Ephebopus Cyanognathus Blue Fang

[TheraMygale]

Hey friends.

of course I was influenced by Dave’s little Beastie latest video.

of course, i used the search engine.

i am here to open a new discussion on this very interesting tarantula.

i read all the posts I found relative. I know who has one, and who had one.

time has passed. I am hoping more people have added this species in their company.

i get the entire husbandry. The challenges with slings. The awesome possible turrets.

the speed and possible defensiveness is not an issue, nor a detriment.

i am wondering, what current experiences have been, with those who own this species. From sling to adult.

are they really fast growing?

their speed is not something that bothers me. I own P murinus. I also have house spiders that are so fast its mind boggling, so a sling that demonstrates the same speed is not an issue.

to be honnest, its not the blue fangs. Its the potential turrets and overall appearance of this pet hole.

being a new world, even if it can pack a punch, its pedipalp UrS seem to be less intense then my brachypelmas.

i am curious about this tarantula.

no specific question. Its an open discussion.

the care you provided and results. Since its a heat lover, did you provide supplemental heat?

did you put water in soil? I know it somewhat moisture dependant.

i have a fossorial, and i know the difference from a swamp and moist sub.

i just think we have room to adress this Tarantula and their needs.

i want to know more about them, from your points of view. They are pricey for me. Especialy for a pet hole.

but i am considering them.

 

[cold blood]

You want turrets, go for an Augacephalus.

 

[IntermittentSygnal]

I have a cousin, Ephebopus murinus. Amazing turret building:

https://arachnoboards.com/attachments/img_2944-jpeg.478701/

@Charliemum

 

[TheraMygale]

You want turrets, go for an Augacephalus.

Its on my list, especialy with the potential dry factor. Never read about this on the boards, on what i read.

they are already all gone, since their availability in my local. I have been waiting for ideal weather to buy a new tarantula.

i don’t remember their price though.

price matters to me because if i get a weak sling, its easier to swallow.

now youre just priming me up more on the auga

augacephalus ezendami. Had it in mind since i read a post you did on them being dry potential fossorials. And i suppose their feeding issues are similar to E cyan.

i have no qualms with keeping feedings low. If it means seeing toes more often. Besides, i don’t sleep. I can see me tarantulas anytime.

what attracted me to E cyan, was not the “blue fangs”. It was the yellow markings on the leg segments, and the almost rust heart shapes near the tarsus.

thay strange burgundiish color, with yellowish abdomen.

their speed does not bother me. Nor the defensiveness. After P murinus, i think this is not the same obstacle. Well set up, with room to turret away, this tarantula will just retreat, if approached with calm. And if not, its just a matter of time until it goes back into its hole.

Herpyllus ecclesiasticus gives me a real run for my money. I am afraid of this spider

 

[Charliemum]

I have a cousin, Ephebopus murinus. Amazing turret building:

https://arachnoboards.com/attachments/img_2944-jpeg.478701/

@Charliemum

Omg it's like a flower that's an absolutely amazing turret .

Hey Thera babes , you know I have cyanognathus and ezendami .
Both are stunning both make amazing decorated turrets same as the others in their genus. You really can't go wrong with either, my cyanognathus likes it damp, ezendami dry, they both sit on top of their towers waiting for food and although I have heard off others ezendami are bad eaters as slings mine have been little piggies. I will say though they don't take live food they prefer prekilled mealworms left laid over the entrance of their turret, if they are in premoult n don't want it they push it over the edge away from their turret but apart from that legs wrap over it n it disappears into the turret it's fun to watch, reminds me of vertical Segestrias . My cyanognathus has always eaten well girl will take on anything .
I am sure you would be more then capable of taking on these t's or any in there genus for that matter. Your a great keeper girl, you do your research and genuinely care for your t's can't get a better combo imo .


As a bonus turreting t I put forward Neoholothele fasciaaurinigra. My female has made a turret in her viv but instead of decorating it with just moss leaf on the outside, she used the sub she has dug up to line the inside of the full turret. It's quite impressive tbh n not something I expected from this sp but a feature I 100% enjoy .
They are a rare sp but if you come across one they are worth the having, even at the price they bring.

 

[TheraMygale]

You are one of the best keepers i have learned from. Your insight is always a privilege.

I had read your threads on E cyan. But you have skills others don’t. You can handle tarantulas most people can’t.

So this is why i posted a public thread. I knew you would have great things to say, and to be honest, you and @fcat are the very few who have actual keeping feedback that i know of, that is relevant.

Thank you for the contribution.

 

[cold blood]

Ezendami are only poor eaters as small slings....after that, they're ferocious eaters

 

[Charliemum]

Ezendami are only poor eaters as small slings....after that, they're ferocious eaters

I know, that's what I was told too, but had mine since they were about 1cm slings, I have always done this they have always eaten so I tell others so hopefully their slings will eat too. Prekilled mini mealworm has never failed with my 2. You never know it may help someone who is struggling to get theirs to take live pray .

Although you've raised alot more of these then me (just a little) so your knowledge counts for more , I assume mine are just exceptions to the rule n most like you say are fussy.

 

[Ratmosphere]

They do grow pretty fast, but more a "medium" growth rate. They are also pretty fast speed wise, but nothing too crazy IMO.

As slings, keep the substrate damp. Adults are able to dry out a good bit, but I still like to keep them on the damp side.

Slings start out colorful and have arboreal tendencies. After the sling stage, they start losing color and become more and more fossorial. I personally love them in their juvenile stage, and wish they stayed this color. They start to dull out the older they get but keep those striking bands on their legs. Their blue fangs also turn a metallic purple/silver shade the older they get.

You might not see the spider a lot, but you will know when it is hungry. When this tarantula wants to eat, its legs will be present at the edge of their hole waiting for a meal.

Truly an awesome tarantula to have.

 

[Kada]

A. junodi are pretty fierce eaters as well, and great turrets I'm still astonished how s all the mature males are, however. Just doesn't seem right haha

 

[IntermittentSygnal]

As a bonus turreting t I put forward Neoholothele fasciaaurinigra. My female has made a turret in her viv but instead of decorating it with just moss leaf on the outside, she used the sub she has dug up to line the inside of the full turret. It's quite impressive tbh n not something I expected from this sp but a feature I 100% enjoy

Mine makes turrets, too, though not as impressive as the murinus.

 

[Charliemum]

Mine makes turrets, too, though not as impressive as the murinus.

No not as impressive as that flower what could be but for a t I expected no tower from just web I was impressed it actually looks like bark or my girls does. Will see if I can get pics today, I need to fix a bike first though . My sons 11th soon I got him a bike he was out an hour came bk with a big puncture . I have never changed a bike tire/innertube before, it will be an experience . Thank 'insert chosen God here' for utube tutorials .

 

[TheraMygale]

Where i get my tarantulas,

E murinus and E cyan are 80$ 1/2”.

pretty much any tarantula im interested in is in those prices and above.

except T vagans. Its not as spectacular and interesting as the others. But at 15$ A 3/4”, its easier on the budget.

sigh.

 

[Charliemum]

Where i get my tarantulas,

E murinus and E cyan are 80$ 1/2”.

pretty much any tarantula im interested in is in those prices and above.

except T vagans. Its not as spectacular and interesting as the others. But at 15$ A 3/4”, its easier on the budget.

sigh.

Nothing wrong with vagans they are beautiful in their own way, that red with that black is rather striking rl.


The promised turret from my neoholothele fasciaaurinigra af.
Her first turret lined about 1.5 cm thick with sub and the beginning of her new turret that goes to the very bottom of her viv.
I highlighted the edge of what she's built in purple.




For a t I had no info except they may web on I was quite impressed

 

[Ratmosphere]

Go with cyan…you’ll love it.

You’ll like both but blue fangs are so sick.

 

[IntermittentSygnal]

Where i get my tarantulas,

E murinus and E cyan are 80$ 1/2”.

pretty much any tarantula im interested in is in those prices and above.

except T vagans. Its not as spectacular and interesting as the others. But at 15$ A 3/4”, its easier on the budget.

sigh.

I’d recommend saving up for an Ephebopus. My murinus was tied for #1 favorite T with Sacha, my genic, up until he hooked out a couple months ago. The turrets, the fun hunting, those beautiful bones on velvet black butt, just loved him. Now that he’s hooked out, he’s knocked down the top of his turret throne, no longer goes into his burrow and is very defensive (struck the lid with his fangs when I tossed in his prekill). I’m assuming because there’s not a lot of space topside, especially with those long, long legs, as he was housed fossorial. Might have to rehouse him as terrestrial now. Even with all that noise, I still would call him one of my favorite species. Another angle. He loved those leaves.

 

[Charliemum]

I’d recommend saving up for an Ephebopus. My murinus was tied for #1 favorite T with Sacha, my genic, up until he hooked out a couple months ago. The turrets, the fun hunting, those beautiful bones on velvet black butt, just loved him. Now that he’s hooked out, he’s knocked down the top of his turret throne, no longer goes into his burrow and is very defensive (struck the lid with his fangs when I tossed in his prekill). I’m assuming because there’s not a lot of space topside, especially with those long, long legs, as he was housed fossorial. Might have to rehouse him as terrestrial now. Even with all that noise, I still would call him one of my favorite species. Another angle. He loved those leaves.
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That's so sad but I agree an excellent sp/genus, there is nothing quite like those stunning legs hanging out of their turret .

 

[TheraMygale]

I’d recommend saving up for an Ephebopus. My murinus was tied for #1 favorite T with Sacha, my genic, up until he hooked out a couple months ago. The turrets, the fun hunting, those beautiful bones on velvet black butt, just loved him. Now that he’s hooked out, he’s knocked down the top of his turret throne, no longer goes into his burrow and is very defensive (struck the lid with his fangs when I tossed in his prekill). I’m assuming because there’s not a lot of space topside, especially with those long, long legs, as he was housed fossorial. Might have to rehouse him as terrestrial now. Even with all that noise, I still would call him one of my favorite species. Another angle. He loved those leaves.
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I am definitely considering saving up and waiting. The murinus also get bigger then E cyan.

i understand the male changes create a different experience. I always prefer female, because of those reasons. Live longer, behavior etc.

its not possible to know sex when buying a non confirmed sling. And at 80$, its a pricey suprise if its male. I do still think the E murinus might be better for me. I like the contrast of colors that seem more “permanent” then the cyan.

i can get a colorful tarantula by getting an avic/c versi (once they are restocked).

 

[Charliemum]

I am definitely considering saving up and waiting. The murinus also get bigger then E cyan.

i understand the male changes create a different experience. I always prefer female, because of those reasons. Live longer, behavior etc.

its not possible to know sex when buying a non confirmed sling. And at 80$, its a pricey suprise if its male. I do still think the E murinus might be better for me. I like the contrast of colors that seem more “permanent” then the cyan.

i can get a colorful tarantula by getting an avic/c versi (once they are restocked).

You know me fossorial all the way lol

 

[IntermittentSygnal]

I am definitely considering saving up and waiting. The murinus also get bigger then E cyan.

i understand the male changes create a different experience. I always prefer female, because of those reasons. Live longer, behavior etc.

its not possible to know sex when buying a non confirmed sling. And at 80$, its a pricey suprise if its male. I do still think the E murinus might be better for me. I like the contrast of colors that seem more “permanent” then the cyan.

i can get a colorful tarantula by getting an avic/c versi (once they are restocked).

Another cool thing about Ephebopus is that they are arboreal as slings and fossorial as juveniles/adults. I really enjoyed seeing that transition. Even though he is male, I still got a good 1.5 years of great experience with him.
Added for clarity: 1.5 years before he hooked out. He’s still alive.