Failing Blondi mating, why?

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So.

I've got 3 blondi females, and one male. They are not related, at least not the male with the girls. He's adult now. He's spun sperm net. He's been drumming next to the females, and especially one has answered him and comes out against the glas to greet him. They fondle, but he leaves. HE LEAVES. In the beginning he rushed out, but now they mingle fondly and stridulates and he leaves after a while without finishing. I'm sick of it.

The other two gals has been less succesful even. One is scared and the other doesn't leave her den, although she reares up in there. He's a screwup! What am I to do? I'm sooo fed up failing this species.

Other facts;

Yes, it's moist in there.
Yes, it's late in the year and winter is coming outside.
It's about 22-24 degrees C in here.
 

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Put viagra in his water?

No, but seriously, I don't think theres anything you can do. How big are the girls? Are you sure they're "ready"?
 

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Hm go up to 27-28 C, they will be more active. that might help.
 

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Hm go up to 27-28 C, they will be more active. that might help.
I don't think so, they are active enough. They are in the mating fondle, he just doesn't <EDIT -MrI> finish it. He even tries to exit before the willing females can caress him enough.

I'm starting to suspect he's not really attracted for some reason. Any mixups with the "new breeds" and what not perhaps? And how would I know if it were? Is it an obsticle if it is? Would they still mate? What is happening?!?! :barf:
 

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I don't think so, they are active enough. They are in the mating fondle, he just doesn't <EDIT -MrI> finish it. He even tries to exit before the willing females can caress him enough.

I'm starting to suspect he's not really attracted for some reason. Any mixups with the "new breeds" and what not perhaps? And how would I know if it were? Is it an obsticle if it is? Would they still mate? What is happening?!?! :barf:
Well, they are nowere near 22C in the wild (mating season is between May and august, i believe) But hey, Up to you.
 

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Do you have molt records of females? Do they have hides or burrows? How exactly is their behavior towards the male (aggressive, nervous, what?)?? Does the male drums or ''shakes'' when is in the females cages? I would also suggest to raise day temps to 27-28 C with cooler nights 22-24 C.

Pato-
 

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^^^ Up there is the advice of someone who has been knee deep on the jungle canopy.
 

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Aslo, are you 100% sure you have "females"? We had some guaranteed "females" too and were having rotten luck as well breeding ours. Our male strummed and would get our girls out and would touch each other quite a bit, but never could make it through the entire process. Well, our females shortly there after molted, and turned out they all were mature males! We even had some credible sources confirm they were female. imagine our shock. Just saying...
 

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Do you have molt records of females? Do they have hides or burrows? How exactly is their behavior towards the male (aggressive, nervous, what?)?? Does the male drums or ''shakes'' when is in the females cages? I would also suggest to raise day temps to 27-28 C with cooler nights 22-24 C.

Pato-
No records of molts, but I have been around to know when they last molted approx.

The male drums single beats in his plastic box next to the most likely breedable female. And she answeres time and time again by coming out and standing by the glass. When they are introduced they both shake and cautiosly approach each other, then fondle and he raises her a bit. Then after a couple of minutes he backs away and leaves, without insertion. There's not much for me to add. I've mated several species before and this is...the same. But fails.

Temp, yes....but....this willing behavior should not be staved by the temp. I understand that the wrong temp might affect the sack, but...this is courtship.
 

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Then you should know better about temps ;)

And temps can perfectly affect the pairing.
 

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No records of molts, but I have been around to know when they last molted approx.

The male drums single beats in his plastic box next to the most likely breedable female. And she answeres time and time again by coming out and standing by the glass. When they are introduced they both shake and cautiosly approach each other, then fondle and he raises her a bit. Then after a couple of minutes he backs away and leaves, without insertion. There's not much for me to add. I've mated several species before and this is...the same. But fails.

Temp, yes....but....this willing behavior should not be staved by the temp. I understand that the wrong temp might affect the sack, but...this is courtship.
So does he just hold her up?
After a couple minutes he should have been at least trying to insert.
 

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I take it you did not read the thread.
mmm! strange answer, considering.
Let me put it a different way. Have you checked the identity of the Theraphosa that you have, male and females? Do you know how to tell the difference between blondi and sp. burgundy?

You mention you have been around since the moults. Are you aware of Ray Gabriel's indication that the most successful mating appeared within the first month of both male and female moults?
 

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I'm starting to suspect he's not really attracted for some reason. Any mixups with the "new breeds" and what not perhaps? And how would I know if it were? Is it an obsticle if it is? Would they still mate? What is happening?!?! :barf:

mmm! strange answer, considering.
Let me put it a different way. Have you checked the identity of the Theraphosa that you have, male and females? Do you know how to tell the difference between blondi and sp. burgundy?

You mention you have been around since the moults. Are you aware of Ray Gabriel's indication that the most successful mating appeared within the first month of both male and female moults?
Yes, I am aware. But I'm not aware how to tell between burgundy and "ordinary" blondi, so that could help.

I just tried to mate the most receptive female again this morning. Ive never seen such a willing lady, follows him around like a lapdog...But he evades her after some fondling, like before.
 
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