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I can’t see the inside of the molt there, just the outside.
2nd moult in 3 months...
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Well... turn of events..
Took the plunge.
Her left side has again taken most damage. She is able to move around, all legs are there but not all working.
I haven't turned her over yet, thought i should let her recover a little first. She still isnt taking a drop of water from the brush or pippet. But i think she needs food?
I'll turn her tomorrow and see how her underside looks, and mouth.
When should I feed her? I know she needs to recover and a cricket could actually injure her?
I'm hoping she can survive now, and doesn't do this soon again to repair the damage...
I'm sorry about the photos, I didn't know about the full screen thing. I'm not very techno savvy, as they say....
I've added a video but she's not moving much, must exhausted poor girl
Took the plunge.
Her left side has again taken most damage. She is able to move around, all legs are there but not all working.
I haven't turned her over yet, thought i should let her recover a little first. She still isnt taking a drop of water from the brush or pippet. But i think she needs food?
I'll turn her tomorrow and see how her underside looks, and mouth.
When should I feed her? I know she needs to recover and a cricket could actually injure her?
I'm hoping she can survive now, and doesn't do this soon again to repair the damage...
I'm sorry about the photos, I didn't know about the full screen thing. I'm not very techno savvy, as they say....
I've added a video but she's not moving much, must exhausted poor girl
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I can’t see the vid, but she looks better. She won’t be able to eat until after her fangs are fully hardened (fully black = ready to attack). She’ll need a few more days at least. What she absolutely needs is water. Maybe try putting her mouth parts in a shallow dish of water? Her lungs are in her abdomen, so as long as her whole body isn’t in there, she’s not going to drown. If you do decide to give her water yourself, flip her over gently and put a drop of water on her mouth. Then wait and watch. You’re looking to see if it slowly gets smaller (this won’t be quick). If she does take it all in, giver her another. One at a time. You’re doing great. She’ll get rid of those legs herself if she needs to.
Less is more right now, it's time to put her home and leave her be.
I'd dampen a very generous portion of her substrate and place her there. I hate coco because the water just drains right though...they can drink from moist substrate though!
Put another water dish or 3 near her. You'll want to bury it it a bit so the edges are nearly flush with the substrate. Nice and wide so her whole carapace can fit.
She won't be able to eat or a while, it's going to feel counterintuitive but I promise she will be okay for a couple of weeks without food. Minimizing movement/metabolic demand and rehydration are your top priority.
Also you need to monitor the area for leaking hemolymph, it will be clearish, not red like our blood. Apply cornstarch to the area as carefully as possible STAY AWAY FROM THE BOOK LUNGS, MOUTH PARTS, AND ANUS....all bets will be off and y'all have come to far to go out that way.
Sorry I was AWOL today
I'd dampen a very generous portion of her substrate and place her there. I hate coco because the water just drains right though...they can drink from moist substrate though!
Put another water dish or 3 near her. You'll want to bury it it a bit so the edges are nearly flush with the substrate. Nice and wide so her whole carapace can fit.
She won't be able to eat or a while, it's going to feel counterintuitive but I promise she will be okay for a couple of weeks without food. Minimizing movement/metabolic demand and rehydration are your top priority.
Also you need to monitor the area for leaking hemolymph, it will be clearish, not red like our blood. Apply cornstarch to the area as carefully as possible STAY AWAY FROM THE BOOK LUNGS, MOUTH PARTS, AND ANUS....all bets will be off and y'all have come to far to go out that way.
Sorry I was AWOL today
Thank you all so much for your help and advice... saved again I hope.
That lump on her side seemed to be attached by a very small thread by her third left leg that is now stuck up in the air
One withered leg, and not so sure about her back leg that appears to have movement but it's slightly over to one side .....
It's the same 2 legs in trouble this time as last time
Tried her with a drop of water as advised, she was a very long time taking it in, but her abdomen now looks much better. Yesterday it looked quite deflated and small....
She's home now. 2 sunken water bowls, and a dampened corner of floor. She hasn't moved much, but she does have 2 good legs in the edge of a water bowl. Hope it's a good sign.
That lump on her side seemed to be attached by a very small thread by her third left leg that is now stuck up in the air
One withered leg, and not so sure about her back leg that appears to have movement but it's slightly over to one side .....
It's the same 2 legs in trouble this time as last time
Tried her with a drop of water as advised, she was a very long time taking it in, but her abdomen now looks much better. Yesterday it looked quite deflated and small....
She's home now. 2 sunken water bowls, and a dampened corner of floor. She hasn't moved much, but she does have 2 good legs in the edge of a water bowl. Hope it's a good sign.
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As long as she doesn't end up bleeding out, I am very hopeful.
I commend you for putting forth so much effort for her.
If anything else happens at this point, you must consider how short her last molt was, why it probably occurred (to repair something). This molt was textbook complicated. She may molt again on the sooner side, she may not...maybe it goes off without a hitch, maybe it won't. You did what you could, the rest is her. Feel very accomplished no matter what.
One of my favorite signatures here is from @TheSnark:
Yes. Of course I speak to just about any animal, honestly and sincerely.
"The animal may not understand your words, or even hear them. But many of them can read your heart." Horse gentler - whisperer axiom.
Thank you again.
I commend you for putting forth so much effort for her.
If anything else happens at this point, you must consider how short her last molt was, why it probably occurred (to repair something). This molt was textbook complicated. She may molt again on the sooner side, she may not...maybe it goes off without a hitch, maybe it won't. You did what you could, the rest is her. Feel very accomplished no matter what.
One of my favorite signatures here is from @TheSnark:
Yes. Of course I speak to just about any animal, honestly and sincerely.
"The animal may not understand your words, or even hear them. But many of them can read your heart." Horse gentler - whisperer axiom.
Thank you again.
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Bravo on all your efforts for your stunning girl! I hope to all that is good in this world that she fully recovers and yall enjoy each other's company for a long time to come
I'm keeping all of my senior girls on the 'not so fat' side as I'm so worried about them wanting to molt and it go wrong.
I'm keeping all of my senior girls on the 'not so fat' side as I'm so worried about them wanting to molt and it go wrong.
I am so grateful for your help and support.
I love this little spider, in tears at the thought of losing her. Though we all know it has to happen sometime, as with all pets. But not like this. I hate feeling helpless.
So fingers crossed she recovers now. And she doesn't decided to do this again very soon, don't think my nerves could take it....
Hopefully I'll be able to post another photo of a happy spider soon
Thank you.
And yes, I agree, animals can understand us more than they're given credit for I've seen that proven many times.
I love this little spider, in tears at the thought of losing her. Though we all know it has to happen sometime, as with all pets. But not like this. I hate feeling helpless.
So fingers crossed she recovers now. And she doesn't decided to do this again very soon, don't think my nerves could take it....
Hopefully I'll be able to post another photo of a happy spider soon
Thank you.
And yes, I agree, animals can understand us more than they're given credit for
I've seen that proven many times.
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Huge congrats on a job well done! Should anything ever happen with a molt again (crossing my fingers it does not), you are better equipped now to handle it. Please do keep us updated. We’d love to see her progress.
Hi lovely people,
She has made a good recovery, with 2 wonky legs. Her water bowls need replenishing regularly.
However, 4 days ago I gave her 1 cricket. Using long tweezers I put it in front of her. She made no attempt to get it. She even lifted her legs up to let it crawl under her? I left it for a couple of days, then took it out. I was worried it might harm her if it was hungry?
She normally eats the large medium black crickets, fair size. Should I try her with something else more tempting?
Thank you for any advice, and all your help.
xx
She has made a good recovery, with 2 wonky legs. Her water bowls need replenishing regularly.
However, 4 days ago I gave her 1 cricket. Using long tweezers I put it in front of her. She made no attempt to get it. She even lifted her legs up to let it crawl under her? I left it for a couple of days, then took it out. I was worried it might harm her if it was hungry?
She normally eats the large medium black crickets, fair size. Should I try her with something else more tempting?
Thank you for any advice, and all your help.
xx
In my experience, it's been one of two things: too dehydrated to eat, or not ready yet. I have an especially dramatic avic that worries me to the brink of my own starvation but it's just her MO. I like to think they know it's too soon, but for every suspected wise T I have a blithering idiot that would eat mid molt if it could (a genic, LP)
This species in particular (G porteri or G rosea) I wouldnt bat an eye of they didn't want to eat for a year. I'm serious. Don't sweat it. Definitely don't leave them in for more than 24 hours.
My guess is it's too soon
This species in particular (G porteri or G rosea) I wouldnt bat an eye of they didn't want to eat for a year. I'm serious. Don't sweat it. Definitely don't leave them in for more than 24 hours.
My guess is it's too soon
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The biggins can take a while before they feel up for eating after a molt.
Be patient and perhaps try a heavily wounded cricket or pre killed next attempt.
Be patient and perhaps try a heavily wounded cricket or pre killed next attempt.
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Id have to see a series of videos to believe that it's drinking that much. It's good that you are keeping up with making sure it does have water. Older bigger spiders, some will go a long long time before they are ready to eat after molting.
Hi,
My girl has made a good recovery so far, with 2 wonky legs.
Her water bowls need replenished regularly, she's drinking well.
But, I gave her 1 cricket a few days ago. She usually eats the larger black crickets not the smaller brown. She made no attempt to get it. She even lifted her legs so it could crawl under her.
After a couple of days I took it out, as she was climbing the glass wall, assuming she was trying to keep away from it.
Surely she needs to eat now. Should I try something else she'd find more tempting?
Worried again....
X
My girl has made a good recovery so far, with 2 wonky legs.
Her water bowls need replenished regularly, she's drinking well.
But, I gave her 1 cricket a few days ago. She usually eats the larger black crickets not the smaller brown. She made no attempt to get it. She even lifted her legs so it could crawl under her.
After a couple of days I took it out, as she was climbing the glass wall, assuming she was trying to keep away from it.
Surely she needs to eat now. Should I try something else she'd find more tempting?
Worried again....
X
FatBadBay
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Just keep offering food once a week. How long ago did she molt?
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NO, WAITHi,
My girl has made a good recovery so far, with 2 wonky legs.
Her water bowls need replenished regularly, she's drinking well.
But, I gave her 1 cricket a few days ago. She usually eats the larger black crickets not the smaller brown. She made no attempt to get it. She even lifted her legs so it could crawl under her.
After a couple of days I took it out, as she was climbing the glass wall, assuming she was trying to keep away from it.
Surely she needs to eat now. Should I try something else she'd find more tempting?
Worried again....
X
Shouldn't she be eating again by now? It's almost a month since her messy moult...
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How large leg span is it? a month is not that long for an adult or juvenile.Hi,
My girl has made a good recovery so far, with 2 wonky legs.
Her water bowls need replenished regularly, she's drinking well.
But, I gave her 1 cricket a few days ago. She usually eats the larger black crickets not the smaller brown. She made no attempt to get it. She even lifted her legs so it could crawl under her.
After a couple of days I took it out, as she was climbing the glass wall, assuming she was trying to keep away from it.
Surely she needs to eat now. Should I try something else she'd find more tempting?
Worried again....
X