Fact-checking Coyote Peterson

darkness975

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I do suspect Peterson plants animals before "finding" them
I agree with this. I suspect the same thing.

Also, I do agree the sensationalism is counter intuitive. Some videos are not that bad and others are outright ridiculous.
 

Staehilomyces

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I agree with this. I suspect the same thing.

Also, I do agree the sensationalism is counter intuitive. Some videos are not that bad and others are outright ridiculous.
His videos are definitely very inconsistent with quality. At best, he gives basic information in an engaging manner, and at worst, he's outrageously wrong.
 

Godzilla90fan

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He is all over the place. One video he will be raising awareness about wild wolf populations, wolverines, and other conservation efforts, without at any point making an animal uncomfortable. Then he will do a dozen videos where he spends 5 minutes exaggerating how dangerous an animal is, another 5 minutes stressing it beyond belief, then casually drop the animal when it does bite or sting him, and be a drama queen about it.

I get two thoughts from this. 1) MAYBE he does the crappy, overacting videos to raise money for his conservation videos that may not pull in as many views, doubt it, but maybe
2) It seems VERY clear to me that he doesn't consider bugs, insects, inverts, or "creepy crawlies" in general animals. He doesn't show them NEAR the respect he does mammals, amphibians, and birds, even fish. ONLY invert I ever saw him respect was a giant snail (and people in comments had reasons to believe that it was planted as well).

Used to think he did more good than bad but I am starting to wonder.
 

dragonherpetology

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I've done SI with both Rattlers and many species of centipede so here's my 2¢:

Most rattlers have very bad secondary effects that centipedes obviously don't; not because their venom isnt strong enough, it's simply due to venom load and composition difference. A snake, even a baby obviously has a much higher venom load then even a big centipede, so effects are going to be bad regardless. It's just like how people say SA giant venom is weak, it is in comparison to say dehaani but a gigantea can put a lot more venom in you then a typical dehaani so you can have equally as bad or worse effects from a gigantea as you would a dehaani.

With that said, I have experienced greater pain in some cases from centipede envenomations then I did with some of my Crotalus viridis and small atrox bites. The true Indian sapphire from India was as bad pain wise as a baby Crotalus viridis, and a typical atrox hit was matched in pain by the Riau giant(Indonesia/Riau collected specimens, not the Malaysian ones available now as their venom seems weaker), but the snake bites always had worse secondary effects.
Crotalus is dangerous and not as easy to perform SI with, so I've done dosages of snake venom equivalent to what a 5" centipede would inject and the effects are about on par with a pede when injected in that small of amount, swelling is always worse with Crotalus venom, but again pain can actually be greater dosage for dosage in centipede venom.

Anyway, that's just my take on the venom stuff. On the original note, coyote spews BS and is a fear mongering actor, nothing more.
On another note.. why are you getting bitten so much? Lol
 

TimmmyTarantula

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I've never been a fan of "naturalists" whose methodology is " oh hey wow look at this incredible animal in its natural habitat.... LETS GO MESS WITH IT!!" Personally I think all his im getting bit by videos play off the NASCAR crash effect, yea the race is cool but you know everybody is waiting for the crash. And if he's getting bitten for "scientific reasearch" there's a whole bunch of ow ts we dont have bite reports for yet!
 
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