Okay thank you. My V. carolinianus (I think that's what he is...) Is pretty cool, but after looking at the other species, The spinigerus Is exactly what I have been looking for! Thank you guys for all the help, again, I'm sorry I have been so impossible.There are several, but they are smaller. Rhopalurus and Babycurus are the largest thick tailed buthids with less potent venom. Vaejovis carolinianus has a very thick tailed look, very week venom, but very small. Other Vaejovids would also fit the look, but, again, most are very small.