Handling tarantulas

[hestoncv]

Spotted the tarantula handler. A true wolf in sheep’s clothing.

I plan on getting a versicolor and never plan to hold it

 

[basin79]

What makes them any different from the roaches you feed them? All I'm saying is creatures at this level are basically robots, so ethically I don't think its much different. Although I obviously care greatly for my soon to be tarantula, with all the research and time I've taken with the enclosure, but I don't look down upon people who take risk with a bug. Just my opinion. you think they are different from a roach? The only difference is you think they are cooler.

This place had seen this post before. Many times.

"I don't plan to handle but what do you think........"

A few weeks later you get the follow up. "Help, I was just holding my tarantula and........."

And then the classic "what's the difference between a tarantula and livefood" point to make YOU feel better.

For me it's clear as day you ABSOLUTELY DO plan to handle a tarantula. Those that don't want to DON'T make threads about it.

 

[hestoncv]

My feeders still have a good quality of life before they're eaten... It doesn't sound like a T is right for you tbh if this is the mindset you're already in.

Check out my other posts. I've taken good care to ensure the enclosure will be correct and the tarantula will be comfortable. This is what I meant though "this hobby is not for you if you hold your tarantula" is basically the response when you get down to it. I don't understand why people treat it like its dog fighting.

 

[basin79]

Check out my other posts. I've taken good care to ensure the enclosure will be correct and the tarantula will be comfortable. This is what I meant though "this hobby is not for you if you hold your tarantula" is basically the response when you get down to it. I don't understand why people treat it like its dog fighting.

Why not just be honest at least? Why would you state you don't plan to handle but then make excuses to handle.

Do you honestly think you've "hood winked" us? Do you honestly believe you're the first to peddle this crap here?

 

[HeartBum]

Check out my other posts. I've taken good care to ensure the enclosure will be correct and the tarantula will be comfortable. This is what I meant though "this hobby is not for you if you hold your tarantula" is basically the response when you get down to it. I don't understand why people treat it like its dog fighting.

Because you're putting it and yourself at unnecessary risk. Feeders are fed up and live a good life before following the cycle of the food chain. Ts don't have stupid humans picking them up and dropping them on the floor in the wild. I didn't say the hobby isn't for you if you decide to handle - I said the hobby isn't for you if you're thinking along the lines of "it's just a bug".

 

[hestoncv]

This place had seen this post before. Many times.

"I don't plan to handle but what do you think........"

A few weeks later you get the follow up. "Help, I was just holding my tarantula and........."

And then the classic "what's the difference between a tarantula and livefood" point to make YOU feel better.

For me it's clear as day you ABSOLUTELY DO plan to handle a tarantula. Those that don't want to DON'T make threads about it.

No I just saw a post with an owner and their mexican red knee and they mentioned they handled it, and someone mentioned they disagreed. So, being new to the hobby, I wanted to know why people were so against it. I am getting a versicolor and definitely don't care about handling it. My enclosure is also set up where getting it out would be difficult, not something I'm interested in, feeding and webbing is the coolest part of the hobby to me.

 

[Poonjab]

Check out my other posts. I've taken good care to ensure the enclosure will be correct and the tarantula will be comfortable. This is what I meant though "this hobby is not for you if you hold your tarantula" is basically the response when you get down to it. I don't understand why people treat it like its dog fighting.

You’re correct. This hobby is not for you if you hold your T’s. The above statements given in this thread and multiple other T handling threads are the reasons why. Avoidable accidents. What part of this is not sinking in for you?

 

[hestoncv]

Why not just be honest at least? Why would you state you don't plan to handle but then make excuses to handle.

Do you honestly think you've "hood winked" us? Do you honestly believe you're the first to peddle this crap here?

Look bud, this was my point. You people get emotional about handling a spider. I don't care about your opinion about what I do with my pet. I would tell you flat out, " I want to handle it and here's why". I don't plan on ever meeting you in person, I'm not afraid to tell you. I was genuinely curious

 

[basin79]

OP this is your post but a different subject.

OP: I'll never smoke but what do you think?

A: Smoking causing cancer not.worth it.

OP: You can get cancer from all sorts.

A: But better to not add the risk.

OP: But it's my body so I can do what I want.

A: I thought you said you didn't want to smoke?

OP: Errrrrrr yeah I don't. Have you got a lighter?

 

[hestoncv]

You’re correct. This hobby is not for you if you hold your T’s. The above statements given in this thread and multiple other T handling threads are the reasons why. Avoidable accidents. What part of this is not sinking in for you?

I just don't get the emotion behind it. That's all

 

[Poonjab]

I don't care about your opinion

Then why come here asking questions that will have opinions attached the first place? Everyone has been pretty chill with you. You however are getting butthurt you’re not receiving the answers you want.

 

[HeartBum]

I just don't get the emotion behind it. That's all

People are passionate about their T's wellbeing like people are of other pets. My mum's cried over her fish before ffs, it's the same thing. You need to be emotional about something in order to be passionate about it, and if there's no passion there, the T will be the only one to suffer when you inevitably get bored.

 

[EnigmaNyx]

I just don't get the emotion behind it. That's all

Emotions aside, what everyone has been saying in this post is by holding the T you put both yourself and the T at risk. That is what we’re trying to get across. Unnecessary risk.

If you equate a T to a laptop, you should first work out your priorities and values in life, and once you’ve done that decide if you would like to take on caring for a living thing.

“If I drop my baby human, it’s no different than my laptop. I don’t get the emotion behind it.” I pray if you decide to reproduce that you have changed your view on living things.

 

[basin79]

I just don't get the emotion behind it. That's all

Aye. Weird isn't it? A tremendous forum pretty much dedicated to the care of tarantulas and the members get all arsey when dispite all the warnings and dangers to the tarantulas selfish owners choose to do it anyway.

And the same members who pleaded with the owners not to handle the tarantulas are then asked for help and presented with pics of dying tarantulas that have fell after being handled.

 

[hestoncv]

OP this is your post but a different subject.

OP: I'll never smoke but what do you think?

A: Smoking causing cancer not.worth it.

OP: You can get cancer from all sorts.

A: But better to not add the risk.

OP: But it's my body so I can do what I want.

A: I thought you said you didn't want to smoke?

OP: Errrrrrr yeah I don't. Have you got a lighter?

No I get why you would think that, but I wanted to get both sides. I totally agree uneeded risk should not be taken, I totally agree they are a creature that should be treated ethically and with care. And i also agree true hobbyists won't be handling all the time. What I don't agree with is the gate keeping and emotion behind it. I brought up the bug point not to poke at people or offend, but that everyone is acting like people who handle are stomping kittens, when its not the same. They want to take the risk and as long as they aren't standing with it and they have had enough experience not to spaz if it runs then I'm okay with it.

 

[HeartBum]

No I get why you would think that, but I wanted to get both sides. I totally agree uneeded risk should not be taken, I totally agree they are a creature that should be treated ethically and with care. And i also agree true hobbyists won't be handling all the time. What I don't agree with is the gate keeping and emotion behind it. I brought up the bug point not to poke at people or offend, but that everyone is acting like people who handle are stomping kittens, when its not the same. They want to take the risk and as long as they aren't standing with it and they have had enough experience not to spaz if it runs then I'm okay with it.

Experience doesn't mean squat. Instinct kicks in, both for the T and the handler. Knee-jerk reactions can and will happen to the most "experienced" of keepers.

 

[hestoncv]

Emotions aside, what everyone has been saying in this post is by holding the T you put both yourself and the T at risk. That is what we’re trying to get across. Unnecessary risk.

If you equate a T to a laptop, you should first work out your priorities and values in life, and once you’ve done that decide if you would like to take on caring for a living thing.

Look man, maybe I should've worded it different. But they don't feel the same way we do, and people like to impose their own feelings on creatures that were designed so different they are almost alien.

 

[Poonjab]

I just don't get the emotion behind it. That's all

Dude, I’m going to make this really simple for you to understand. Many of us here, myself included, are pretty dang passionate about tarantulas. We have seen countless threads of tarantulas dying due to holding, even with proper precautions. We don’t want to see more T’s die when it could be 100% avoided by just not handling your tarantula. I wouldn’t say I’m getting emotional about it, it just gets old.

 

[hestoncv]

Experience doesn't mean squat. Instinct kicks in, both for the T and the handler. Knee-jerk reactions can and will happen to the most "experienced" of keepers.

And see that's why I asked. I've never handled a spider, I don't know how reactions work. I only started arguing when people were hostile

Then why come here asking questions that will have opinions attached the first place? Everyone has been pretty chill with you. You however are getting butthurt you’re not receiving the answers you want.

That's taken out of context, good job

 

[HeartBum]

Don't have any pets if you aren't willing to accept that just because they "might not feel pain in the same way we do" doesn't make them any less of a living thing. Hell, Ts have venom so their prey doesn't suffer when it's being eaten. Seems like they do have more feeling than you, "bud".