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Discussion in 'Tarantula Questions & Discussions' started by CEC, Mar 3, 2017.

  1. CEC

    CEC Arachnoangel Arachnosupporter

    Last edited: Mar 3, 2017
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  2. Andrea82

    Andrea82 Arachnoemperor Active Member

    Thanks for posting!

    Oh my, this is going to cause a confusion and muttering.....:p
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  3. Chris LXXIX

    Chris LXXIX ArachnoGod Active Member

    I protest :rage: this is an armed assault against Latin by the arachno-pundits. No more 'bird eater' (Avicularia) all of a sudden but Caribena :banghead:

    Plus Ibyrapora :banghead: :banghead:

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  4. petkokc

    petkokc Arachnosquire

    I was waiting for someone to post this :D
    Now, who will make a full list of changes? :p
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  5. DSCPL

    DSCPL Arachnopeon

    Rabble rabble rabble
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  6. At this rate the label-maker will need re-labelled.:confused:
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  7. Andrea82

    Andrea82 Arachnoemperor Active Member

  8. mygale

    mygale Arachnoknight

    [​IMG]Caribena gen. n. and Ybyrapora gen. n. by mygale, auf Flickr

    • Avicularia avicularia (Linnaeus, 1758)
    • Avicularia glauca Simon, 1891
    • Avicularia variegata (F. O. Pickard-Cambridge, 1896), stat. n.
    • Avicularia minatrix Pocock, 1903
    • Avicularia taunayi (Mello-Leitão, 1920)
    • Avicularia juruensis Mello-Leitão, 1923
    • Avicularia rufa Schiapelli & Gerschman, 1945
    • Avicularia purpurea Kirk, 1990
    • Avicularia hirschii Bullmer, Thierer-Lutz & Schmidt, 2006
    • Avicularia merianae sp. n.
    • Avicularia lynnae sp. n.
    • Avicularia caei sp. n.
    Doesn't exist anymore (nomen dubium) or transferred into other genera (com. nov)
    • Avicularia vestiaria (De Geer, 1778), nomen nudum
    • Iridopelma leporina (C. L. Koch, 1841), comb. n., nomen dubium
    • Iridopelma plantaris (C. L. Koch, 1842), comb. n., nomen dubium
    • Euathlus affinis (Nicolet, 1849), comb. n.
    • Ischnocolus hirsutum Ausserer, 1875, nomen dubium
    • Avicularia metallica Ausserer, 1875, nomen dubium
    • Ischnocolus gracilis Keyserling, 1891, nomen dubium
    • Grammostola subvulpina (Strand, 1906), comb. n.
    • Avicularia arabica (Strand, 1908), nomen dubium
    • Thrixopelma aymara (Chamberlin, 1916), comb. n.
    • Avicularia aurantiaca Bauer, 1996, nomen dubium
    • Araneus hirtipes (Fabricius, 1787), nomen dubium
    • Avicularia testacea (C. L. Koch, 1841), nomen dubium
    • Avicularia detrita (C. L. Koch, 1842), nomen dubium
    • Avicularia hirsutissima (C. L. Koch, 1842), nomen dubium
    • Avicularia holmbergi Thorell, 1890, nomen dubium
    • Ischnocolus doleschalli Ausserer, 1871, nomen dubium
    • Avicularia rapax (Ausserer, 1875), nomen dubium
    • Avicularia ochracea (Perty, 1833), nomen dubium
    • Avicularia walckenaerii (Perty, 1833), nomen dubium
    • Avicularia azuraklaasi Tesmoingt, 1996, nomen dubium
    • Avicularia braunshauseni Tesmoingt 1999, nomen dubium
    • Avicularia geroldi Tesmoingt, 1999, nomen dubium
    • Avicularia huriana Tesmoingt, 1996, nomen dubium
    • Avicularia ulrichea Tesmoingt, 1996, nomen dubium
    • Avicularia soratae Strand, 1907, nomen dubium
    • Avicularia fasciculata Strand, 1907, nomen dubium
    • Avicularia fasciculata clara Strand, 1907, nomen dubium
    • Avicularia surinamensis Strand, 1907, nomen dubium
    The new combinations:
    • Antillena rickwesti (Bertani & Huff, 2013) comb. n.
    • Caribena laeta (C. L. Koch, 1842), comb. n.
    • Caribena versicolor (Walckenaer, 1837), comb. n.
    • Ybyrapora sooretama (Bertani & Fukushima, 2009), comb. n.
    • Ybyrapora gamba (Bertani & Fukushima, 2009), comb. n.
    • Ybyrapora diversipes (C. L. Koch, 1842), comb. n.
    Quoted from here: https://vogelspinnenforum.ch/index....lysis-of-Avicularia-Lamarck-1818-Araneae-The/
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  9. petkokc

    petkokc Arachnosquire

    Only to make a video once everything is cleared :p
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  10. Andrea82

    Andrea82 Arachnoemperor Active Member

    Nomen dubium....meaning these can be revised as well in the near future :D
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  11. Venom1080

    Venom1080 Arachnoemperor

    So I'm seeing nomen dudium next to the aurantica, I just picked one up. If the name doesn't exsist anymore, what is is it? @mygale
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  12. elysium

    elysium Arachnosquire

    From Google

    In zoological nomenclature, a nomen dubium(Latin for "doubtful name", plural nomina dubia) is a scientific name that is of unknown or doubtful application. In bacteriological nomenclature, nomina dubia may be placed on the list of rejected names by the Judicial Commission. The meaning of these names is uncertain.

    What happens to my sp. Amazonica?
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  13. Paiige

    Paiige Arachnobaron

    "Ybyrapora" what a mouthful. Now I have to tell hubby his beloved versicolor is no longer an Avic and he's going to be so confused...
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  14. Jeff23

    Jeff23 Arachnolord Arachnosupporter

    Good question. I have ??? sp. Amazonica as well. It was already in la la land before now.
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  15. boina

    boina Lady of the mites Arachnosupporter

    Oh great. Well, I don't have an Avicularia anymore. I now have an... what was it? Ybyrapora. I'll have to practice that.
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  16. CEC

    CEC Arachnoangel Arachnosupporter

    The junior synonym species won't exist anymore, but the species that are considered nomen dubium (doubtful label) were not examined or holotypes/paratypes missing. Therefore, they couldn't be studied. Fukushima states "The Avicularia species considered nomina dubia and nomina nuda by World Spider Catalog (2016) do not have their status changed." So I expect the WSC will still have them listed.

    They state aurantiaca is most likely Avicularia rufa but they can't be sure because the holotype & paratype are missing.

    Also, they imply hobby juruensis is actually Avicularia rufa.
    "For many years the name A. juruensis has been applied to specimens that have vivid yellow leg rings and grizzled setae on legs and palps, that are commonly found in the states of Mato Grosso and Rondônia, Brazil. They have spermathecae with midwidth not expanded, developed prominence on palpal bulb and leg IV longer than leg I. However, A. juruensis syntypes have whitish leg rings and lack setae with conspicuous whitish apex on legs, spermathecae with midwidth expanded, palpal bulb with well-developed prominence, and leg IV as long as leg I. The characters found in these specimens formerly known as A. juruensis match, in fact, with those of A. rufa. Thus, we conclude the name A. juruensis is being mistakenly applied to specimens of A. rufa."

    The real juruensis maybe from the urticans complex or even sp. Peru Purple. I'm not sure.

    A. sp. Amazonica is possibly Avicularia variegata

    A. sp. Tarapoto is Avicularia merianae, I'm fairly certain of that, they are quite unique.

    *Remember this is just my take on the revision, I could be wrong. Until Avicularia hobby stock is examined, put your label makers down.
    The species with a new genus name, go ahead and relabel.
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  17. Yulian

    Yulian Arachnopeon

    Great... just when I was getting the hang of the genus names:banghead: I only know that I know nothing.
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  18. Moonohol

    Moonohol Two Legged Freak

    It's quite the mouthful but I think it's a fitting name for such a colorful and unique T!
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  19. boina

    boina Lady of the mites Arachnosupporter

    What I want to do - what I really, really want to do is do barcode sequencing from all hobby species and find out how they are related. Of course, it wouldn't be so easy to compare it to wild cought and taxonomically identified specimen, but at least you could sort out the hobby Ts.
  20. So my Avicularia rickwesti is now Antillena rickwesti? It is its own in the genus? :wacky:
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