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Nightstalker47

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I mean.. how many claims can you make as fact in one thread with no evidence? It's starting to amaze me. It literally says most. And specifically excludes Cyriopagopus schioedtei.

They burrow in captivity. And I haven't seen or heard of them doing the same in the wild. And neither have you apparently.
George, you're still basing yourself off a few youtube videos, not like you went out in the field and observed every one of these living in trees with your own eyes. I dont think its crazy to assume that at times, they would burrow in the wild just as they do in captivity. We cant really say for certain whats fact at this time. Also, keep in mind that the trees they live inside are filled with debris, with which they could "burrow" into to some extent.
Is this species not in Omothymus?
Pretty sure Omothymus was rejected, leaving the species that were moved back to their original genera.
The subfamily of the Ornithoctoninae (known as “earth tigers”, due to the patterns on their abdomen) mostly consists burrowing bird spiders living deep underground, except for spiders of the Cyriopagopus– and Phormingochilus-genus. The spiders are very timid and occasionally visible at night. Similar to the burrowing bird spiders from the Ornithoctoninae-subfamily Cyriopagopus spp. often creates a tunnel system underground.

This is from www.THERAPHOSIDAE.BE
@dangerforceidle In case you never found it yourself, theres another source concurring with what I told you in the past. They are not called earth tigers because of their fangs, hope we can lay that to rest.
 

dangerforceidle

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@dangerforceidle In case you never found it yourself, theres another source concurring with what I told you in the past. They are not called earth tigers because of their fangs, hope we can lay that to rest.
Still circumstantial. But my point was, in a scientific sense, it doesn't matter where the common name comes from, and my objection was that you seemed to be aggressively correcting a personal anecdote which didn't need to be corrected. I agree with you, for the record, that the tiger pattern on the abdomen makes sense and is the logical reason in my head for the common name.

World Spider Catalog still lists them as Omothymus -- granted it isn't always super up-to-date with changes -- as does theraphosidae.be (which you've established as an information authority ;)), but is there something published more recently than 2015 that outlines the reasons for rejection of the move? I'm not challenging that it's true, necessarily, but I have searched Scholar and WSC and can't find reference to the move being rejected. Any more resources for this kind of thing are more than welcomed, and I do actually read the papers.
 
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Venom1080

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George, you're still basing yourself off a few youtube videos, not like you went out in the field and observed every one of these living in trees with your own eyes. I dont think its crazy to assume that at times, they would burrow in the wild just as they do in captivity. We cant really say for certain whats fact at this time. Also, keep in mind that the trees they live inside are filled with debris, with which they could "burrow" into to some extent.

Pretty sure Omothymus was rejected, leaving the species that were moved back to their original genera.

@dangerforceidle In case you never found it yourself, theres another source concurring with what I told you in the past. They are not called earth tigers because of their fangs, hope we can lay that to rest.
You find me some other evidence. Then I'll consider it. I'm basing my opinion off very little evidence. You and cold blood are basing yours off nothing. Captivity does NOT count. I'm not saying it's fact. Just saying there's more evidence for this way over another.
 
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