Without me seeing how the original packing was I can't really say one way or the other. I was just speaking in general. Even with good packing if a box is impacted with enough force it'll still cause impact damage.
Exactly! We see Ts all the time on this forum, in our own care, that appear healthy and poof they die out of nowhere. I had a healthy (so I thought), 2.5" female C. marshalli, she was eating/drinking normally since she was sling. She climbed a few millimeters above the sub, and after the 2nd day (not unusual for her at times- who doesn't want out of their prison at some point
)of being vertical I carefully prodded her w/a probe only to see her fall back dead as a door nail. She wasn't even shipped.
I've had a few DOAs myself for slings from top T shippers in the nation, it happens. There's no predicting which one will survive and which one won't with 100% certainty. At least the vendor has more of the species you want, some don't always have more.
Excellent point. And with extremely small slings it is hard to tell if there is damage. Most of us see a moving sling and immediately get it into its new home without having a medical exam for the T.Exactly! We see Ts all the time on this forum, in our own care, that appear healthy and poof they die out of nowhere. I had a healthy (so I thought), 2.5" female C. marshalli, she was eating/drinking normally since she was sling. She climbed a few millimeters above the sub, and after the 2nd day (not unusual for her at times- who doesn't want out of their prison at some point
Point being we observe these black boxes w/ 8 legs all the time, and often times have no way of knowing things aren't healthy until it's too late. This is the case with exotics almost all the time, DVMs report this constantly in the literature.
Perhaps this sling had a malformed exoskeleton internally and a slight change in pressure was all it took to kill it.
According to the buyer, the Ts were packed the same as the rest. 3 out of 4 arrived fine.
That is more like it! They did it right.
The vendor did the RIGHT thing. It's important to report this type of info in the vendor's review.
Agreed. This vendor does not have a way to give reviews, though. I tried.
Odd, I left a review for the vendor. I forget, does one need enough posts to leave a review? @cold blood you remember this sort of stuff.
I went back to the site earlier today to leave a good review...there are no user reviews, no way to leave one, no FB page, nothing. The vendor that I got my B. boehemi and albopilosum from had a FB page, so I did leave a good review there.
I'm speaking of the vendor's username here on AB. Not personal website. Your vendor is Steve123.
I've heard speculation that changes in altitude can cause such a rupture, although rare, it may just be that they're vulnerable at a certain point in pre molt. It is pretty rare though, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, and its not always indicative of poor packing.
DOAs are really not very common, even in winter (as long as there are no delays and they are packed well). I know its frustrating, especially when it happens on one of a person's first orders.
A death isn't always because of a mistake or anyone's fault. Even perfect packing won't yield 100% perfect results.
Agreed, it happens sometimes, even if it is rare.
And there's my point, not only did the seller make it right, but he even added a second...in this case the DOA wasn't an indicator of bad anything, but the way it was handled showed a critical positive. Always give the seller a chance to make things right before you make hasty decisions and judgements.
I couldn't agree more. I remember I received a freebie PZB from a breeder, it was a gorgeous pink base color, but it was just about DOA. Aside from DOA, it was healthy looking in everyway, all other Ts in the shipment were mint.
I agree. I changed my tune after @viper69 gave me an example regarding what could happen after rough handling by the shipping company. What you are saying also makes sense. My initial thought was rough handling when placing the T in the vial.
I looked through there. I looked over my account options. I tried to find his profile, but I get a 'no results found' when I search for him. Not sure what else to try.
It was. He was very helpful throughout.
