Guess that spider Pt. 2

l4nsky

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Ah dang, I passed over Akcaya and Sumatran as guesses. I got thrown off because the cork bark got me thinking it was semi-arboreal but the pattern got me thinking fossorial earth tigers
The line between fossorial and arboreal for some Asian species is a very gray area in captivity lol. IMO, the best way to differ the truly fossorial species from the more adaptable species that are found in the trees in situ is the size of the scopula pads at the end of the legs and the build of the legs.

Long, thin legs with wide pads at the end are the hallmark of the more arboreal species like this:
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Whereas short and stout legs with smaller scopula pads tends to indicate those of a fossorial nature:
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The line between fossorial and arboreal for some Asian species is a very gray area in captivity lol. IMO, the best way to differ the truly fossorial species from the more adaptable species that are found in the trees in situ is the size of the scopula pads at the end of the legs and the build of the legs.

Long, thin legs with wide pads at the end are the hallmark of the more arboreal species like this:
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Whereas short and stout legs with smaller scopula pads tends to indicate those of a fossorial nature:
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Why are your spiders always so mad at you? 😂😆😂
 

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Why are your spiders always so mad at you? 😂😆😂
Oh just wait..... You're going to have your own share of angry spiders as they age lol. Plus, I try not to bother my adults to get photos of them hence most of my photos of them are during rehouses, and well, they're never in the best of moods then :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: .
 

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Thanks for the explanation. I did notice the difference in anatomy amongst the tarantula species. When it comes to thick fossorial I imagine a chonky Citharognathus tongmianensis.

I do get lost in the differences between the terrestrial and fossorial species though. Certain terrestrial species look more like arboreals while others still are as thick as the thickest fossorials
 

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Thanks for the explanation. I did notice the difference in anatomy amongst the tarantula species. When it comes to thick fossorial I imagine a chonky Citharognathus tongmianensis.

I do get lost in the differences between the terrestrial and fossorial species though. Certain terrestrial species look more like arboreals while others still are as thick as the thickest fossorials
You win! It is a juvenile Citharognathus tongmianensis 😆:
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Those rear legs are starting to fatten up, it's right at 3" DLS.

Anyways, your turn. Post a pic or nominate someone.
 

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Sure, I'll start off the guessing.
Avicularia avicularia? Do we need to figure out a morphotype too 😂?
 

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No, it isn't a M# type Avic. I wouldn't do that to you.

Hint: this Avic retains its patterning when an adult.
 

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Flash on.

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Flash off.
 
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Lol no one even has a guess? This is a polychromatic species and can display a host of colors depending on the lighting and angle viewed. Here's a different specimen, but same species, viewed from a different angle and lighting.
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Lol no one even has a guess? This is a polychromatic species and can display a host of colors depending on the lighting and angle viewed. Here's a different specimen, but same species, viewed from a different angle and lighting.
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I'd like to give someone else a chance. Is the first one of this species that you posted an adult?
 

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I'd like to give someone else a chance. Is the first one of this species that you posted an adult?
No, it's a 1.0 two molts from ultimate, but the 0.1 (which is the last picture) looks the same when viewed dorsally with a bright flash.
Here's another of the 0.1, but this time from yet another angle and lighting setup.
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No, it's a 1.0 two molts from ultimate, but the 0.1 (which is the last picture) looks the same when viewed dorsally with a bright flash.
Here's another of the 0.1, but this time from yet another angle and lighting setup.
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That's cool. So what do you think is adult size for these - 5" DLS?
 

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Lol no one even has a guess? This is a polychromatic species and can display a host of colors depending on the lighting and angle viewed. Here's a different specimen, but same species, viewed from a different angle and lighting.
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I have no idea so I'm letting someone else take a guess. Might be able to narrow it down once some hits go off. 😆
 
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