Handling tarantulas

[EnigmaNyx]

Look man, maybe I should've worded it different. But they don't feel the same way we do, and people like to impose their own feelings on creatures that were designed so different they are almost alien.

Even then, it still breathes and eats, has a living cycle. Just because it’s different doesn’t make it alien. You could end it’s life just the same as ending any other living breathing creatures life. Tying into the original point, why put your living, breathing pet at risk of dying for the selfish purpose of getting a tickle on your arm? If that’s all you’re looking for just stroll on down to your local LGBT club.

 

[hestoncv]

This is what I was talking about. I asked a simple question, and got a satisfactory answer, but it was emotional and rude. "Selfish". All im saying is i was genuinely looking for opinions and reasons, because I didn't know and have had 0 experience. But it turned into more solely because I did not understand the emotion. As for the person that compared a spider to a human child. I worry about your children actually. My daughter is well taken care of. Regardless, despite what it may seem like I do appreciate the replies and respect everyone opinion because you have vastly more experience than me. I only said they were "just a bug" because to me it was over reacting. I also said the laptop thing because I was saying they are very instinctual and not much more. I am very passionate about these animals and didn't mean to seem otherwise, you should ask my wife, its all I talk about.

 

[Matt Man]

People are going to do what they are going to do. Other people are going to judge them for what they choose to do. You can mitigate the risks but it is never 100% safe for either you or the T. So risk is there, so then there is risk / reward calculations. Those come out differently for different people. People who have been here a long time get tired of hearing death reports when they were avoidable with a different risk/ reward calculation by being a bit more risk averse. People get mad here because they really care for these creatures and don't want them dying needlessly. It's a free world, and it is your investment, but it is a living thing. Make your decisions wisely. For me, I don't judge, it's part of my therapy

 

[EnigmaNyx]

I only started arguing when people were hostile

People disagreeing with you is not being hostile, and people using different font styling isn’t being hostile. You are asking and stating the same things repeatedly, with multiple people giving you the same answers repeatedly.

You just sound like every other person that swings by to make an account to ask about holding. Chances are, if you’re like them, you’ll get buttchapped and never post another thread. Then a few months down the road we’ll see you posting on tarantulaforums.

 

[hestoncv]

And I agree,

People are going to do what they are going to do. Other people are going to judge them for what they choose to do. You can mitigate the risks but it is never 100% safe for either you or the T. So risk is there, so then there is risk / reward calculations. Those come out differently for different people. People who have been here a long time get tired of hearing death reports when they were avoidable with a different risk/ reward calculation by being a bit more risk averse. People get mad here because they really care for these creatures and don't want them dying needlessly. It's a free world, and it is your investment, but it is a living thing. Make your decisions wisely. For me, I don't judge, it's part of my therapy

Thats the reply I wanted. Thank you. As I said i don't plan on holding them, frankly I hate needles and fangs seem quite similar, as you said not worth the risk for it or me.

People disagreeing with you is not being hostile, and people using different font styling isn’t being hostile. You are asking and stating the same things repeatedly, with multiple people giving you the same answers repeatedly.

You just sound like every other person that swings by to make an account to ask about holding. Chances are, if you’re like them, you’ll get buttchapped and never post another thread. Then a few months down the road we’ll see you posting on tarantulaforums.

I don't mind people disagreeing. It was just the verbiage used that seemed rude. Regardless, like I said i actually do appreciate your replies, despite what it make look like. I got the info I needed, just got further than it needed to lol

People disagreeing with you is not being hostile, and people using different font styling isn’t being hostile. You are asking and stating the same things repeatedly, with multiple people giving you the same answers repeatedly.

You just sound like every other person that swings by to make an account to ask about holding. Chances are, if you’re like them, you’ll get buttchapped and never post another thread. Then a few months down the road we’ll see you posting on tarantulaforums.

Also I plan on sticking around as long as everyone else isn't "buttchapped" by my thread, and still plans on engaging in my posts in the future

 

[EnigmaNyx]

Also I plan on sticking around as long as everyone else isn't "buttchapped" by my thread, and still plans on engaging in my posts in the future

No chaps here, I enjoy the turmoil. I look forward to your reports

 

[hestoncv]

Like I said though. I don't disagree with everyone's reasons, I disagreed with how things are said. I also don't dislike anyone in here over a simple topic, lmao even though they may dislike me.

 

[Matt Man]

My daughter and I occasionally work Exotic shows. We have had to rehouse or show various inverts from time to time for sales or educational purposes. My daughter had an adult T albopilosus run up her hand and onto her head during a routine rehouse and because I was spotting, and we are experienced, no harm came. People were shocked that she remained dead calm during the entire process and we used it as an example of "What can go wrong and how to deal with it". New owners can be shocked by how fast they move and if they react, that's where the danger is, as others have stated.

 

[DomGom TheFather]

There are two types of keepers when it comes to handling.
One eventually asks about cornstarch. You'll figure it out.
I hope you don't but it's up to you.
Good luck.

 

[HeartBum]

There are two types of keepers when it comes to handling.
One eventually Asks about cornstarch. You'll figure it out.
Good luck.
I hope you don't but it's up to you.

... Lockdown baking, right?

 

[basin79]

This is what I was talking about. I asked a simple question, and got a satisfactory answer, but it was emotional and rude. "Selfish". All im saying is i was genuinely looking for opinions and reasons, because I didn't know and have had 0 experience. But it turned into more solely because I did not understand the emotion. As for the person that compared a spider to a human child. I worry about your children actually. My daughter is well taken care of. Regardless, despite what it may seem like I do appreciate the replies and respect everyone opinion because you have vastly more experience than me. I only said they were "just a bug" because to me it was over reacting. I also said the laptop thing because I was saying they are very instinctual and not much more. I am very passionate about these animals and didn't mean to seem otherwise, you should ask my wife, its all I talk about.

I gave a hypothetical answer to your question.

And you find it rude? That's on you not me.

 

[hestoncv]

My daughter and I occasionally work Exotic shows. We have had to rehouse or show various inverts from time to time for sales or educational purposes. My daughter had an adult T albopilosus run up her hand and onto her head during a routine rehouse and because I was spotting, and we are experienced, no harm came. People were shocked that she remained dead calm during the entire process and we used it as an example of "What can go wrong and how to deal with it". New owners can be shocked by how fast they move and if they react, that's where the danger is, as others have stated.

I like your example. Thanks. I said the same thing, I figured experience would make it safer

I gave a hypothetical answer to your question.

And you find it rude? That's on you not me.

Implying i am selfish for just asking about it is rude no matter what culture you're apart of. Either way, I don't have any hard feelings about it, and I appreciate the time you took to reply.

 

[HeartBum]

I like your example. Thanks. I said the same thing, I figured experience would make it safer

This was an accidental handling, not a deliberate attempt just to have it on you.

 

[hestoncv]

There are two types of keepers when it comes to handling.
One eventually asks about cornstarch. You'll figure it out.
I hope you don't but it's up to you.
Good luck.

Like I've said I plan on getting a versicolor and as you can see from my enclosure in another post its not set up to make it easy to get him out. I won't hold him unless necessary

 

[basin79]

Staying calm if a tarantula runs up your arm is 1 thing.

But staying calm mean zero if the tarantula runs OFF you arm. Experience doesn't alter gravity. And there's nothing stopping the tarantula from running off your arm.

 

[hestoncv]

This was an accidental handling, not a deliberate attempt just to have it on you.

That wasn't accidental. Regardless, it was started that you can't help flinching. Obviously if a little girl can then so can a grown man. Besides the point though, <edit> happens even if you're super experienced and I agree with that.

Staying calm if a tarantula runs up your arm is 1 thing.

But staying calm mean zero if the tarantula runs OFF you arm. Experience doesn't alter gravity. And there's nothing stopping the tarantula from running off your arm.

I agree. These aren't risks I'm willing to take. Just don't know the behaviors of tarantulas and couldn't think of reasons why it was bad, that's why the post was created in the first place.

 

[basin79]

Implying i am selfish for just asking about it is rude no matter what culture you're apart of. Either way, I don't have any hard feelings about it, and I appreciate the time you took to reply.

I NEVER implied you were selfish for asking. I put wanting to handle is a selfish act. And it is.

I agree. These aren't risks I'm willing to take. Just don't know the behaviors of tarantulas and couldn't think of reasons why it was bad, that's why the post was created in the first place.

No one knows the behaviour of tarantulas. They're living creatures and change upon their interpretation of the world around them.

 

[hestoncv]

No one knows the behaviour of tarantulas. They're living creatures and change upon their interpretation of the world around them.

Yeah I agree. I didn't realize even being close to the ground would be bad because of their unpredictability. That's why I asked what I asked, I was ignorant and curious and it turned into more because I was defensive. Sorry about that. Truce

 

[Matt Man]

well it wasn't an intentional handle. Customer had bought a T and also a complete enclosure and asked if we'd rehouse, which we do / did. The T, instead of going from sales-container to enclosure in a normal fashion did a 180 and did a jail break up my daughter's arm.
Yes, it could have jumped or fell, but I was spotting and unless it did a pokie style 'transporter' I had a high % chance of catching it (as I was spotting with a tub). My daughter was 16, and is 5'8" so 'little girl' wouldn't fit but she's been keeping Ts for a decade

 

[basin79]

Yeah I agree. I didn't realize even being close to the ground would be bad because of their unpredictability. That's why I asked what I asked, I was ignorant and curious and it turned into more because I was defensive. Sorry about that. Truce

I'm not "at war".

This place is a ridiculous resource. And I mean ridiculous.