Genus Cyriopagopus (a.k.a. Haplopelma)

[RichardDegville]

what hair lol

now for more Cyriopagopus spp

'Lampropelma' type

Female 'blue'

 

[Arachnoking]

How big is that female? it looks tiny. the same size as the ones bought at the show. Also i wasnt nit picking. i was making an observation

 

[cichlidsman]

Stemloop, this may help. Check this past thread: >>Click me<<

wow that is a great looking spider.

 

[RichardDegville]

Shes about 2.5 inch the 'Lampropelma' type is about the same size just more stocky
happy now?

 

[cichlidsman]

Heres a ventral view of one of my Cyriopagopus sp "blue" anyone care to take a guess at what sex it is?. i still have another which is shedding.

Keep your hair on Rich lol

is it a male? cos i can see a little bit of black between the upper book lungs.

 

[Arachnoking]

same as mine then.have hopefully got my adult female P.miranda coming in a couple of weeks too

 

[Arachnoking]

no im not happy rich. i dont appreciate being spoken to like that . sorry guys and mods but there was no need for that. i asked a simple question.

 

[G_Wright]

Heres a ventral view of one of my Cyriopagopus sp "blue" anyone care to take a guess at what sex it is?. i still have another which is shedding.

Keep your hair on Rich lol

I think it could be female the epyginal plate is more triangular than straight. At that size though your better off waiting for it to moult then get out the microscope etc

 

[cichlidsman]

I think it could be female the epyginal plate is more triangular than straight. At that size though your better off waiting for it to moult then get out the microscope etc

what is that black spot between the upper book lungs?

 

[Arachnoking]

Thanks for your mput G. Ill wait for it to shed again and send the skin off to Chris.

 

[Lopez]

Bloody hell there's no pleasing some people just nit pick at every thing :? first I want to see a pic now the pics not good enough the photographed specimen is male its a good bit bigger than my females the females are more brown possible premoult or just retared growth due to being females that males just moulted just sit back and enjoy the pic dude I'll take some photos of the females in due course for you to have a nit pic at NOT lol

Leon I dont know if they are from the same batch at the BTS show Alvin never said + Brendan has a 3.5 specimen sent direct also soooooooo...... my new camera does kinda pic out all the colours im well chuffed with it

Aye, thought it might be a male (ie larger then most) as it has more colouration and looks more "grown up" than the ones I've seen from that batch.

 

[Lopez]

Female 'blue'

Aaah, that's more like what I was expecting!

 

[RichardDegville]

yeh true mate the other males the same size and all the females are small I dunno if they are from the same batch or not (BTS) but if they are Brendans got a male thats sexed guaranteed female via Alvin or mr Goh if its not they will replace nice guys!!!

 

[RichardDegville]

Aaah, that's more like what I was expecting!

Hi mate is that a female blue? :?

 

[Lopez]

Hi mate is that a female blue? :?

It's a dedicated moult chewer so I haven't had a chance to be 100% sure either way. Don't like sexing ventrally at the best of times!

 

[RichardDegville]

its a <edit> biggen mate!!! lol fair play!!! nice beast

 

[phormingochilus]

Male

I also remember Alvin saying that there's a high percentage of males in batches from this species ;-)

Søren

Heres a ventral view of one of my Cyriopagopus sp "blue" anyone care to take a guess at what sex it is?. i still have another which is shedding.

Keep your hair on Rich lol

 

[Arachnoking]

dont mean this to sound rude Soren but what are u basing the reply of it being male on? could u demonstrate. im just very curious

 

[phormingochilus]

That's not rude, that's curiosity ;-) and I will try to explain the best I can:

First thing I am basing my assumption on is the knowledge of epiandrous fusillae. In other words the knowledge of the existance of the silk glands males are using when creating the dense and finest silk in their sperm web. These silk glands can be found central on the rim of the epigynal plate which is found between the anterior pair of book lungs. These glands can in some genera be very pronounced and take the shape of a circular/triangular/crescent shaped dark "dot" or "spot" (depending on genera) even at early instars in for instance Brachypelma, Grammostola, Poecilotheria and ornithoctonids. All juvenile to adult males have these fusillae. And the Cyriopagopus (ornithoctonid) in the picture have a marked dark spot right on the center of the rim of the epigynbal plate which is why I say it's a male. At least it looks like any other juvenile male I have encountered within genus Cyriopagopus. I have bred and raised C. schioedtei and a wide array of other ornithoctonids on multiple occasions which leads me to the next few factors which I base my assumption on

... experience, experience and experience ;-)

Learn more about this technique at:
http://www.birdspiders.com/faq_sex.html

Very Best Regards
Søren

dont mean this to sound rude Soren but what are u basing the reply of it being male on? could u demonstrate. im just very curious

 

[RichardDegville]

Hiya just out of interest I would be interested to see a Ventral view of Deans other specimen as correct me if im wrong dean is the only other person that bought a couple of this sp in the uk from the BTS show? and if there were a majority of males for sale at the BTS show he may have 2 males? or may have struck lucky and got a pair? Im not a great fan of sexing via non kin examination as I was cock sure I had a male pokie once until it ended up producing a bogus egg sac