African giant millipedes and Florida ivories?

[The Odd Pet]

I just set up a 25 gallon tank for my 2 pairs of A. gigas. I used this size tank for the height because one pair are full grown. I used a mix for the substrate that I found on a YouTube video. He actually got the recipe from a member on here "mickiem" but I added a few extra things for them.

My question is can I safely keep and breed my Florida ivories in with them?

Since this is now on display I would love to add some color and the Florida ivories are the most colorful ones I have ATM.

Also to anymore in the US with any larger species of millipedes that is looking to get into Isopods or just as to their collection I'm looking to trade. I have a pretty large collection of isopods so please pm me if you're interested.

 

[kjgalaxy]

I have Ivories in with my Africans. I have had one ivory about half grown get "run over" by my largest African. (It was in a narrow area between tree bark and wall and the little ivory I don't think had anywhere to go. The main issue is the size the difference. My ivories are breeding in the tank. I anticipate there being some issues when the little ones start running around on the surface rather than hiding in the soil. I'm going to watch and may, in the future, decide to move the babies to their own tank when they first hatch, or when they start getting active. At the moment, I'm just going to see what happens and keep a close eye on everyone.

So, in a general sense, yes, there is some risk the babies and young will get trompled. You can protect a large portion of them by relocating them once they hatch, or simply accept you'll potentially lose some of the young to the big guys. The full grown ivory don't typically have an issue and I think the one that did get run over was a one-off and I tried to rearrange the tank so that won't happen again.

 

[Arthroverts]

Yes, they should do fine with them; but as @kjgalaxy said, there is a possibility of some young being trampled. However, in that large of an enclosure, and with how prolific Ivories are, I don't think you would have any serious losses.

I am looking for a Spirostreptus sp. "8" female to breed with my male , so if that works out and I get babies I'll let you know @The Odd Pet.

Thanks,

Arthroverts

 

[BepopCola]

I am looking for a Spirostreptus sp. "6" female to breed with my male , so if that works out and I get babies I'll let you know @The Odd Pet.

Thanks,

Arthroverts

Where did you find one of these?!
I want to get in on this too.

 

[Arthroverts]

Sorry, I meant sp. "8".
I have my sources . Let's just say that Roach Forum is awesome, and so is @Drteeth! I don't believe he has any more though. @Redmont was selling some a while back, but he has disappeared into the mist unfortunately.
Don't get your hopes up. I may or may not be able to find a female, and I currently don't have the cash to buy one outright. I'd have to trade/loan for it.

Thanks,

Arthroverts

 

[BepopCola]

My hopes and dreams...shattered.
sp. 8 is still cool though!

 

[The Odd Pet]

I have Ivories in with my Africans. I have had one ivory about half grown get "run over" by my largest African. (It was in a narrow area between tree bark and wall and the little ivory I don't think had anywhere to go. The main issue is the size the difference. My ivories are breeding in the tank. I anticipate there being some issues when the little ones start running around on the surface rather than hiding in the soil. I'm going to watch and may, in the future, decide to move the babies to their own tank when they first hatch, or when they start getting active. At the moment, I'm just going to see what happens and keep a close eye on everyone.

So, in a general sense, yes, there is some risk the babies and young will get trompled. You can protect a large portion of them by relocating them once they hatch, or simply accept you'll potentially lose some of the young to the big guys. The full grown ivory don't typically have an issue and I think the one that did get run over was a one-off and I tried to rearrange the tank so that won't happen again.

Thanks. I figured as much about babies. I have a whole other setup full of ivory babies already so I'll move any that surface there.

I might be getting some giant blue Asian millipedes. Could I just keep them all together? I would assume I could since they are the same size and would move any babies to a different enclosure.
I do have a 20 gallon tall I can use but I would either have less substrate or less room on top.
I also love the idea of having more color in the one tank.

@Arthroverts
I hope you find your Spirostreptus sp. 8 and get them breeding. I would love some of them.

 

[Arthroverts]

@BepopCola, this is the only other Sprirostreptus sp. I've found available in the US for a long time. I love them because they just get huge (as big as male AGBs), and the green is spectacular.

Just about a full 7 inches, and a lot thicker than any Orthoporus sp.


A comparison: Bumblebee on the bottom, Spirostreptus sp. "1" in the background.

I wish we could get sp. "6" though. When I can I want to try and get the permits to import and keep exotic millipedes.

Thanks,

Arthroverts

 

[The Odd Pet]

@BepopCola, this is the only other Sprirostreptus sp. I've found available in the US for a long time. I love them because they just get huge (as big as male AGBs), and the green is spectacular.
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Just about a full 7 inches, and a lot thicker than any Orthoporus sp.

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A comparison: Bumblebee on the bottom, Spirostreptus sp. "1" in the background.

I wish we could get sp. "6" though. When I can I want to try and get the permits to import and keep exotic millipedes.

Thanks,

Arthroverts

You don't keep them in deep substrate? That is a beauty. I want some Spirostreptus sp. #1. If you know anyone with them in the US let me know. I would love a few pairs of them. I have 10 gold and chocolate desserts coming this week along with more Florida ivories and Narceus americanus. I see babies from my Glomeris pustulata so I think I'm ready to get a new species of pill millipede.
I am applying for the permits while I'm doing my isopod permits.

 

[Arthroverts]

If you mean deep substrate as in the length of the millipede, no. I don't have enough leaves to mix into it for that, ha ha. They molt, eat, breed, and do fine however.

Mine are getting close to maturity, but no babies yet. I believe @mickiem sells them. I can also check to see which member I got mine from. She had hundreds of them and was selling them off for a great price. That was 2+ years ago however.

You have Glomeris pustulata? That is a species I'm hoping to get very soon if I can. I really need to stop hanging around Arachnoboards...

Permit-wise, I technically can't even get one right now. I'll have to wait a few years before I start that process. But when I do, you can be sure I'll be trying for a lot of exotic species if that's possible.

Thanks,

Arthroverts

 

[The Odd Pet]

If you mean deep substrate as in the length of the millipede, no. I don't have enough leaves to mix into it for that, ha ha. They molt, eat, breed, and do fine however.

Mine are getting close to maturity, but no babies yet. I believe @mickiem sells them. I can also check to see which member I got mine from. She had hundreds of them and was selling them off for a great price. That was 2+ years ago however.

You have Glomeris pustulata? That is a species I'm hoping to get very soon if I can. I really need to stop hanging around Arachnoboards...

Permit-wise, I technically can't even get one right now. I'll have to wait a few years before I start that process. But when I do, you can be sure I'll be trying for a lot of exotic species if that's possible.

Thanks,

Arthroverts

I was taking with mickiem and was supposed to be getting a few species but I haven't heard anything for awhile. If you can remember that would be awesome.

 

[Arthroverts]

It was @NDsnake.
http://arachnoboards.com/threads/shipping-millipedes.305509/

Thanks,

Arthroverts

 

[BepopCola]

Thanks. I figured as much about babies. I have a whole other setup full of ivory babies already so I'll move any that surface there.

I might be getting some giant blue Asian millipedes. Could I just keep them all together? I would assume I could since they are the same size and would move any babies to a different enclosure.
I do have a 20 gallon tall I can use but I would either have less substrate or less room on top.
I also love the idea of having more color in the one tank.

That's what I'm doing. I have a 20 gallon-high with a foot of substrate for 4 O. ornatus, 2 AGBs, and 1 blue Asian. This was originally my O. ornatus tank, but there's only ever one on the surface at a time (with weeks underground inbetween) so I just combined them.

I have a handful of baby Spiro.. sp. 1, BUT they got mixed in with some scarlet millipedes because of an accident while moving. I moved out all the scarlets I could see, but I can't tell the babies apart.

 

[BepopCola]

@BepopCola, this is the only other Sprirostreptus sp. I've found available in the US for a long time. I love them because they just get huge (as big as male AGBs), and the green is spectacular.

So pretty. I've been after green millipedes (and also arboreal millipedes) for a while.

 

[Arthroverts]

@BepopCola, I've seen some T. aoutii and D. macracanthus floating around, so with some searching I'm sure you could find some arboreal species available. My male sp. "8" tries to climb the glass a lot, so they might be a semi-arboreal/arboreal species as well.

Thanks,

Arthroverts

 

[kjgalaxy]

@BepopCola, I've seen some T. aoutii and D. macracanthus floating around, so with some searching I'm sure you could find some arboreal species available. My male sp. "8" tries to climb the glass a lot, so they might be a semi-arboreal/arboreal species as well.

Thanks,

Arthroverts

I'm looking to find a couple T aoutii. I have 1 and would love to get more. It's so very pretty. If you see any for sale, let me know!!!

 

[BepopCola]

@BepopCola, I've seen some T. aoutii and D. macracanthus floating around, so with some searching I'm sure you could find some arboreal species available. My male sp. "8" tries to climb the glass a lot, so they might be a semi-arboreal/arboreal species as well.

Thanks,

Arthroverts

I have a male D. macracanthus, I'm looking for some females, I saw some for sale around May, but it was too hot for shipping and I missed them. D. macracanthus are probably my favorite millipede right now. They remind me of a bike chain, and I love how their leg color stands out so much.

 

[Arthroverts]

@kjgalaxy, will do! I'm thinking we should start a millipede group so that we can share this info without having to dig up old threads, but I need to slow my roll with creating new clubs .

@BepopCola, @mickiem was selling some a few months back.
A bike chain huh? I haven't heard that one before...

Thanks,

Arthroverts

 

[The Odd Pet]

Sorry, I meant sp. "8".
I have my sources . Let's just say that Roach Forum is awesome, and so is @Drteeth! I don't believe he has any more though. @Redmont was selling some a while back, but he has disappeared into the mist unfortunately.
Don't get your hopes up. I may or may not be able to find a female, and I currently don't have the cash to buy one outright. I'd have to trade/loan for it.

Thanks,

Arthroverts

Hey what roach forum are you on?

 

[Arthroverts]

@The Odd Pet, Allpets Roach Forum. http://www.roachforum.com/

Thanks,

Arthroverts