly as important as we think it is and they can be very tolerant as long as water is provided. I will try to find the lnik to his report that I am talking about! good luck!

 

[robc]

If you get an expensive hygrometer,(Not in pet sotres) obviously the readings will be more accurately.

I still dont understand whats the problem with keeping good hygrometers.
Is not complicating your life at all, is just providing a better yet conditions.
:?

I agree Fran, I have 2 commercial grade hydeometers that momitor my in wall humidifier and i can st the humidity at what I want.....I think it is important with breeding also.

 

[campj]

Yes, they can burrow. I just got lucky and all three H. lividum, H. minax, and H albostriatum burrows against the sides. I have two OBTs one is a webber and I see it all the time. However my other one dug a burrow in the center of the encloser and I am lucky to see it once a month.

Art

Our H. ablo and new H. longipes have both burrowed but the come out every night. The albo pretty much makes a couple laps around her enclosure after sundown and then rests at the entrance of her burrow the rest of the night. The longipes has been resting half out of the burrow after sundown. Not sure what we're doing differently from people who rarely seen their haplos (are they being kept humid enough?), but we haven't experienced "pet hole" yet.

The female OBT on the other hand is only seen inside her web-home... she hasn't come out once that I've seen since she constructed it about a month ago when we got her. She has been refusing food too, so I'm hoping she's in premolt and not that there's something wrong with her. With exception of the web, overall boring spider though.

Sorry to aid in the hijacking of this thread

 

[curiousme]

The problem with hygrometers is that they measure relative humidity(RH). This means that temperature fluctuations, will also make your RH go up and down, even though it is the same air/ humidity as before the temp shift. All you're are doing with the hygrometer is giving yourself something else to pay attention to when checking your Ts.

(yes, we have a couple and yes we have used them in the past, but have determined that a full water dish and wetting of the substrate will keep the humidity where you want it just fine)

 

[mattking164]

i think you should get ride of it if broken with Ts you gess i would only use them with slings you no a big tank with all the tubs in side but just gess i do.

 

[curiousme]

i think you should get ride of it if broken with Ts you gess i would only use them with slings you no a big tank with all the tubs in side but just gess i do.

I do not understand what you are trying to say. Can you try again, maybe with punctuation?

 

[Loudog760]

You should always Calibration your Hygrometer. I'll post a link to the info below. When its done, and if you did it right it should say 75% humidity. Lucky I smoke cigars so I do this often and now I can pass this info on to another hobby. I think the link to the site says something about using a coffee cup. But you can just use a soda cap with salt inside a sealed Ziploc container. Make sure its more like paste and not watered down. Read the link!


http://www.burgessviolins.com/calibration.html

 

[Fran]

I agree that you dont have to take care of every single tiny thing in this hobby, cos if you do you dont even enjoy the T's.
I agree that, well, if you want the wild for your t's, let them be in the wild, as Joe pointed out before. I agree.

But I still dont understand how is possible that people talk about "fine temps" or "fine humidity" like out of the blue.
"Thats fine..." -Why? - "Dunno but thats fine, cos I think so"
"The temp is fine for me, so thats fine".

I dont get it. I dont get how some people,without doing any research or based on anything, has a special 6th sense to know and determinate how things affect the spiders.
Maybe they have some extra sensorial powers.

PS: Not that is the same thing, but just for example, we can keep ourselves alive conected to a machine and be like a total vegetable.
Yeah we are alive, but that doesnt mean we are "fine".

"Hey, I have been smoking for 25 years and Im not dead, so it must be fine, so im gonna keep doing it.The experience gives me the reason."

 

[Bill S]

But I still dont understand how is possible that people talk about "fine temps" or "fine humidity" like out of the blue.
"Thats fine..." -Why? - "Dunno but thats fine, cos I think so"
"The temp is fine for me, so thats fine".

Sometimes they are correct and they just want to avoid making a hobby over-complicated. But also sometimes it's just an excuse for laziness. Sort of "If I convince myself that everything's fine, then I won't have to expend any energy to properly take care of things."

I'm somewhere in between these two. I do use thermometers and try to keep temperatures in a reasonable range. I have some cages set up in a place where I can control and maintain a higher humidity. But I still don't want to get too carried away with tiny details that probably will not affect the tarantula much anyway. Life's too short to get bogged down in minutiae. But I suppose if I had lots of money and free time I'd put together higher tech cage systems that would more closely duplicate nature.

 

[Steve Calceatum]

I'm sorry, Fran, but your post was a bit superfluous. You start by agreeing with Joe, then turn around and reaffirm (rather well, I might add) your former position on husbandry. What I don't get is how it makes any sense to do that.

PS: Not that is the same thing, but just for example, we can keep ourselves alive conected to a machine and be like a total vegetable.
Yeah we are alive, but that doesnt mean we are "fine".

"Hey, I have been smoking for 25 years and Im not dead, so it must be fine, so im gonna keep doing it.The experience gives me the reason."

There's a Matrix joke here...I know it!!! (I read that sentence, and had this vision of Neo and Smith fighting to free my Rose-Hair's mind)

Smoking leads to certain death. We ALL know that (and some of us still choose to do so). But we know jack about what is "Fine" for a tarantula. All we have are ideas, and rough guidelines. While yours may be good, and deserve to be brought to the discussion, they may not be practical for others to employ. If the spiders in someone's care are apparently "Fine" to us humans that don't know squat about them, then there is no harm. There's a friggin' HUGE archive of photos and videos on the net of people's T's that are "Fine." All we are left with in the end are ideals, anyway. At least until some hard facts backed by scientific study come to light that make us think twice about what we are doing.

The problem with hygrometers is that they measure relative humidity(RH). This means that temperature fluctuations, will also make your RH go up and down, even though it is the same air/ humidity as before the temp shift. All you're are doing with the hygrometer is giving yourself something else to pay attention to when checking your Ts.

(yes, we have a couple and yes we have used them in the past, but have determined that a full water dish and wetting of the substrate will keep the humidity where you want it just fine)

My mother loves meteorology. I called her last night, and she said the exact same thing about RH levels fluctuating with temperature...though much more elaborately and substantially elongated. Good call!!!

Also, your point about distraction is a good one. I do not need to be distracted when working with my S. calceatum, or H. mac. Those two of mine can be pretty elusive when they want to be.

I like this approach the best....straight up, middle-ground:
Don't overdo it, and don't neglect your responsibilities, either.

 

[Fran]

Is not superfluous

What Im saying is, I agree that we cant be too obsses taking care of every little tinny detail because in the end we wouldnt even enjoy the ts, but, the fact that the hobby is "simple" does not mean everything is fine, everything works.

15 degrees up or down in temperature wont affect you, but we dont how much it affects a tarantula in the long run...And so on.

Besides, buying a hygrometer is not nearly being obssesed with those tiny details

 

[Steve Calceatum]

Is not superfluous

What Im saying is, I agree that we cant be too obsses taking care of every little tinny detail because in the end we wouldnt even enjoy the ts, but, the fact that the hobby is "simple" does not mean everything is fine, everything works.

15 degrees up or down in temperature wont affect you, but we dont how much it affects a tarantula in the long run...And so on.

Besides, buying a hygrometere is not nearly being obssesed with those tiny details

You're going to get no argument from me. It is, after all, best to err on the side of caution. However, the tarantula doesn't need an overly doting keeper, either.

I'm a skinny dude, so 15 degrees either way actually does affect me. I've never been really tolerant of cold either, despite where I live. I've always kept my room temperature elevated, even before I started keeping T's. In my case, if I'm fine so are my T's.

I have toyed with the idea of getting a good thermo-hygro unit. However, I don't really see a need for one until I start breeding a few of my beauties....hopefully within the year to come.