Hey guys I’m new at this tarantula hobbyist thing but I’ve been thinking about owning a dwarf tarantula

Craig73

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How expensive are we talking? & Besides you don’t think the expos have any of them to sell?
Not sure about expos, but you’re looking at about $120 range for one.

Neoholothele olive go for about $12-$20, gold for about $40 and the others I mentioned for about $65-$95.

Shipping is about $45-$50 usually.
 

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Not sure about expos, but you’re looking at about $120 range for one.

Neoholothele olive go for about $12-$20, gold for about $40 and the others I mentioned for about $65-$95.

Shipping is about $45-$50 usually.
Does it come with all you need when you ordered it from dude? Like the substrate, the hide, the enclosure, and food plus the accessories and all of that other good stuff?
 

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Does it come with all you need when you ordered it from dude? Like the substrate, the hide, the enclosure, and food plus the accessories and all of that other good stuff?
Generally no, you're just buying the spider. Some vendors sell 'complete kits' for a higher cost than the spider alone.

Also seems like you're using them more in the later posts in this thread, but try to stick to scientific names. Common names are worthless and introduce uncertainty into what species you have / are discussing.
 

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I’ll message you.
Look forward to it
Generally no, you're just buying the spider. Some vendors sell 'complete kits' for a higher cost than the spider alone.

Also seems like you're using them more in the later posts in this thread, but try to stick to scientific names. Common names are worthless and introduce uncertainty into what species you have / are discussing.
Ahh. I understand what you mean. Thank you for that seriously. Even though I suck at it
 

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So Neoholothele incei can be a challenge due to their speed, but they have since good growth rates that they get out of the tiny sling stage pretty fast and you could have a MM with in short time. If you don’t mind possibly not seeing them much Cyriocosmus elegans of other Cyriocosmus spp. Are great. I love them.

here’s a list of the more commonly found dwarfs in the hobby I put together. I will be putting up the basics care and background information on them one of these days

 

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Hapalopus sp. Columbia! Hands down my favorite dwarf species. Awesome little T’s. Beautiful and quick growing, ferocious eater and fearless. They are very active too, which makes them fun to observe.
 

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Hapalopus sp. Columbia! Hands down my favorite dwarf species. Awesome little T’s. Beautiful and quick growing, ferocious eater and fearless. They are very active too, which makes them fun to observe.
hmmm, I’ll take these little ones under consideration, thank you for telling me about this.

So Neoholothele incei can be a challenge due to their speed, but they have since good growth rates that they get out of the tiny sling stage pretty fast and you could have a MM with in short time. If you don’t mind possibly not seeing them much Cyriocosmus elegans of other Cyriocosmus spp. Are great. I love them.

here’s a list of the more commonly found dwarfs in the hobby I put together. I will be putting up the basics care and background information on them one of these days

take as much time as you need for it. I’m in no hurry or rush whatsoever. But I thank you for that nonetheless
 

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Brazilian Blue Beauty dwarf species and I gotta say those are extremely beautiful. And also the Pumpkin Patch
I've been raising dwarf Ts for a very long time. The first species you mention (BTW please Latin names and DO NOT combine Latin names with common names in the same string of words, that's just plain wrong on PRINCIPLE)
The former species there is a great species but is extremely fast. It has no uriticating setae though!!


So Brazilian blue beauties aren’t quite ideal for beginners is that correct? But in your opinion what are ideal for beginners? Because I’ve heard that the Pumpkin Patch & E. Sp red, the Trinidadian olive and gold were best beginner species
H. chilensis is excellent, and the best dwarf. Raised many myself.






Pseudhapalopus sp.
@PapaSpyder26 I do not recommend anything from this genus for a new person. They come at 1/8" in size usually, and they are among the slowest growing genus out there. Most new people who get these end up killing it or get frustrated with the low metabolism.

Homoeomma Chilensis Sp Red
DO NOT combine Latin names with common names in the same string of words, that's just plain wrong on PRINCIPLE. And don't capitalize the species name, that's wrong too.

Incei sp Gold
See above, it is NOT sp Gold!! there is the gold and olive color/pattern form- SAME SPECIES. Olive is wild-type, Gold is a mutation of both pattern and color.
 

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So Neoholothele incei can be a challenge due to their speed, but they have since good growth rates that they get out of the tiny sling stage pretty fast and you could have a MM with in short time. If you don’t mind possibly not seeing them much Cyriocosmus elegans of other Cyriocosmus spp. Are great. I love them.

here’s a list of the more commonly found dwarfs in the hobby I put together. I will be putting up the basics care and background information on them one of these days

Ugh, I knew this what out there and totally blanked on it. I gotta bookmark it or put you on speed dial.
 

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So Neoholothele incei can be a challenge due to their speed, but they have since good growth rates that they get out of the tiny sling stage pretty fast and you could have a MM with in short time. If you don’t mind possibly not seeing them much Cyriocosmus elegans of other Cyriocosmus spp. Are great. I love them.
"Not seeing them much" is my opinion understatement. I repeat once again: I got my C. elegans in early August and I've seen it exactly 3 times: once when I bought it, once when it came out to eat, and once during rehousing. Yesterday I saw a sign of activity in his cup for the first time in 7 weeks. So in my opinion keeping a cup of dirt is as entertaining as keeping a C. elegans.

N. incei are fantastic but very fast, and mine gave me a threat pose and bit my brush during unpacking when it was less than 1/2". I don't have gold morph, two olives, but in my opinion, they are very gold and at the moment the most beautiful Ts in my collection. I love the golden, metallic color.

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...I do not recommend anything from this genus for a new person. They come at 1/8" in size usually, and they are among the slowest growing genus out there. Most new people who get these end up killing it or get frustrated with the low metabolism.
Good point, should have scrapped that recommendation. I’ve had mine for months and it’s stI’ll not much bigger than 1/16” when I got it.

I left the Neischnocolus sp. Panama off my list for size reason though. Smallest T I’ve ever had and don’t even know if it’s alive, haven’t seen it in 2+ months.
 

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Not seeing them much" is my opinion understatement. I repeat once again: I got my C. elegans in early August and I've seen it exactly 3 times: once when I bought it, once when it came out to eat, and once during rehousing. Yesterday I saw a sign of activity in his cup for the first time in 7 weeks. So in my opinion keeping a cup of dirt is as entertaining as keeping a C. elegans.
That’s why I said that cause I know that is the typical experience. I on the other hand see mine all the time, I rehoused it out of the deli cup I got it and it has been very terrestrial. It has been burrowed for a few weeks due to premolt but it left me a crystal clear window on the bottom so I can see it everyday and I just checked in with it this morning and it molted!
 

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Good point, should have scrapped that recommendation. I’ve had mine for months and it’s stI’ll not much bigger than 1/16” when I got it.

I left the Neischnocolus sp. Panama off my list for size reason though. Smallest T I’ve ever had and don’t even know if it’s alive, haven’t seen it in 2+ months.
I have the Pseud sp Columbia. Smallest sling Ive seen ever. It was microscopic, not an exaggeration. My eyesight is fine too. It has a very very slow metabolism. It's a very fast species when it wants to leave as well, not slow like some other dwarfs.
I think mine was less than 1/16th of an inch. I would have used calipers to measure it but it's in a tiny vial and it's too fast.
 

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H. chilensis are very difficult to find!! I’ve been looking for over a year now!
 

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I've been raising dwarf Ts for a very long time. The first species you mention (BTW please Latin names and DO NOT combine Latin names with common names in the same string of words, that's just plain wrong on PRINCIPLE)
The former species there is a great species but is extremely fast. It has no uriticating setae though!!




H. chilensis is excellent, and the best dwarf. Raised many myself.







@PapaSpyder26 I do not recommend anything from this genus for a new person. They come at 1/8" in size usually, and they are among the slowest growing genus out there. Most new people who get these end up killing it or get frustrated with the low metabolism.



DO NOT combine Latin names with common names in the same string of words, that's just plain wrong on PRINCIPLE. And don't capitalize the species name, that's wrong too.


See above, it is NOT sp Gold!! there is the gold and olive color/pattern form- SAME SPECIES. Olive is wild-type, Gold is a mutation of both pattern and color.
I don’t kill tarantulas. It’s just not my thing. Often times I can’t really pronounce certain Ts. Correct so I try to remember what they are. Which was why I said what I said. But thank you. For correcting me. On the matter besides I don’t mind certain tarantulas as slings. Because I’d love the experience of actually watching them grow despite it to become years for their full adult coloration other than that I am perfectly fine with them being 1/8 slings. It wouldn’t bother me. But hearing you say that people kill them? That’s just plain wrong. Ps you have extremely beautiful babies. And I just love their colorations.

H. chilensis are very difficult to find!! I’ve been looking for over a year now!
Seriously? are they really that hard to find?

Just takes practice. If you spend enough time on these boards researching the scientific names they just become second nature
hmmm, I’ll do just that. Thank you for telling me about that. Even though I suck with Scientific names. There are several that are actually gorgeous (regular sized) Ts
 
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I've only ever came across one H Chillensis for sale and it was 175 for a 1/2" sling. Apparently they grow glacially slow.

I'd recommend a Hapalopus sp Colombia. They grow pretty quickly for being dwarf species and are relatively docile in my experience, plus super awesome looking. Cyriocosmus Elegans wouldn't be a terrible choice either.

Keep in mind, many of the more species more commonly recommended to beginners do grow glacially slow. If you get many of the grammastolas or aphonopelmas, it could potentially be less than 2 inches after 2 years.
 

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I don’t kill tarantulas. It’s just not my thing. Often times I can’t really pronounce certain Ts. Correct so I try to remember what they are. Which was why I said what I said. But thank you. For correcting me. On the matter besides I don’t mind certain tarantulas as slings. Because I’d love the experience of actually watching them grow despite it to become years for their full adult coloration other than that I am perfectly fine with them being 1/8 slings. It wouldn’t bother me. But hearing you say that people kill them? That’s just plain wrong. Ps you have extremely beautiful babies. And I just love their colorations.
Not kill them on purpose, by accident due to their size. It is harder to care for a tiny sling than a full size adult for any species.

H sp Columbia Large - is a GREAT species to own if you can deal with fast and flicky Ts. Primarily because of their fast/strong feeding response as a sling. They will tackle prey many times their size! They are also pretty fast growing too.
 

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But can I get your thoughts on which ones are the best for beginner hobbyists like myself?
Homoeomma chilensis and Neischnocolus sp. "Panama" are the easiest for a newbie to deal with as they buck the trend of dwarf species being fast/skittish/bolty.


 
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