For THE T. OWNER THAT HAS EVERYTHING !

[Quixtar]

I know what an eel is I'm just wondering why you bought one and I'm also a bit curious to what kind

I'd spend $200 on a nice moray, if that's what he got. They're easily worth much more.

 

[cheetah13mo]

if someone with the "hey easy money" attitude sees this sp. going for those prices this species will soon be extinct due to over collection for profit. look at what almost happened to buffalos for example they almost got wiped off the planet due to the price the fur sold for and now over 100 years later there population is just starting to pick back up

Read my reply below. This spider will never command price tag of 800 dollars. It is very common in the wild plus, a few good breedings will have it established in the hobby so wild caught would not be needed and noone would waste the time. The American buffalo was not a good example as no hobbiest has any use for any part of a dead T's body. This fact is significant since the hobbiest is in the drivers seat.

The T in question is common in the wild but very rare in the hobby, here in the U.S. and overseas. My understanding is that these were meant to be distributed for breeding to get them into the hobby. Not sold for profit. These slings came from an egg sack in Europe that was from a wild caught specimen. The few slings there were got despersed for the intention of breeding and getting the numbers up in the hobby. If these slings were not meant to be sold for profit by anyone involved then I don't think they should have been on a for sale list.

 

[codykrr]

i understand your reply about them being common in the wild and the buffulo is a good example imo because there were hundreds of thousands of them at one time. but due to human ignorance we hunted them for there value to near extinction. my comparison of the buffalo to this t is mearly saying that at those prices im sure they too could be a target for over collecting. which can lead to there wild population to dwindle or thier habitat could be destroyed. thats what i was trying to say. and also people do use dead ts ive seen them being preserved in rosin for paper weights, and magnets. im not trying to start another heated debate just want to voice my opinion.i just want this sp. of t to make it in the wild and in the hobby along with any other animal subceptable to the profitears of the pet trade

 

[reptist]

800.00

I dont know if any of you guys caught it when I said it earlier but when I put the 799.00 price on this spider I didnt expect anyone would pay it I realy didnt want to sell them at all, I dont think it is worth that much at all and for everyone who reads this "I would never pay that for these slings and think your nuts if you do" however if anyone agrees to the price then I will ship them out tomorrow!!! heck if its within Arizona and its neigboring states I may even drive it to them tonight if they wanted, I am in no way trying to set any kind of market value for them, I just picked an outrageous price that I thought would more than likely not be paid for them and intended to grow them myself , if they reached maturity and I still had them I would breed them, I only recieved 2 of them and paid over 300 USD a peice for these slings plus had 1500.00 in import related fees to pay to get them here, and now some are saying that they are saposedly as common and plentifull in the wild as raiondrops in a downpour, well I dont see them on any other lists anywhere even if you had and wanted to spend 800.00 you would have a hard time finding one of these slings from anyone but me in this country and maybe even europe plain and simply they are my slings and what I choose to sell them for is my decision alone, if you dont like the price dont buy it. or if you prefer start/or participate a 60+ reply thread about the worthlesness of the spider in question, complete w/ any inuendoes of how inapropriate it is for a seller to put whatever their chosen price is on an animal they bought, paid for and own, seems pretty nit-picky IMO, and alot of drama for what is saposed to be a hobby.

I priced these slings high cause I wasnt that intrested in selling them, I paid alot for them and there are only 6 in the country, look at the rest of my list or any of my old lists I am not in the habbit of selling overpriced, trumped up , new or cutting edge spiders, every once in a while I get some high end stuff and always offer it at market price, and more commonly even less, my service is solid and reliable, I generaly include some pretty out of the ordinary freebies in every order, have a fair bit of knowledge of market values on most spiders and price my stock at these or below, Im not trying to milk the spider community dry w/ my 2- 800.00 a peice slings, I do agree w/ codykrr on one point though, this thread should be deleated as the only realy worthwhile info has been that posted about the freakin eel, PEACE All, B.

 

[Protectyaaaneck]

hey reptist, my p. metallica molted today, the rufilata just flipped over onto its back and the subfusca looks like its due for a molt any time. again thanks for the T's. They are jewels in my collection for sure.

 

[reptist]

Sweet!!

Sweet, gotta love molt day for your metallica, they are a truely unreal species, and the subfusca is right up there as well as the ruffie, glad they are doing good and congrats on the sucessfull molts so far, they make it all worth it for sure, PEACE, B.

 

[Drachenjager]

A. anax female 800.00

Yeah, my female anax would cost 800 bucks for me to let her go. I don't want to sell her. In fact for all practical purposes she is not for sale. HOWEVER, for the small sum of 800.00 USA In silver or gold coin would be accepted.
NOW that's silver or gold face value mind you. SO 800 silver dollars. or 16 $50.00 gold coins.

Of course, i admit I would never post her on a list for that lol

There are a few Ts i may would pay a large sum for. and even at 800 bucks sometimes that's what ya pay.

Any thing there is is worth what the seller is willing to take for it and what the buyer is willing to pay. IF it would take 800 for me to sell my anax she is worth that. If you are only willing to pay 20 then that's all she is worth...but you wont get her lol

 

[bliss]

well in my opinion this thread should just be deleted it makes both parties look bad but 800 for a sling is uncommon so is the T in question so personally i wouldnt sell it so i could make it more avalible in the hobby so prices wouldnt be so much. also if someone with the "hey easy money" attitude sees this sp. going for those prices this species will soon be extinct due to over collection for profit. look at what almost happened to buffalos for example they almost got wiped off the planet due to the price the fur sold for and now over 100 years later there population is just starting to pick back up


the following is my entire opinion but i hope something is gained from it

if you are concerned about plucking Wild Caught specimens out of the wild, i suggest you direct your attention AWAY from this asian species of tarantula.... and start buying hundreds of breeding pairs of G rosea. do some research on rosea, you'll find out what i mean....

 

[Drachenjager]

i understand your reply about them being common in the wild and the buffulo is a good example imo because there were hundreds of thousands of them at one time. but due to human ignorance we hunted them for there value to near extinction. my comparison of the buffalo to this t is mearly saying that at those prices im sure they too could be a target for over collecting. which can lead to there wild population to dwindle or thier habitat could be destroyed. thats what i was trying to say. and also people do use dead ts ive seen them being preserved in rosin for paper weights, and magnets. im not trying to start another heated debate just want to voice my opinion.i just want this sp. of t to make it in the wild and in the hobby along with any other animal subceptable to the profitears of the pet trade

DUE to human ignorance and the desire for the white man to defeat the indigenous humans of the USA they were wiped out to make the natives hungry . NOT FOR THEIR FUR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WAS AN ACT OF WAR

 

[GartenSpinnen]

So what do you all think of same sex marriage, abortion, religion vs evolution, gun laws, and keeping tarantulas on wood chips??? Just curious?

 

[reptist]

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap::clap:

 

[Steven Valys]

So what do you all think of same sex marriage, abortion, religion vs evolution, gun laws, and keeping tarantulas on wood chips??? Just curious?

1) not my cup of tea
2) I don't have a uterus, can't call that coin toss
3) who says religion doesn't teach evolution, and religion doesn't evolve to meet the times.
4) I like my guns
5) what kind of wood chips are we speaking of, shredded aspen?

 

[bliss]

So what do you all think of same sex marriage, abortion, religion vs evolution, gun laws, and keeping tarantulas on wood chips??? Just curious?

waaaayyy...

:razz:

 

[calum]

Ok, it is a very nice tarantula, but to be honest I have seen prettier species.


and no matter how rare a Tarantula is I wouldn't pay $800 for one.

 

[Drachenjager]

So what do you all think of same sex marriage, abortion, religion vs evolution, gun laws, and keeping tarantulas on wood chips??? Just curious?

1. I don't think any species of Tarantula should get married, especially same sex ones
2. I don't think any egg sac should be aborted, even G. rosea
3.Evolution is defended religiously so it must be a religion
4.I believe Tarantula gun ownership is protected by the 2nd amendment of the Tarantula Constitution
5. How many wood chips could a tarantula chip if a tarantula could chip wood chips

What does this have to do with the price of Tarantulas in Arizona?
(you know a rip off of the price of tea in china)

 

[fang333999]

i dont even understand why the price of reptists t was even bad mouthed. its HIS business, HIS prices, HIS call. if you dont like it, then dont buy it? sometimes i really dont understand why some people open their mouths. just kind of bothered me people were bitching about the price of this particular t but hey what do i know

 

[bliss]

Ok, it is a very nice tarantula, but to be honest I have seen prettier species.


and no matter how rare a Tarantula is I wouldn't pay $800 for one.

i tend to agree with you

there are only a few things i want to say in this thread:

1. "the spider isn't that attractive" -- i say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. i think certain members of the grammostola genus, such as inheringi, mollicoma, and pulchra) look better than any other t's i've ever seen. even better than P metallica and/or M balfouri. but, that's just me.

2. "800$ is a rip off!" -- there's no denying the fact that 800 is a lot of money, but brandon has said that he wants them for future breeding purposes. he wants to keep them for possible breeding, but if someone really is willing to give him 800 a pop, then he'd sell them. and besides, people can sell things for however much they want to. i could sell my CB A. hentzi 2" Female for 150$, because i guarantee you no one would buy it... but if someone was really willing to pay that, then i would indeed sell it to them. i have the intent to keep her, but if someone really is willing, for whatever reason, to give me 150$, then she would become theirs.

3. "i would never pay that much for a T!" -- well, no one is holding a gun to your head. most people really don't have that kind of money anyways. If someone really wanted that species of T bad enough, and had loads and loads of money, then go for it. if that's what you want, then do it. do what makes YOU happy, it doesn't matter what other people think.

i personally wouldn't buy it. 1. asian t's in general have never really been my thing. 2. i don't have 800 to boot. i admit jumping from around 400-500 up to 800 is not a good thing for the buyer, but they are brandon's t's, and he can price them as he pleases.

honestly in my case,
had i enough money to buy two or three of these... i'd just do my own import from another country, probably germany as i have a couple good connections there. (LEGAL import, that is... )

 

[cheetah13mo]

i dont even understand why the price of reptists t was even bad mouthed. its HIS business, HIS prices, HIS call. if you dont like it, then dont buy it? sometimes i really dont understand why some people open their mouths. just kind of bothered me people were bitching about the price of this particular t but hey what do i know

They were pasted out for breeding, not selling. In my mind, it's not so much the outlandish price but simply the fact that these were past out for the purpose of getting them started in the hobby. If anyone wants to pay 800 for this T, go for it. I just hope that that person will know enough to breed it when it's ready and get it established in the hobby.

I get some good species from some of my connections and with the discussions involved, I know that I'm suppose to keep them in my collection for future breeding projects. If I turn around and sell it for whatever price, there goes my connection to get some rare and hard to get T's because at that piont, I cannot be trusted to hang on to and take care of a T when given the chance. Not that I'd have any success at the breeding but everyone involved knows where one is and it can easily get into the right hands to have the best chance of being successful.

The T is in very capable hands right now and I'd like to see this species get established in the U.S. If it gets sold, I think the chances of that goes down drastically and we wait longer for another species to be available. At the same time, Europe will have it established and we get to sit on the sidelines and watch everyone enjoy a new species in the hobby,,,again.

 

[J.huff23]

I hate to be posting in this thread. . .

but i am going to put in my .02

Reptist, i know you are a reputable dealer and think as a neutral voice that it is your right to defend yourself in a personal attack, but i think you went a little past that point and you have a reputation to defend and though you have TONS of great reviews, a public 'dispute' like this does not look well.
i have heard from many people you are a great dealer.

Talkin_late: I agree with how you feel he may be a "rip off" in your opinion. but there is suppy and demand. how many other people do you know that sell the Gandolfs Bridge? and his 799$ is fair considering he was keeping them for breeding, and other expenses.



But what has been said has been said. and hopefully everything can get resolved.

either keep it to PM this little fight does not need to be public.

Franklin

WHY?!?!?!? This thread was almost forgotten untill you bumped it back up again!

 

[Mister Internet]

Well, this one's run its course.

-MrI