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good idea. im definitely going to try this method.
Effects of chilling could be more insidious, i.e. not immediately noticeable. For some inverts- a published and somewhat relevant example being some tropical Lepidoptera- chilling renders males permanently sterile! I mention tropical because it is the lack of an ability to endure any amount of cold which makes some Lepidoptera chill-able and others not. T's of course are more or less tropical in this regard. 4 degrees C is quite cold for any of them, which is the average temperature of a household fridge maybe 8 C for an inefficient older model that is leaky.I have never heard anything negative about chilling T's either, since all it does it slow their metabolism significantly enough to reduce their movement speed. I really like this method of transfer though, not really much risk as long as you keep your eye on where the T is during the process. Good thread, good pictures!
I've always been of the opinion that if you're not comfortable enough to rehouse the spider without resorting to chilling it in the fridge or freezer, or whatever your method for chilling it, then you're not ready to own that species.Effects of chilling could be more insidious, i.e. not immediately noticeable. For some inverts- a published and somewhat relevant example being some tropical Lepidoptera- chilling renders males permanently sterile! I mention tropical because it is the lack of an ability to endure any amount of cold which makes some Lepidoptera chill-able and others not. T's of course are more or less tropical in this regard. 4 degrees C is quite cold for any of them, which is the average temperature of a household fridge maybe 8 C for an inefficient older model that is leaky.
Of course you might not ever know this- you might just think your male is a dud, he might be eaten before he gets a chance to pair, you might just mistake it for a failed pairing for one reason or another. I would be extremely hesitant to chill any T's with this in mind, at least if you intend to breed these T's or to pass them along to anyone else who may or may not want their T to be sexually functional. It might not happen 100% of the time (or at all), but the chance you might be selling someone a cold-sterilized MM P. metallica for no small sum is enough to make me very leery of purchasing from breeders//dealers who practice this method of subduing a feisty T.
In complete agreement.I've always been of the opinion that if you're not comfortable enough to rehouse the spider without resorting to chilling it in the fridge or freezer, or whatever your method for chilling it, then you're not ready to own that species.
I second that! I remember seeing it when it resurfaced in march but I had to dig for it this time lolWe need a sticky for this thread![]()