Best old World dwarf species?

[Butterbean83]

I've got A few species on the way including Pamphobeteus Sp Machala
Augacephalus ezendami
Orphnaecus Sp Cebu Small
and Thrixopelma pruriens so my question is more relating to the Orphnaecus Sp Cebu Small and how you rank it among old world dwarfs? Do you see them much. Are they good feeders? What are some other good old world dwarfs, I'm not a fan of the dwarf baboons so I'll say what are some other cool Asian dwarfs and how does this species rank among them?

 

[viper69]

AF I. mira- aka Blue Suede Shoes

• viper69
• Jul 10, 2018
• 3
• blue foot baboon tarantula idiothele idiothele mira mira

I mira

 

[Butterbean83]

I never knew these were a dwarf species? Nice though, they build a trap door don't they and I think only one new world species does that besides these

I never knew these were a dwarf species? Nice though, they build a trap door don't they and I think only one new world species does that besides these

I know these are old world but I mean there is a new world species, I forget the name of it now is it T seladonia?

 

[Andrew Clayton]

I never knew these were a dwarf species? Nice though, they build a trap door don't they and I think only one new world species does that besides these

Yip I think it's only the I. Mira and T. Seladonia that do it.

I've got A few species on the way including Pamphobeteus Sp Machala
Augacephalus ezendami
Orphnaecus Sp Cebu Small
and Thrixopelma pruriens so my question is more relating to the Orphnaecus Sp Cebu Small and how you rank it among old world dwarfs? Do you see them much. Are they good feeders? What are some other good old world dwarfs, I'm not a fan of the dwarf baboons so I'll say what are some other cool Asian dwarfs and how does this species rank among them?

I only know of one other Asian dwarf the Phlogiellus baeri I'm sure there are a couple dwarf species in this genus though just can't remember lol

 

[NMTs]

OW dwarves, Asian - Psednocnemis, Coremiocnemis (not pictured), Ornithoctoninae (sp. Hana, sp. Veronica dwarf, sp. HonSej), Ornithoctonus sp. Ranong blue (borderline dwarf, around 4" max). All of which have fossorial tendencies.

0.1 Ornithoctoninae sp. Veronica Dwarf - 2.5" DLS

• NMTs
• Sep 9, 2024
• ornithoctoninae ornithoctoninae sp. veronica dwarf veronica dwarf

Not flashy, but fast and feisty. Very fast and very feisty, actually.

0.1 Ornithoctoninae sp. Hana - 3.25" DLS

• NMTs
• Dec 27, 2024
• female ornithoctoninae ornithoctoninae sp. "hana" sp. hana

Subadult female. Need to get one more molt from her...

0.1 Psednocnemis brachyramosa - 3.25" DLS

• NMTs
• Sep 9, 2024
• 1
• brachyramosa coremiocnemis brachyramosa malaysian blue dwarf psednocnemis psednocnemis brachyramosa

Oooh, aaah... She's got attitude to match her looks.

0.1 Ornithoctonus sp. Ranong blue - 2.25" DLS

• NMTs
• Aug 12, 2024
• 3
• juvenile female ornithoctoninae sp. "ranong blue" ornithoctonus ranong blue

This young female is starting to show some nice blue. She molted about a week ago.

OW dwarves, African - Brachionopus, Harpactirella, Heterothele, Idiothele, Eucratoscelus. Most are fossorial, some are heavy webbing and will spend more time in the open when properly set up.

0.1 Heterothele sp. Zanzibar - 2" DLS

• NMTs
• Oct 8, 2024
• 3
• dwarf baboon heterothele heterothele sp. zanzibar sp. zanzibar

Confirmed female, super fast and skittish. Blink and you'll miss her, lol.

0.1 Eucratoscelus pachypus - 1.25" DLS

• NMTs
• Sep 19, 2024
• 3
• eucratoscelus eucratoscelus pachypus feather-star-sea-creature female sling pachypus

Her butt is so big the camera can't focus on it, lol. I predict a molt in the near(ish) future.

0.1 Brachionopus pretoriae - 2.125" DLS

• NMTs
• Feb 3, 2024
• 3
• brachionopus brachionopus pretoriae female pretoriae south african gold speck

Young female, fast as greased lightning. Not defensive at all, though. Pretty little golden...

 

[jrh3]

OW dwarves, Asian - Psednocnemis, Coremiocnemis (not pictured), Ornithoctoninae (sp. Hana, sp. Veronica dwarf, sp. HonSej), Ornithoctonus sp. Ranong blue (borderline dwarf, around 4" max). All of which have fossorial tendencies.

0.1 Ornithoctoninae sp. Veronica Dwarf - 2.5" DLS

• NMTs
• Sep 9, 2024
• ornithoctoninae ornithoctoninae sp. veronica dwarf veronica dwarf

Not flashy, but fast and feisty. Very fast and very feisty, actually.

0.1 Ornithoctoninae sp. Hana - 3.25" DLS

• NMTs
• Dec 27, 2024
• female ornithoctoninae ornithoctoninae sp. "hana" sp. hana

Subadult female. Need to get one more molt from her...

0.1 Psednocnemis brachyramosa - 3.25" DLS

• NMTs
• Sep 9, 2024
• 1
• brachyramosa coremiocnemis brachyramosa malaysian blue dwarf psednocnemis psednocnemis brachyramosa

Oooh, aaah... She's got attitude to match her looks.

0.1 Ornithoctonus sp. Ranong blue - 2.25" DLS

• NMTs
• Aug 12, 2024
• 3
• juvenile female ornithoctoninae sp. "ranong blue" ornithoctonus ranong blue

This young female is starting to show some nice blue. She molted about a week ago.

OW dwarves, African - Brachionopus, Harpactirella, Heterothele, Idiothele, Eucratoscelus. Most are fossorial, some are heavy webbing and will spend more time in the open when properly set up.

0.1 Heterothele sp. Zanzibar - 2" DLS

• NMTs
• Oct 8, 2024
• 3
• dwarf baboon heterothele heterothele sp. zanzibar sp. zanzibar

Confirmed female, super fast and skittish. Blink and you'll miss her, lol.

0.1 Eucratoscelus pachypus - 1.25" DLS

• NMTs
• Sep 19, 2024
• 3
• eucratoscelus eucratoscelus pachypus feather-star-sea-creature female sling pachypus

Her butt is so big the camera can't focus on it, lol. I predict a molt in the near(ish) future.

0.1 Brachionopus pretoriae - 2.125" DLS

• NMTs
• Feb 3, 2024
• 3
• brachionopus brachionopus pretoriae female pretoriae south african gold speck

Young female, fast as greased lightning. Not defensive at all, though. Pretty little golden...

WOW, that brachyramosa is stunning. I never looked at them and didn't know they were dwarfs. How do you like keeping her?

 

[NMTs]

WOW, that brachyramosa is stunning. I never looked at them and didn't know they were dwarfs. How do you like keeping her?

She's fun to keep! I don't see much of her in the open as she's 100% fossorial, but when I do it's a treat. She's in a 1QT round food storage container and her burrow spirals all the way around it to the bottom, so I can see her making her way up and down.



She eats very well and has grown quickly. This one has a bit of an attitude and is not shy about giving threat poses, but ultimately she'll choose to bolt when pressed. I learned the hard way when it took me 40 minutes to find her after she took off during a rehousing. She was on the underside of a table, lol.

If you have an opportunity to get one, I recommend it!

 

[viper69]

I've got A few species on the way including Pamphobeteus Sp Machala
Augacephalus ezendami
Orphnaecus Sp Cebu Small
and Thrixopelma pruriens so my question is more relating to the Orphnaecus Sp Cebu Small and how you rank it among old world dwarfs? Do you see them much. Are they good feeders? What are some other good old world dwarfs, I'm not a fan of the dwarf baboons so I'll say what are some other cool Asian dwarfs and how does this species rank among them?

Also

Sahydroaraneus raja- quite a few peeps own these globally.

I never knew these were a dwarf species? Nice though, they build a trap door don't they and I think only one new world species does that besides these

I mira Feeding 2 of 3

• viper69
• Jul 16, 2016
• 8

You can catch them following prey underground, as prey walks on the surface

 

[Butterbean83]

OW dwarves, Asian - Psednocnemis, Coremiocnemis (not pictured), Ornithoctoninae (sp. Hana, sp. Veronica dwarf, sp. HonSej), Ornithoctonus sp. Ranong blue (borderline dwarf, around 4" max). All of which have fossorial tendencies.

0.1 Ornithoctoninae sp. Veronica Dwarf - 2.5" DLS

• NMTs
• Sep 9, 2024
• ornithoctoninae ornithoctoninae sp. veronica dwarf veronica dwarf

Not flashy, but fast and feisty. Very fast and very feisty, actually.

0.1 Ornithoctoninae sp. Hana - 3.25" DLS

• NMTs
• Dec 27, 2024
• female ornithoctoninae ornithoctoninae sp. "hana" sp. hana

Subadult female. Need to get one more molt from her...

0.1 Psednocnemis brachyramosa - 3.25" DLS

• NMTs
• Sep 9, 2024
• 1
• brachyramosa coremiocnemis brachyramosa malaysian blue dwarf psednocnemis psednocnemis brachyramosa

Oooh, aaah... She's got attitude to match her looks.

0.1 Ornithoctonus sp. Ranong blue - 2.25" DLS

• NMTs
• Aug 12, 2024
• 3
• juvenile female ornithoctoninae sp. "ranong blue" ornithoctonus ranong blue

This young female is starting to show some nice blue. She molted about a week ago.

OW dwarves, African - Brachionopus, Harpactirella, Heterothele, Idiothele, Eucratoscelus. Most are fossorial, some are heavy webbing and will spend more time in the open when properly set up.

0.1 Heterothele sp. Zanzibar - 2" DLS

• NMTs
• Oct 8, 2024
• 3
• dwarf baboon heterothele heterothele sp. zanzibar sp. zanzibar

Confirmed female, super fast and skittish. Blink and you'll miss her, lol.

0.1 Eucratoscelus pachypus - 1.25" DLS

• NMTs
• Sep 19, 2024
• 3
• eucratoscelus eucratoscelus pachypus feather-star-sea-creature female sling pachypus

Her butt is so big the camera can't focus on it, lol. I predict a molt in the near(ish) future.

0.1 Brachionopus pretoriae - 2.125" DLS

• NMTs
• Feb 3, 2024
• 3
• brachionopus brachionopus pretoriae female pretoriae south african gold speck

Young female, fast as greased lightning. Not defensive at all, though. Pretty little golden...

I didn't know E pachypus where that small what is their max legspan?

I like H sp Zanzibar that's beautiful. What New world species are good feeders, fast growers and stay out a bit aswell because I think I'd get one of these species and an old world dwarf, I will still have large and closer to average sized species also. Been wanting too many big species and think I've overlooked some dwarf species.

I mira is a possibility just because of its quite unique behaviour.

Any experience with the new world species Phorxitrichus scrofa?

 

[NMTs]

I didn't know E pachypus where that small what is their max legspan?

I like H sp Zanzibar that's beautiful. What New world species are good feeders, fast growers and stay out a bit aswell because I think I'd get one of these species and an old world dwarf, I will still have large and closer to average sized species also. Been wanting too many big species and think I've overlooked some dwarf species.

I mira is a possibility just because of its quite unique behaviour.

Any experience with the new world species Phorxitrichus scrofa?

An adult female E. pachypus will be about 3.5" DLS. They're fossorial and so don't need an enclosure with lots of floor space. I'm all about dwarf species - lots of bang for your buck!

Heterothele sp. Zanzibar, H. gabonensis, and H. villosella are all beautiful species that behave similarly - tons of webbing, lightening fast. All recommended.

There's another thread running with ideas for other dwarf species, many of which are NW:

Beginner to immediate dwarf species

Hello, I am getting back into keeping Ts and would like some recommendations on some dwarf species. I ordered a Homeomma Chilense and it will be here soon But would like some other suggestions. Would like other that spend at least some times In view. Looking for terrestrial, arboreal. And...

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I've never kept P. scrofa because I've read that they're extremely difficult to keep alive in captivity. Given the price tag, it seemed like a risk not worth taking...

 

[Requiem4aSpleen]

C olivaceum seem like really interesting ow dwarf species. Maybe not considered a true dwarf, but having a T common in the middle east is pretty cool. And I guess they have some attitude too from what I've read

 

[Butterbean83]

I'm not as clued up on Old world Dwarf species as I am with the New World Dwarf species. What are some cool old world species. The only species I know of are:

Heterothele villosella
Orphnaecus Sp Cebu
Heterothele gabonensis
Harpactirella overdijki

Please comment any more that you know, if you've got pics that's even better and what you like about them if you feel like elaborating on those species.

 

[viper69]

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AF I. mira- aka Blue Suede Shoes

• viper69
• Jul 10, 2018
• 3
• blue foot baboon tarantula idiothele idiothele mira mira

I mira

 

[Butterbean83]

That's a cool species I didn't really think of this one as it's more a borderline dwarf species isn't it? Does it get to about Chaetopelma olivaceum size? I hear Augacephalus ezendami can be quite small but not small enough to be considered dwarf species... Is it 8 or 10 CM that I Mira get to? Great looking species with the unique trapdoor behaviour

 

[regalpaws]

That's a cool species I didn't really think of this one as it's more a borderline dwarf species isn't it? Does it get to about Chaetopelma olivaceum size? I hear Augacephalus ezendami can be quite small but not small enough to be considered dwarf species... Is it 8 or 10 CM that I Mira get to? Great looking species with the unique trapdoor behaviour

Yeah, these guys are pretty cool. A very arid species. Trapdoors start even very young.

 

[cold blood]

That's a cool species I didn't really think of this one as it's more a borderline dwarf species isn't it? Does it get to about Chaetopelma olivaceum size? I hear Augacephalus ezendami can be quite small but not small enough to be considered dwarf species... Is it 8 or 10 CM that I Mira get to? Great looking species with the unique trapdoor behaviour

Ezendami get twice the size of I. mira....in fact, incei are bigger than mira

 

[Glorfindel]

I choose is Idiothele mira, the dwarf bluefoot baboon because its a very cool trapdoor tarantula