Ephebopus Cyanognathus Blue Fang

[Charliemum]

Another cool thing about Ephebopus is that they are arboreal as slings and fossorial as juveniles/adults. I really enjoyed seeing that transition. Even though he is male, I still got a good 1.5 years of great experience with him.
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I got my af as an af so I missed all that behaviour . How very cool .

I did try getting another sling not so long ago I was missing my big girl as she passed a while back. But poor little sling came ate once and was dead the next day . I haven't tried again since then.
I will say though it was the seller not the sp the past 2 orders I got off them I got dead slings. I won't use them anymore it's too horrible. But as I said seller not sp so please don't let it put you off an amazing group of t's.

 

[IntermittentSygnal]

I got my af as an af so I missed all that behaviour . How very cool .

I did try getting another sling not so long ago I was missing my big girl as she passed a while back. But poor little sling came ate once and was dead the next day . I haven't tried again since then.
I will say though it was the seller not the sp the past 2 orders I got off them I got dead slings. I won't use them anymore it's too horrible. But as I said seller not sp so please don't let it put you off an amazing group of t's.

I also lost my first one. About a week after its first molt with me. I posted everything on AB and no one saw an obvious error on my husbandry. I used L4nksy’s husbandry of moisture dependent slings thread (which I use for all my moisture lovers). I was very nervous with my second one, but he made it to MM without any difficulties.

 

[Charliemum]

I also lost my first one. About a week after its first molt with me. I posted everything on AB and no one saw an obvious error on my husbandry. I used L@nksy’s husbandry of moisture dependent slings thread (which I use for all my moisture lovers). I was very nervous with my second one, but he made it to MM without any difficulties.

Same here L4nsky's set up sub ect, i know its good all my other Ephebopus have been raised the same n had np but little one came so so skinny and I think it was to late before little one even got to me. I will try again one day but once my trusted seller has them not from the same shop the last one came from.

 

[IntermittentSygnal]

Same here L4nsky's set up sub ect, i know its good all my other Ephebopus have been raised the same n had np but little one came so so skinny and I think it was to late before little one even got to me. I will try again one day but once my trusted seller has them not from the same shop the last one came from.

I thought all Ephebopus were arboreal as slings. Didn’t you get your cyanognathus as a sling?
My N fasc did the dirt turret and escape entrance, too, although between the two were tunnels. As beautiful as they are, I wouldn’t recommend them to others. For the price, the actually amount of time I see him/her is about $10 a viewing. Also having to prekill everything for them. Neat set up though. Spaghnum moss is where the original premade burrow was.



Escape tunnel

Turret on the top right, escape tunnel exit circled

 

[Charliemum]

I thought all Ephebopus were arboreal as slings. Didn’t you get your cyanognathus as a sling?
My N fasc did the dirt turret and escape entrance, too, although between the two were tunnels. As beautiful as they are, I wouldn’t recommend them to others. For the price, the actually amount of time I see him/her is about $10 a viewing. Also having to prekill everything for them. Neat set up though. Spaghnum moss is where the original premade burrow was.
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Yes I have cyanognathus did have 2 but my ex got one and i have 1 uatuman to, raised all from sling but all have burrowed straight away n built turrets never lived arboreal at all. My uatuman is still tiny infact, maybe an inch big n has a turret n lives in a burrow in the sub lol. Never seen arboreal tendencies from any of them.

 

[TheraMygale]

I thought all Ephebopus were arboreal as slings. Didn’t you get your cyanognathus as a sling?
My N fasc did the dirt turret and escape entrance, too, although between the two were tunnels. As beautiful as they are, I wouldn’t recommend them to others. For the price, the actually amount of time I see him/her is about $10 a viewing. Also having to prekill everything for them. Neat set up though. Spaghnum moss is where the original premade burrow was.
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Escape tunnel
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Yes I have cyanognathus did have 2 but my ex got one and i have 1 uatuman to, raised all from sling but all have burrowed straight away n built turrets never lived arboreal at all. My uatuman is still tiny infact, maybe an inch big n has a turret n lives in a burrow in the sub lol. Never seen arboreal tendencies from any of them.

I watched all the videos i could on youtube. Including those from sources i do not like. My goal was to compare how people are keeping them.

i also used the search bar with the latin name.

i compiled the information.

my conclusion, as how i would keep mine, is exactly as a sling enclosure with some depth to burrow, but with extra height, some dry moss and leaf litter. So yes, basicaly arboreal height, less floor space. Maybe an inch extra enclosure size.

while creating a starter burrow in a corner, a mini piece of cork angled. Hoping to coax it into digging along the wall so i can perhaps have a view in the burrow.

its all trial and error of course. But this would be my approach. If this would work, and rehousing were to occur, i would try my best to tranfer part of the enclosure into the new one.

i would also drill holes in bottom of soil.

if i get to purchase one. I will definitely share my consctruction.

 

[IntermittentSygnal]

I watched all the videos i could on youtube. Including those from sources i do not like. My goal was to compare how people are keeping them.

i also used the search bar with the latin name.

i compiled the information.

my conclusion, as how i would keep mine, is exactly as a sling enclosure with some depth to burrow, but with extra height, some dry moss and leaf litter. So yes, basicaly arboreal height, less floor space. Maybe an inch extra enclosure size.

while creating a starter burrow in a corner, a mini piece of cork angled. Hoping to coax it into digging along the wall so i can perhaps have a view in the burrow.

its all trial and error of course. But this would be my approach. If this would work, and rehousing were to occur, i would try my best to tranfer part of the enclosure into the new one.

i would also drill holes in bottom of soil.

if i get to purchase one. I will definitely share my consctruction.

Mine, too, created a burrow down from the high web tube (kinda like a straw). I used the info in the link below to base my set up on. I used a plastic plant as close as I could find to the one in the article. When he turned to the fossorial way, he covered the entire area in a sheet of web and dirt to make that funnel you see in the third picture on the opposite corner (where I had initially made a starter burrow, to see what he would choose). Pictures 2 and 3 above are the same enclosure.

https://britishspiders.org.uk/system/files/library/140605.pdf

 

[TheraMygale]

Mine, too, created a burrow down from the high web tube (kinda like a straw). I used the info in the link below to base my set up on. I used a plastic plant as close as I could find to the one in the article. When he turned to the fossorial way, he covered the entire area in a sheet of web and dirt to make that funnel you see in the third picture on the opposite corner (where I had initially made a starter burrow, to see what he would choose). Pictures 2 and 3 above are the same enclosure.

https://britishspiders.org.uk/system/files/library/140605.pdf

What your tarantula made looks totaly like the photo in the paper.

i think its smart to buy a fake looking “safe” bromeliad/plant. Totaly worth trying.

 

[Arachnophobphile]

Hey friends.

of course I was influenced by Dave’s little Beastie latest video.

of course, i used the search engine.

i am here to open a new discussion on this very interesting tarantula.

i read all the posts I found relative. I know who has one, and who had one.

time has passed. I am hoping more people have added this species in their company.

i get the entire husbandry. The challenges with slings. The awesome possible turrets.

the speed and possible defensiveness is not an issue, nor a detriment.

i am wondering, what current experiences have been, with those who own this species. From sling to adult.

are they really fast growing?

their speed is not something that bothers me. I own P murinus. I also have house spiders that are so fast its mind boggling, so a sling that demonstrates the same speed is not an issue.

to be honnest, its not the blue fangs. Its the potential turrets and overall appearance of this pet hole.

being a new world, even if it can pack a punch, its pedipalp UrS seem to be less intense then my brachypelmas.

i am curious about this tarantula.

no specific question. Its an open discussion.

the care you provided and results. Since its a heat lover, did you provide supplemental heat?

did you put water in soil? I know it somewhat moisture dependant.

i have a fossorial, and i know the difference from a swamp and moist sub.

i just think we have room to adress this Tarantula and their needs.

i want to know more about them, from your points of view. They are pricey for me. Especialy for a pet hole.

but i am considering them.

This T is a stunning one IMO and it's been on my list for a while now. It's an obligate burrower spending majority of it's time underground well into adulthood.

Right now they are abundantly available in the U.S. For how long is anyone's guess.

I have my eye on a Ephebopus murinus which used to be more available in the U.S. and now difficult to find. I have found one seller that has them.

My dilemma is I keep a certain amount of tarantulas and I will not go over that amount. This is when I find some T's I really want and are available. Advance time and I am ready for a couple of new ones whether I upgraded to a bigger shelf system or some mature males pass. However the ones I wanted are no longer available, hence one of the issues with keeping tarantulas.

I say if you have the room, being realistic with oneself then get it. If you wait for even one year that species of genus might not be available then.

 

[TheraMygale]

This T is a stunning one IMO and it's been on my list for a while now. It's an obligate burrower spending majority of it's time underground well into adulthood.

Right now they are abundantly available in the U.S. For how long is anyone's guess.

I have my eye on a Ephebopus murinus which used to be more available in the U.S. and now difficult to find. I have found one seller that has them.

My dilemma is I keep a certain amount of tarantulas and I will not go over that amount. This is when I find some T's I really want and are available. Advance time and I am ready for a couple of new ones whether I upgraded to a bigger shelf system or some mature males pass. However the ones I wanted are no longer available, hence one of the issues with keeping tarantulas.

I say if you have the room, being realistic with oneself then get it. If you wait for even one year that species of genus might not be available then.

thanks for that. I agree with you. The E cyan have not always been in stock and i suspect they will go fast.

the first spring import has not arrived. Which is pretty much my deadline…

it will all depend on what comes in. Because if a species i have been waiting for was to appear, and i already stocked up, I will be sad.

so fingers crossed, within a month…

i have the room. But i also thought i had a lot of tarantulas already, even if for many, it is not.

i’m focusing on what i can maintain given the tarantulas specific needs, within the space I have.

 

[Arachnophobphile]

thanks for that. I agree with you. The E cyan have not always been in stock and i suspect they will go fast.

the first spring import has not arrived. Which is pretty much my deadline…

it will all depend on what comes in. Because if a species i have been waiting for was to appear, and i already stocked up, I will be sad.

so fingers crossed, within a month…

i have the room. But i also thought i had a lot of tarantulas already, even if for many, it is not.

i’m focusing on what i can maintain given the tarantulas specific needs, within the space I have.

I wish you luck hopefully the next import will be great for you.

Not to sound morbid but I'm waiting on three mature male T's to pass. I don't want them to nor am I eager for them to pass it's just the reality of it. When they pass I'll get three more to fill those spots.

However one mature male a T. albopilosus matured back in June 2022 and he shows no sign of slowing down. My P. sp blue matured beginning of 2024 and I lost the date from my old phone when my A. geniculata matured. It's been a while and none of them show any signs of slowing down.

I seem to be more focused at the moment on starting a new and different roach colony. My E. posticus roach colony takes way too long for nymphs to reach adulthood. I would say they are best kept as pets and as a last resort as feeders after other colonies need recouping time to replenish. They also stink to high heaven so not for the squimish.

They nauseate me when I go to get some to feed to some of my tarantulas. They seem to know when I'm collecting them to feed off versus doing maintenance and feeding them. It's uncanny how they can distinguish the difference. They emit an extremely foul smell when I go to get them to feed off. When I'm doing maintenance they do not emit the foul smell. I feel bad when I go to get some to feed off but hey.....my tarantulas come first.

 

[TheraMygale]

I wish you luck hopefully the next import will be great for you.

Not to sound morbid but I'm waiting on three mature male T's to pass. I don't want them to nor am I eager for them to pass it's just the reality of it. When they pass I'll get three more to fill those spots.

However one mature male a T. albopilosus matured back in June 2022 and he shows no sign of slowing down. My P. sp blue matured beginning of 2024 and I lost the date from my old phone when my A. geniculata matured. It's been a while and none of them show any signs of slowing down.

I seem to be more focused at the moment on starting a new and different roach colony. My E. posticus roach colony takes way too long for nymphs to reach adulthood. I would say they are best kept as pets and as a last resort as feeders after other colonies need recouping time to replenish. They also stink to high heaven so not for the squimish.

They nauseate me when I go to get some to feed to some of my tarantulas. They seem to know when I'm collecting them to feed off versus doing maintenance and feeding them. It's uncanny how they can distinguish the difference. They emit an extremely foul smell when I go to get them to feed off. When I'm doing maintenance they do not emit the foul smell. I feel bad when I go to get some to feed off but hey.....my tarantulas come first.

All my tarantulas are currently not eating. As much as i prefer being able to actualy get some hunting action, i don’t mind not having any feeders to deal with. For now.

i hope your males have a plentiful end of the line.

i know i have some males hidden in my little coven. Id rather not think about it for now

 

[Arachnophobphile]

All my tarantulas are currently not eating. As much as i prefer being able to actualy get some hunting action, i don’t mind not having any feeders to deal with. For now.

i hope your males have a plentiful end of the line.

i know i have some males hidden in my little coven. Id rather not think about it for now

Thanks, I hope so too even though they hate me I'm attached to them.