Have you peacefully protested yet?

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ThomasH

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http://www.pethobbyist.com/sitenews...ed-my-mice,-now-they-want-my-cows-too....html
This is serious for almost all pet owners. Remember to be nice! Flaming, disrespect and bad language will only do harm to our hobbies.
Things to bring up:
1. The economy. That remains a top issue in America. Mention all the thousands of people that will lose their jobs if this becomes a law.
2. The fact that the herp species left in the everglades won't be able to survive any where else in America. Mention that the pets left there was due to a hurricane that went through Florida. Not just pet owners discarding them due to boredrum or not being able to provide a large enough enclosure.
3. The fact that captive reptile diseases have NEVER effected wild populations in America.
If anyone wants to add more issues, post a better link or elaborate on the issues I listed. Feel free and thank you. Remember: don't rely on other people to protect our hobby. Stand up for yourself and e-mail the officials making the bill.
 

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They'll pass this, just like they passed the assault weapon ban. Those educated on the subject know how dumb laws like this are, but everyone else couldn't care less.

Notice the political party of everyone pushing for this bill:

H.R. 6311 - Nonnative Wildlife Invasion Prevention Act
Del. Madeleine Bordallo [D-GU]
Co-Sponsors
Rep. Neil Abercrombie [D-HI]
Rep. Alcee Hastings [D-FL]
Rep. Dale Kildee [D-MI]
Rep. Ronald Kind [D-WI]
Rep. Ron Klein [D-FL]
Rep. Betty McCollum [D-MN]

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Extreme gun types always talk about marching on Washington with their rifles....Maybe it's time for pet owners to march on Washington with their exotic pets? Giant snakes, spiders, exotic cats, etc.....It would make good news!
 
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i somehow doubt a bill like this could be passed, and even if it was how could it be enforced?
 

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http://www.pethobbyist.com/sitenews...ed-my-mice,-now-they-want-my-cows-too....html
This is serious for almost all pet owners. Remember to be nice! Flaming, disrespect and bad language will only do harm to our hobbies.
Things to bring up:
1. The economy. That remains a top issue in America. Mention all the thousands of people that will lose their jobs if this becomes a law.
2. The fact that the herp species left in the everglades won't be able to survive any where else in America. Mention that the pets left there was due to a hurricane that went through Florida. Not just pet owners discarding them due to boredrum or not being able to provide a large enough enclosure.
3. The fact that captive reptile diseases have NEVER effected wild populations in America.
If anyone wants to add more issues, post a better link or elaborate on the issues I listed. Feel free and thank you. Remember: don't rely on other people to protect our hobby. Stand up for yourself and e-mail the officials making the bill.
my protests are not really that peaceful so i try not to protest...pretty funny coming from a protestant huh lol
 

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They'll pass this, just like they passed the assault weapon ban. Those educated on the subject know how dumb laws like this are, but everyone else couldn't care less.

Notice the political party of everyone pushing for this bill:

H.R. 6311 - Nonnative Wildlife Invasion Prevention Act
Del. Madeleine Bordallo [D-GU]
Co-Sponsors
Rep. Neil Abercrombie [D-HI]
Rep. Alcee Hastings [D-FL]
Rep. Dale Kildee [D-MI]
Rep. Ronald Kind [D-WI]
Rep. Ron Klein [D-FL]
Rep. Betty McCollum [D-MN]

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Extreme gun types always talk about marching on Washington with their rifles....Maybe it's time for pet owners to march on Washington with their exotic pets? Giant snakes, spiders, exotic cats, etc.....It would make good news!
D for DUMMY
isnt it funny how Democrat is so close to hypocrite? Most of the big ones seem to want rules for everyone else but not themselves. Like lets make everyone go green while I use enough energy in my house to power a small city ... Thanks Algore(pronounced like Igor)
 

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Funny how a country with economy as a top issue could even think of making a law like this. Remember because of the governments stupidity we lose rights every day. We however can easily pummle them with facts.
 

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Bump!
Does anyone but me realize the seriousness of this? Act now to prevent this!
 

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It doesn't sound bad in theory. But with government bureacracy and red tape...this will pretty much grind all pet hobbies and similar to a halt.
 

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this is pretty much impossible to enforce isn't it? i find it hard to imagine the government searching our homes for our bugs
 

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Boa, I think they're just trying to prevent even more unfortunate feral species from becoming domesticated. God knows it's a fate worse than death. You should be thanking them, not fighting them.

*drip, drip*
 

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D (they) want rules for everyone else but not themselves. Like lets make everyone go green while I use enough energy in my house to power a small city ... Thanks Algore(pronounced like Igor)
It IS crazy! "I got mine!, NOOOOW I can take it away from everybody else since I have all I'll ever want...." It's really hard to get these people on radio or TV for a debate because they want to hide from the "true" ammo the other guy is going to shoot at them. I worked for gov for almost 15 years. I feel like I understand how it can become a monster. It needs to shrink but when is the last time the gov decided to do that in a way that made a big difference.... I remember a show several years ago where somebody interviewed a fed gov employee that was getting paid $60,000 to only study the flow of ketchup. He had a ketchup flow tester, was very serious and demonstrated how it worked. The media guy was making fun of him but he was so serious that he didn't catch on. But, it's also entertaining to watch the wheels turn and see where it goes.
 

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this is pretty much impossible to enforce isn't it? i find it hard to imagine the government searching our homes for our bugs
Nope. This isn't about not being able to own them its about not being available for export through the states or other countries. Look at how many animals are shipped. They could stop all that just by informing postal and parcel services. This is serious. I don't see why everyone is joking about it, they must not care about the hobby.
 

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This is the most rediculous thing I've heard. I hate to think of all the snakes, tarantulas, frogs, etc. that will be destroyed if this bill passes.
Even in California where you can't have most of the exotic pets other states can, they did research and at least can justify why certain species aren't allowed (whether I agree with it or not) and don't just ban everthing non native. :mad:
 

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This is the most rediculous thing I've heard. I hate to think of all the snakes, tarantulas, frogs, etc. that will be destroyed if this bill passes.
Even in California where you can't have most of the exotic pets other states can, they did research and at least can justify why certain species aren't allowed (whether I agree with it or not) and don't just ban everthing non native. :mad:
Thanks, but I don't need the convincing. E-mail the politicians in the making of this ban.
 

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Leave it to democrats to conjure up more means of wasting peoples time and money. Democrats are always taking things away for absurd reasons. Luckily, I don't think this new one will manifest.
 

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What exactly do they mean as a "threat" to us? Disease, aggressiveness/venom, or being able to survive and reproduce here if they escape?

Half those animals wont populate if they escaped, only in a few areas in the U.S. like Florida or Texas do most invasive species thrive.

If they try to ban cats which are pretty close to one of the most popular owned pets (cause I didnt see dogs listed for this) I cant even imagine it being possible.

I think stopping the importing of non-native species to pet stores or making them available to sell could happen, but taking away ones already here will never happen.

What animal do you buy at a pet store usually that IS native to your area, basically none.
 
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What exactly do they mean as a "threat" to us? Disease, aggressiveness/venom, or being able to survive and reproduce here if they escape?

Half those animals wont populate if they escaped, only in a few areas in the U.S. like Florida or Texas do most invasive species thrive.

If they try to ban cats which are pretty close to one of the most popular owned pets (cause I didnt see dogs listed for this) I cant even imagine it being possible.

I think stopping the importing of non-native species to pet stores or making them available to sell could happen, but taking away ones already here will never happen.

What animal do you buy at a pet store usually that IS native to your area, basically none.
This is not what this regulation is about.

They plan on dividing species between good and bad lists.
Problem. Do you think the USFWS/USDA have the time and funding to do this in a timely and effective manner? Not after all the funding cuts! Actually, even if they did have the funding...I am still a bit worried what they would do with this law....
 

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Problem. Do you think the USFWS/USDA have the time and funding to do this in a timely and effective manner? Not after all the funding cuts! Actually, even if they did have the funding...I am still a bit worried what they would do with this law....
Right, it will be a SNAFU as usual.
 
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