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I voted yes but I only handle them when necessary. I do not for handle them for my own pleasure.
Mike
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Spider-man 2 said:No offense Mr. I, but I believe Apoc's statements are completely revelant to the thread. A lot of people handle thier Ts in belief and hope that they will form a "bond" with thier spider, when in actuality, that could never happen. Sometimes people form the illusion in thier head that from the behavior the T expesses and exhibits over time, insituates to some people that the T is getting "used" to being handled and seems more docile. All in your head people. Ts are unpredictable and will always be that way, for now.
Tarantulas are so primative and unevolved, that they don't even have what we consider a "brain". It is basically a cluster of ganglion and primate cells which makes them incapable of emotions or "attachments" to other organisms. All instinct.
To stay on topic, I do regularly handle my Ts as I do presenations for kids and it is far more interesting for them when I handle them, instead on show them in semi-transparent containers. I am always cautious and prepare for the worst when handling. I do not do it just to show off. I will admit that I do get some slight personal satisfaction from holding them. Holding a T gives me a very special feeling (the touch) that most people will never experience due to thier irrational arachnophobia. I know there is no benefit to the T in me handling it and puts it more at risk then anything. If it makes me selfish and stupid for putting a Ts life on the line for my pure enjoyment and education, then so be it, but I can say to this day, that none of my Ts has been injured due to this. *knock on wood* As long as you take the necessary precautions and proper handling techniques then usually nothing will go wrong.
No offense Kirdec, but I don't believe that Becca wanted this to turn into another debate. You have stated your opinion earlier and are now repling with nothing more than a re-iteration of your belief. That is what will turn this into another handling debate.Kirdec said:that was honest and I dont hav a word to add on that, im against handling, but you handle yours fora reason and you are enough honest to say what you really think
so, the odd occasion, like catching an escapee or poking a sling from one pot to another isn't deemed as 'handling regularly'For the purposes of this survey, handling your Ts means that you handle them on somewhat of a regular basis.
Actually, they're completely relevant to >>> This Thread <<<, because this one is a poll about whether or not you do or don't, not for getting into what has been discovered to be a pointless debate about instinct vs. intelligence. This topic has been beat to death to the point that I am locking any future threads on it and re-directing discussion to existing threads. If people want that to happen to this thread, the ball's in their court.Spider-man 2 said:No offense Mr. I, but I believe Apoc's statements are completely revelant to the thread. A lot of people handle thier Ts in belief and hope that they will form a "bond" with thier spider, when in actuality, that could never happen.
There is an arachnocultural difference between the USA and Europe IMO. This is a philosophical difference as illustrated by ATS vs. BTS. In the USA the mentality is I have the right to handle it, why not? In Europe the mentality is why handle it? I see both points of view and simply make that observation which I understand is a generalization. And like all sterotypes there are many exceptions.becca81 said:I know I've done something like this before, but this one has a little different twist on it. For the purposes of this survey, handling your Ts means that you handle them on somewhat of a regular basis.
I'm curious to know the differences in opinion between the US and the rest of the world. Of course, I'm not trying to imply that either is right or wrong.
I doubt any T can drop a human four feet to their death. However, I have to agree with your point that humans are unpredictable.bagheera said:Never.
Unless there is no other easy option. They can be upredictable, and a 4 foot drop can be ever so fatal !
Where are you deriving this information from? I'm only curious because my observation would suggest that there are as mixed opinions there as there are here. I am aware that the BTS recommends agains handling but I have seen an many European pics of keepers holding T's as American ones.Kid Dragon said:There is an arachnocultural difference between the USA and Europe IMO. This is a philosophical difference as illustrated by ATS vs. BTS. In the USA the mentality is I have the right to handle it, why not? In Europe the mentality is why handle it? I see both points of view and simply make that observation which I understand is a generalization. And like all sterotypes there are many exceptions.
Some of these pages show the handling of tarantulas as a key feature. The American Tarantula Society does not recommend handling tarantulas, but recognizes that many people do handle their pets and tries to provide the necessary information/advice for the safe handling of these animals.
my english is'nt perfect but, if I understand you correctly, you say that a T cant die of a 4 feet drop ... ?!Kid Dragon said:I doubt any T can drop a human four feet to their death. However, I have to agree with your point that humans are unpredictable.
On another topic, did you know that "gullible" is not in the dictionary.