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Arachnoprince
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Ridiculous................ Vets cant perform emergency surgury for certain animals until consent is given?? Read the article..
 
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herpguy

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This is not good.
CT is a state where everything passes. Some wannabe zoologist made this up, who obviously has no idea what he is doing.
Pet elephant or hippo, that's a no-brainer, but an arachnid, come on!
Also, that is true that if you try to contact legislation you will be the first person that they will come to. It is best to try to get help through PIJAC.
-Dave
 
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ghost6303

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bob.wilson@wtnh.com
http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/about_us/Names_addresses_and_phone_numbers

I suggest everyone email this guy and give him your oppinion on the subject. I just typed up a legnthy response to it. Please keep the language professional so we dont come off sounding like whiney 12 year olds (dont just send an email full of swears and hate messages).

This is a terrible thing that is happening and we all need to stop it for the sake of the hobby.
 
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spiderslight

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OMG this is so stupid i just want to punch stupid people in the face. i wish that people would do research into what is actually a dangerous animal before they start to group it with other things.
 
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Flower

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Wow. I hope those laws don't spread to other states.

"People get them and think they make great exotic pets, but it gets so big, so large so fast that they end up being let go in public." Wow...people do that with puppies also, that grow up to be vicious and dangerous strays. <_< It's not exclusive to "exotics". Also remind me what they are paying their editors for? Obviously not correcting bad grammar.

Pretty soon all that will be left in the world to enjoy legally as pets will be friggin' Labradors. B-O-R-I-N-G.
 
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Atreyuhero4

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And I quote "adds the following animals to the list of potentially dangerous animals, the posseson which is prohibited......rinocerous, elephants, various dangerous snakes such as pythons" and quote

1. Good thing this isint in Ohio or I would have to get rid of the elephant and rinocerous I smuggled over here in my pants....

2. Omg watch out for those dangerous ball pythons they kill people you know ;)
 
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Atreyuhero4

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ghost6303 said:
http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/news_wtnh_count_on_8_investigation_exotic_pets_200903232247_rev1

recent news story on this.
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"Everything from Emperor Scorpions to a King Baboon Taranchula"

Can someone please tell me what a Taranchula is?:? Im glad we have educated people doing the news:clap:


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"We have picked up scorpions at the airport," said King. "And, taranchulas from grocery stores."

They are dangerous, deadly and illegal exotic animals and are more common than you might think."

Uhhh?

"Milford police seized an exotic collection of venomous spiders and scorpions in a home earlier this month. They were taken by Cindy King at the Children's Museum in West Hartford."

Im sure that if they tried taking my collected there would be human casualties ;) I kid :p

"So, why do people buy these animals?

"People just buy these animals; they are very small when they get them at the pet store," said King. "They think they are going to be very exciting to have and they get them home and they get really, really large; they get out of control."

Someone please help me My rosie is huge and on a rampage!!! Im going to have to release it into the "public" :p

"DEP is going to recommend stronger laws, with tougher penalties, but they worry animal lovers will not heed the warnings."

They got one thing correct :)

Now I do agree owning a alligator as a pet is a bit rediculas!

Seriously how can anyone take what these people say if they can't even spell things right.
 
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Please, everybody who is not in CT, please contact the people in charge of this bill. If this passes, if will create a backlash that will affect you too.
-Dave
 
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LeilaNami

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My name is Jessica Azzinnari. I am not a CT resident but I have read your piece of legislation and many of the animals that have been suggested to be banned are in no way dangerous.
1. Suidae. 16 species are recognized and two are domestic pigs. They in fact make wonderful pets, can very well be domesticated, and are smart like a dog. There is really no need to ban the domestic species as there have been no deaths attributed to them in many many years.
2.Any venomous snake and large snake families. Responsible owners should be able to keep these animals. It seems that since you find a few nutty, irresponsible ones, you felt the need to put a ban on these snakes. Please punish the irresponsible owners instead of the rest of us who keep our snakes in very secure enclosures as well as take safety precautions in order to care for them. Deaths by any of these animals especially the larger constrictors are very rare. Honestly, how many deaths can you attribute to these snakes? It is because owners of these snakes know what their doing and never ever handle a large specimen alone. As far as venomous snakes, a responsible owner orders their own antivenin in the case of a rare bite if it even happens at all. The fact that rear-fanged snakes are banned is odd. The envenomation process for these snakes is very difficult because they have to chew and most have very mild venom to begin with.
3.Monitors. These are not dangerous lizards. Large? Yes. Dangerous? No. At least with the exception of the Komodo which has already been banned and is protected through CITES.
4.Arachnids. There has never ever been a recorded death directly related to a tarantula bite. I personally own them. I have never been bitten because I respect my animals. Some species can cause a lot of pain but death is highly unlikely. They will also not be an invasive species because there would be no other tarantula even in the same genus to be able to breed with. There are some species of medically significant scorpions but responsible owners would never handle them and always keep them in secure enclosures. The same goes for medically significant true spiders such as Phoneutria ssp. from Central and South America and even the native spiders.
5.Genet. There is also no need to ban this animal. They are a little skittish but otherwise can be tamed down to a reasonable level. I've been in a lot of contact with these and the worst they can do is give a bite like a cat.
6.Dendrobatidae, These are in no way dangerous when kept in captivity. They cannot synthesize their own venom and get it from the prey eaten in the wild. Without eating the specific prey, no venom will be produced.

I can understand the concern with keeping exotics especially with the recent python and chimp incidents. However, this reaction is extreme. This is a punishment to those who have been responsible all along and have had necessary permits required to keep some of these. Instead of punishing them, why can't you crack down on those keeping permit-required animals without the permit? The lady with the chimp did not have a safe facility to keep it, nor did she keep a tranq gun or even a gun in general if the animal did decide to attack. She is the reason a woman was severely injured. The animals I mentioned are kept because they are beautiful and fascinating specimens, NOT because we think they are cool and we want to see them get big. I respect all my animals as do many of the people in your state. Please rethink this considering you are planning to ban harmless animals with this bill.
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This is my letter. Anything I should change before I hit send?
 
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That doesn't affect me in any way, but it still makes me angry as hell. It's unbelievable how they can pass laws that are based on their own misconceptions and nothing else.
 
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ghost6303

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LeilaNami said:
This is my letter. Anything I should change before I hit send?
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its good except for one point that no one seems to be realizing, even the people who reported on this and should have done their homework before going on TV about it- IT IS NOT (yet) ILLEGAL to keep tarantulas or scorpions in connecticut. you do not need a permit or any permission. it is only illegal to sell them, which is why you dont see T's in any pet stores here. It is currently legal to have them in your home as pets- until they pass this new bill.
 
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LeilaNami

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ghost6303 said:
its good except for one point that no one seems to be realizing, even the people who reported on this and should have done their homework before going on TV about it- IT IS NOT (yet) ILLEGAL to keep tarantulas or scorpions in connecticut. you do not need a permit or any permission. it is only illegal to sell them, which is why you dont see T's in any pet stores here. It is currently legal to have them in your home as pets- until they pass this new bill.
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...which is why I'm writing the letter. I addressed animals that he is trying to make illegal and that includes venomous arachnids.
 
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burmish101

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Funny thing domestic dogs and cats cause TONS more injuries than any other pets have in the u.s. So if they pass that bill i'd suggest to ban dogs and cats too lol, since theyre more dangerous. Obviously the legislators have no knowledge about anything but common pets so they make irrational decisions based on fear and misunderstanding/myths.
 
Big Red TJ

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what about an on-line petition and getting multiple boards to sign??
 
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