Dog breeders in nj?--- Help please.

Crysta

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I heard feeding too many veggies a day could give her dia-re-uh. lol. Or wet tail or something. that it should only a few times a week.

I give her as a staple diet of hay:
-Orchard Grass hay
-Timothy Hay
-Western Timothy hay
-Bermuda Grass
-Oat hay
-Botanical Grass
If bunny's could get that much dry hay in the wild they be great. hehe wild bunnys rarely need to drink since their hay is already full of water (grass, etc) Im always throwing handfulls of grass to buns, she loved it. (however u need to watch for lawn parasites etc, but im always like what the hell with that stuff... my brocoli i eat daily probably holds more bugs haha)

I avoid feeding alfalfa. Infact I NEVER use alfalfa hay. As for pellets I go for the "oxbow" brand. A fellow coworker---this woman was deranged and completely obsessed with bun buns. I took her word more than anyone elses because well. Obsession. lol. She said oxbow is the best brand for rabbits/guinea pigs because it is the healthiest to feed them.

alphalfa is for younger rabbits that require the calcium for their quick growth rate in their bones (from what im lead to believe) exess feeding of alphalfa, or anything rich in calcium will lead to lots of pee.

Oxbow bran is good I heard as well, but anything with the right percentage of protein and something that slipped my mind right now.. ill edit later when I get off the plane.. that isnt based on corn meal is good for rabbits. your pretty much looking for compressed timothy hay pellets with nothing else, well maybe some extra vitamins, etc, it states on the package.


Spray? Mines not neutered. my coworker kept insisting to me NOT to neuter her because it'd make her "stale" in personality wise. Or something. I don't know if its true.
Spraying/pooping and neutering/spaying plays a big factor in the bunnys personality such as the following -
Rabbit poop containers markers and scent.(if you notice some poop smells compared to others they release) this is fixed, when they are fixed.
Litter training is easier
They want to use less dominant behavior on your carpets and other furniture.
They won't run around your feet and may not be as 'loving' towards you, this loving is usually the rabbit making itself boss and marking you with its scent glands.. my rabbit doesnt mark me, dont let her. (tell her to go to the kitchen.. lol)
They won't spray your carpet/wood floors as much when they are out of the enclosure. (doesnt matter if its male or female, females are also very territorial)
They get lazy
They can be accompanied easier and safer with other rabbits, MOST of the time. Sometimes female/female relationships dont work. And if the female rabbits are not spayed they may get fight and claw at eachother. However that can happen with a fixed bunny to, spaying just reduces the chances.
Fixed male/male relationships from what i read work great, most of the time, but as it is male/female are better. But if I had no gonads, I dont think I would care lol..

all in all, the bunny will keep its personality, however, it wont be run on hormones anymore.

Just like how a male cat gets fixed that was once rowdy is now the laziest loving thing there is... lol(thats what happened to my cat)

However, each fix/spay outcome depends on the rabbit itself.

(someone feel free to correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure i got my facts ok.)


I took care of the what if scenario about the bun bun. She'll be safe and proof from harrassment. She's having a room for her where she won't be bothered by the poochies.
becareful with how long you leave the bunny alone, it can get destructive of your walls, etc if its bored. Sometimes when people get a dog they kinda forget their other pets. Rabbits need a lot of supervised time to be happy, (imo) especially if its alone.

Or atleast someone I can sit and watch t.v. and will be warm to the touch. I have reptiles and amphibians. I can't do that with them. As for the bunny. She likes to play more than watch t.v. She's calm but she's overly playfull so I just play with her.
my rabbit sits on the bed with me while she makes me pet her, my girls not fixed yet so i can only imagine the couch potato shes gonna be.. lol however she might end up not being one lol never know. :rolleyes:
 

apopli

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No I was reading online and that's why I thought of it. In reality I'm just looking for answers--- I'm not out to make a hasty decision. I just wanna know if I can keep a dog with the living conditions I'll be in. I mean how do people keep both a job and a dog? I'm pretty sure that people can do both. But that's what Iam trying to ask. How do you do that without the dog getting bored or destructive? I figured I could hire a doggy sitter or something. I'm not going to get that dog now. I already have a dog--- well not my dog. It's my mothers dog--- she's a stay-at-home wife so she can give it full undivided attention for more hours.

But I'm asking for when I decide to get my own place. I like to think ahead and plan ahead. I don't like rushing into things that big.



With a puppy it's hard. For the first 6mos I had my dog (got her at 8wks) I would come home from work at lunch to let her out to pee because leaving her for more than 4hrs or so will just cause her to eliminate in the house and make housebreaking difficult.

Crate training is essential if the puppy is going to be left alone, I think. Puppies learn from their mums (or at least ideally if the mum is housebroken and the pups left with her long enough) where to eliminate and know on instinct that you don't pee/poop where you sleep. It's not cruel (even though they cry and whine at first), it's setting the expectation. While you're alone, this is where I want you. It also keeps puppy safe - nothing to get stuck on, nothing to hurt themselves on, and nothing inappropriate to eat/chew.

At first you'd want to keep the pup in his/her crate every time they're unsupervised, including overnight, then as they start asking for out and learning what's good vs unacceptable behaviour start phasing out the crate. Or not. My dog's 2 and she still goes in her crate when nobody's home (she's an extremely high energy working dog and to her crate time means she can relax and doesn't have to be on guard or constantly watching me even if things are going on). Even when we are home she'll often go in there on her own to nap (overnight she likes to sleep in there but "patrols" the bedrooms every now and then make sure everybody's safe lol). It's her space and she knows nothing will bug her there. It's also where I feed her when she's not eating outside because she eats raw and I don't want her dragging meat all over the house.

I worked in an office 8hrs/day, but I was lucky with her in that I was also training dogs almost fulltime hours before/after my other job so she'd come with me to my training appointments, which served to help her training, get her a ton of exercise and socialization, and it helped the same with the dogs I worked with. Any cases where I didn't want her around the dog I was working with (aggressive cases, mostly, especially because she was just a puppy - my other dog, who's now passed, worked those cases) I'd leave her in the truck for that appt and it helped to teach her patience and how to behave in a vehicle.

Walks and playtime before and after work and at least one other good walk along with playtime when they're up for it and choosing a lower energy breed are the best ways to be successful.

I keep reading your expectations and I wonder if you've ever heard of Clumber Spaniels. They're a bit goofy looking in a cute sort of way, but they're fluffy and a manageable size (medium sized dog, but stocky and thick). I've been around a few and see them at the dog shows. I worked with one who LOVED playing fetch, but when you threw the ball, he'd WALK after it, then WALK back and drop the ball, and wiggle all excited for you to throw it again lol. As puppies they're pretty active, but quickly slow down and mellow out. The handlers and breeders at the dog shows have told me one of the challenges as they get older is getting them off the couch, but once you get them going they'll go willingly enough. They're technically a hunting dog but do well with small animals they're raised with and seem to be a bit low in the prey drive department. Definitely not a jogging partner.

Just a thought, anyhow, I know you're still considering options.
 

Pssh

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If I remember correctly, the females are more likely to get a certain cancer/disease if they are not spayed. Veggies are great for the bunnies but they need to be introduced slowly and gently.


I use old towels covered by fleece as bedding so that I can just vaccum up the poops when I need to and change the towels once a week. Mine have a hay loft that is dedicated to hay only so they go up there to eat hay.
 

SandDeku

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Okay, that makes sense. What you seem to be looking for is a low energy dog that isn't going to demand hours of physical exercise each day from you or a new couch to destroy weekly. Have you considered english bulldogs or english bulldog mixes? They aren't pretty but they are some of the sweetest dogs I've ever known. The only real problem, and it is a big one, is the high occurrence of diseases and disorders the breed experiences. They have the temperament you are looking for and the activity level but they've been bred to the point of being at the physiological and genetic limit for dogs.

Additionally you could get an older dog or even a senior dog from a shelter that has its intensely hyper puppy years well behind it.
I don't like really old dogs. it's not that I just "don't like them" as I say I don't. But as my first very own dog. Of my own. Because I owned "family" dogs. But they were never really my "own". I kinda wanted ATLEAST a young dog. Doesn't have to be a pup. Atleast a year or two old is fine. I like english bulldogs. But someone told me not to get them. I love english bulldogs are you friggin kidding me? lol almost every dog personality test tells me I match more with a bulldog, chihuahua, min pinscher(answers vary sometimes).


Yeah a NEW ruined couch would anger the heck out of me. :x But I heard you can train dogs NOT to ruin anything. lol.

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If bunny's could get that much dry hay in the wild they be great. hehe wild bunnys rarely need to drink since their hay is already full of water (grass, etc) Im always throwing handfulls of grass to buns, she loved it. (however u need to watch for lawn parasites etc, but im always like what the hell with that stuff... my brocoli i eat daily probably holds more bugs haha)


alphalfa is for younger rabbits that require the calcium for their quick growth rate in their bones (from what im lead to believe) exess feeding of alphalfa, or anything rich in calcium will lead to lots of pee.

Oxbow bran is good I heard as well, but anything with the right percentage of protein and something that slipped my mind right now.. ill edit later when I get off the plane.. that isnt based on corn meal is good for rabbits. your pretty much looking for compressed timothy hay pellets with nothing else, well maybe some extra vitamins, etc, it states on the package.




Spraying/pooping and neutering/spaying plays a big factor in the bunnys personality such as the following -
Rabbit poop containers markers and scent.(if you notice some poop smells compared to others they release) this is fixed, when they are fixed.
Litter training is easier
They want to use less dominant behavior on your carpets and other furniture.
They won't run around your feet and may not be as 'loving' towards you, this loving is usually the rabbit making itself boss and marking you with its scent glands.. my rabbit doesnt mark me, dont let her. (tell her to go to the kitchen.. lol)
They won't spray your carpet/wood floors as much when they are out of the enclosure. (doesnt matter if its male or female, females are also very territorial)
They get lazy
They can be accompanied easier and safer with other rabbits, MOST of the time. Sometimes female/female relationships dont work. And if the female rabbits are not spayed they may get fight and claw at eachother. However that can happen with a fixed bunny to, spaying just reduces the chances.
Fixed male/male relationships from what i read work great, most of the time, but as it is male/female are better. But if I had no gonads, I dont think I would care lol..

all in all, the bunny will keep its personality, however, it wont be run on hormones anymore.

Just like how a male cat gets fixed that was once rowdy is now the laziest loving thing there is... lol(thats what happened to my cat)

However, each fix/spay outcome depends on the rabbit itself.

(someone feel free to correct me if im wrong, but im pretty sure i got my facts ok.)



becareful with how long you leave the bunny alone, it can get destructive of your walls, etc if its bored. Sometimes when people get a dog they kinda forget their other pets. Rabbits need a lot of supervised time to be happy, (imo) especially if its alone.


my rabbit sits on the bed with me while she makes me pet her, my girls not fixed yet so i can only imagine the couch potato shes gonna be.. lol however she might end up not being one lol never know. :rolleyes:
Okay i will spay/neuter her. :D thanks! That lady was a liar! D: < Argh! so much frustration for nothing. ;-; A lot of her poops smell terrible. Not as bad as ferret but yeah. She poops ALOT I wish she would take the dump in the litter box. As for scenting I guess it's better that it doesn't. lol.

I never forget my other pets. Because I keep em in my room. If they were outside my room--- I most likely would forget. Dog or no dog. lol. I am routine needy. As in I go by routines specific.

I supervise her alot when shes out. But yeah.
 

pouchedrat

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get that bunny spayed! if for anything, it stops the poop marking and it prevents cancer!
 

SandDeku

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get that bunny spayed! if for anything, it stops the poop marking and it prevents cancer!
I'm going to soon. I'm trying to find the best bunny doc. around here and set an apointment for the month. I found out prices. It goes for like 303dollars! yikes! oh well all for my bun bun.
 

Crysta

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You can ask rabbit shelters as well to see if they will do it for cheaper.
 
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