Ant Colony in Roach Colony

Karifever

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As long as the enclosure is:
a) Watertight
b) The silicon corners won't melt or be damaged
c) The glass won't break, if possible don't pour it directly on the glass and try to heat it slightly first to reduce the risk of it breaking.

Many roaches would likely die (even if you remove most of them) but it should kill most of the ants, hopefully including the queen. You might also be able to use a dawn and water mix but I'm not sure if that would cause long-lasting effects. I agree with Edan that it would be easier just to redo the enclosure.
Makes sense, thanks for the heads-up on the glass. I think I’ll try pouring small amounts of boiling water at a time in the center of the substrate. Maybe I can put a heat mat around the glass first to heat it up from the outside first.
 

The Snark

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Our ant problem has lessened. Mom nature moved on to the next activity, mites. Will employ the ancient Chinese remedy, Tiger balm and firecrackers*. I'm fed up with the Mynas anyway.

* Not recommended for ants.
 

MantidMaster

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Unrelated to the ant problem, but I'd like to make some clarifications regarding ant biology.

As for eradicating the ants, every chamber that harbors a queen and eggs must be found and destroyed. Otherwise the ant colony will produce more queens. Ants automatically utilize parthenogenesis to maintain the colony.
The bolded statement is likely untrue. Most species of ant queens can not employ parthenogenesis to create worker ants under normal circumstances, though similar biology in which mating within the nest may occur is prevalent in species such as Stigmatomma pallipes, where males produced from one nest will mate and sexually fertilize with female alates of the same nest. However, depending on the maturity, species and conditions the ant colony is exposed to, reproduction rate within the bioactive enclosure could be so fast that it'd seem that these little creatures are parthenogenetic.


As other forum members have already stated, ants are rather vicious. My colony of Novomessor cockerelli will attempt to shred anything that moves in the outworld to pieces. I would personally start fresh. Take as many roaches as you can out of the enclosure, along with as many samples of bioactive substrate or whatnot out of the container, and just clean out the enclosure. Ants can't magically teleport out of a glass box, haha. Commensalism is a very rare occurrence between predators and what would usually be prey. Also, try to get an ID for the ants in the enclosure... for curiosity's sake.
 

The Snark

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Ants can't magically teleport out of a glass box, haha.
Want to bet? Among the 20 or 30 species in and around our home there is at least one variety that can teleport. At a rough guess a cross between Alien, a lantern fish, and a great white shark. Roughly 3 times the size of the average bacterium and top flight experts in the formulation and use of chemical warfare agents. My coffee cup is balanced precariously on the books to my left because if placed on the low table to my right it will fill up with those ants in roughly 3 minutes. Where they come from has to be a teleportation gate from a parallel universe since everything in this room has been scrupulously scrubbed, vacuumed and isolated around 50 times.

We also have other species that have chewed through the grout between the ceramic tiles to get at the cat food and another species that over the years have hollowed out several cubic feet of brick and mortar wall for their homes. I went to affix a water filter to that wall outside only to discover it was completely hollow.
 
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