First Old World Tarantula

[viper69]

Why so defensive? I am not stupid enough to barge into Bug.net and order an H.Mac as my first T, I was,/am doing information gathering so that I don't jump into something beyond my skill level because I didn't know anything about it.

That being said, thank you for telling me about the Ladder system. It was really useful and I have a better idea of what to do when getting my first T.

@cold blood Thanks for the info, it is amazing how fast these spiders move! I was blown away on YouTube and wanted to know what kind of experience is involved.

I'm not sure why you disliked my post, but that's your choice, life's not a popularity contest.

As for being defensive- which I wasn't by the way, I was merely being direct-- where in my writing helped form that opinion of yours that I was defensive????????

I don't think most interested owners are stupid, ignorant-YES, stupid-NO. I wrote what I did because I originally told you Cerato, and you came back with more OWs, one being quite geared for advanced owners (H. mac). SO to prevent any further "how about this OW" questions, I let it be known my answer will always be Ceratogyrus as a first OW T. I've been saying that for years, and always will, unless something better comes along.

 

[cold blood]

I've been saying that for years, and always will, unless something better comes along.

I present you with something [marginally] better... A. ezendami

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• cold blood
• Mar 8, 2017
• 3

Here's a Ceratogryus for comparison...

so happy

• cold blood
• May 28, 2017
• 5
• ceratogyrus ceratogyrus bechuanicus ceratogyrus darlingi curvedhorn tarantula darlingi threat

I dare you to re house me! I'm staying.

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young female darlingi

hehe

 

[viper69]

I present you with something [marginally] better... A. ezendami

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• cold blood
• Mar 8, 2017
• 3

Here's a Ceratogryus for comparison...

so happy

• cold blood
• May 28, 2017
• 5
• ceratogyrus ceratogyrus bechuanicus ceratogyrus darlingi curvedhorn tarantula darlingi threat

I dare you to re house me! I'm staying.

---

young female darlingi

hehe

Man...You know in disposition a bit better, but in eating for a sling, def. not. I'm not sure I'd give it another go w/ezendami. They make albiceps look like gluttons!

 

[cold blood]

Man...You know in disposition a bit better, but in eating for a sling, def. not. I'm not sure I'd give it another go w/ezendami. They make albiceps look like gluttons!

Once they get over 1.5" they are total beasts......yours has to be that big by now...no?? Its siblings (the few I have left) are positively voracious.

Yeah though, Ceratogryus slings are superior eaters, but later n life, they are equals. Just look at @Trenor 's ezendami...them things never refuse meals.

One of my favorite baboons for sure....just look at that carapace.

 

[viper69]

Mine never made it past sling- the first OW not to make it past sling stage in my care =(
Bummed, because they are gorgeous adults.

 

[viper69]

@cold blood EMPTY your inbox and PM me.

 

[cold blood]

Mine never made it past sling- the first OW not to make it past sling stage in my care =(
Bummed, because they are gorgeous adults.

I didn't know it died....theyre pretty hard to kill...lol...nice work there...hehe

I just had a male mature , so I should be pairing them this fall sometime. I will send you a few more if I get the ts to cooperate again.

 

[Jmanbeing93]

I'm not sure why you disliked my post, but that's your choice, life's not a popularity contest.

As for being defensive- which I wasn't by the way, I was merely being direct-- where in my writing helped form that opinion of yours that I was defensive????????

I don't think most interested owners are stupid, ignorant-YES, stupid-NO. I wrote what I did because I originally told you Cerato, and you came back with more OWs, one being quite geared for advanced owners (H. mac). SO to prevent any further "how about this OW" questions, I let it be known my answer will always be Ceratogyrus as a first OW T. I've been saying that for years, and always will, unless something better comes along.

You misunderstood the intention of my question to begin with, I have no desire to start with an OW as my first T, I know I asked about Poecilotheria first, but I just wanted to know how advanced H.maculata was seeing as I saw a video on them and saw them for sale for ten bucks. I don't know why some advanced OW's are so cheap. Seems a little absurd.

Only the reason why I disliked it was because I thought you were somewhat rude in your response to me. That's all. There's a fine line between being blunt and coming off as rude.

I've owned both, the same advice I gave you earlier. I won't tell you another genus as a first.

This is an example of what I am talking about, since you asked why I thought were you were being defensive. All in all, it was a misunderstanding on both of our parts.

 

[Poec54]

That being said, thank you for telling me about the Ladder system. It was really useful and I have a better idea of what to do when getting my first T.

@cold blood Thanks for the info, it is amazing how fast these spiders move! I was blown away on YouTube and wanted to know what kind of experience is involved.

In spite of being simple-minded invertebrates, they can make us look pretty stupid in the blink of an eye. But then, they've survived for millions of years by using those skills with predators. Don't think that we can walk in with our over-sized human brains and automatically outwit them. There's been way too many escapes and bites to believe that.

 

[Jmanbeing93]

In spite of being simple-minded invertebrates, they can make us look pretty stupid in the blink of an eye. But then, they've survived for millions of years by using those skills with predators. Don't think that we can walk in with our over-sized human brains and automatically outwit them. There's been way too many escapes and bites to believe that.

I agree with you, they are a lot smarter than we give them credit for. I hope that I don't get too complacent with tarantulas.

 

[viper69]

There's a fine line between being blunt and coming off as rude.

It's subjective. I wasn't rude, but you clearly thought I was. That's OK with me.

I don't know why some advanced OW's are so cheap

Many Hot snakes are far cheaper than even normal phase constrictors. Supply/Demand

 

[Chris LXXIX]

I don't know why some advanced OW's are so cheap. Seems a little absurd.

Keep in mind that venom potency, level of defensiveness, the experience level of the hypotetical keeper etc means nothing when price are concerned, aside for probably the only exception I can think, and that would be the (in)famous Atrax robustus (but this due to the fact that Australia doesn't permit the 'trade' of those, therefore they could be a kinda 'Holy Grail' for few avid collectors). But this is another story.

Also, as others stated, enters factors like the easy breeding part (P.murinus, P.cambridgei with 0.1 pretty "fertile" etc just for throw two names).

Question (lol, I know I keep saying this) should be, instead: "why easy to breed T's like H.pulchripes still today costs that much?" but you know, I realized that people love their "swag" T's, and "I'm wrong" nonetheless. As if someone would pay $100 for an OBT