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woijchik89

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protheus said:
When you said "cats video," I thought of the "musical" for a second... I knew musicals had to serve some purpose ;P

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Cats don't dance?

I was talking about an actual specialised video ment to entertian cats.
 

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protheus said:
Well, ok, since I mention her, behold the domesticated iguana. ;P This is Krishna; we adopted her from the humane society a while back. She's looking a little scruffy in this picture, which was the day we brought her home, but is actually getting much better.

Also, speaking of cats, the interplay between cats and a large lizard is amusing to say the least. Most interesting of all (and I should try to get a picture of this), my wife's cat likes to spend a lot of time with the lizards, to the point of sleeping near/on their cages. It was problematic at one point because whenever we opened the cage, the cat would go in, rather than the lizard coming out...

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If only my salamander was this big, then he could've ate the darn cat.
 

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woijchik89 said:
Cats don't dance?

I was talking about an actual specialised video ment to entertian cats.
I was making fun of the whole musical play/andrew lloyde weber/etc/etc thing...

About the iguana, yes, they can certainly defend themselves well. If they have a tail, they'll whip things with it, and they tend to have long claws (about 1/2" of which you can't even trim off...). One of ours scales brick walls with its claws. :) Krishna doesn't have her tail, but I wouldn't be too worried about the cats giving her any trouble.

They're absolutely frightened of her, anyway. Iguanas and cats tend to be communicative of their hostility towards each other, too. When they're iritated an iguana will make a hissing noise, not as loud as a cat's, but it gets the point across.

A salamander of that size probably wouldn't quite have the natural defense mechanisms of an iguana, but OTOH, a cat generally won't attack something that's close to its own size, unless it's just playing around. Instinct tells them that's a bad idea. ;)

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Actually I meant, how many of your own pet cats have u had? I mean, if youve had 10 cats for pets and they were all bad experiances for you, Im really sorry to hear that.

I agree, neighborhood cats can be a pain. Ive never really experianced this personally, except the time a cat in our neighborhood beat the crap out of our old cat COmet, I seriously wanted to harm that cat. I personally think cats should be kept indoors anyway. It greatly increases life expectancy.

Right now the only animal in my nieghborhood thats pissing me off is the nieghbors dogs. Our neighbor next door has this dog, that he takes outside to crap, and it STILL barks at us constantly even though we've lived there 7 years. It barks at everything! And down the road, every summer, our other neighbor puts out its small dog on the front yard and it stands out there and barks non stop for hours on end. Small dog yapping is worse than big dog barking. I dont totally hate all dogs, I like them on individual basis, and hate them on a individual-breed basis. Anyway, Im done here, I just wanted to respond to your last comment. :)
 

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I really hate cat, my girlfriend cat ate 4 of my emperor scorps, and now it has kittens that piss and crap on my bed daily. They make me so angry, I wish I could drowned them in bucket
 

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I've suggested that in the past, jessica won't let me. I gave the kittens a cute little nick-name: ''Snake food''
 

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lol, cat haters unite! There should be a board for us. ;)
 

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alright....I'm getting tired of monitoring this thread people.
please please please keep in mind that some people happen to like, or even love cats. talking about feeding them to snakes, and drowning them is offensive to some folks. I realize this is an ANTI cat thread, but please remember, if people were talking like that about tarantulas, lizards, and snakes...how would you feel?
keep this to your own personal 'bad cat' experiences please...or start your own cat hating forum SOMEWHERE ELSE.
 

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Spider_savior said:
Actually I meant, how many of your own pet cats have u had? I mean, if youve had 10 cats for pets and they were all bad experiances for you, Im really sorry to hear that.

I agree, neighborhood cats can be a pain. Ive never really experianced this personally, except the time a cat in our neighborhood beat the crap out of our old cat COmet, I seriously wanted to harm that cat. I personally think cats should be kept indoors anyway. It greatly increases life expectancy.

Right now the only animal in my nieghborhood thats pissing me off is the nieghbors dogs. Our neighbor next door has this dog, that he takes outside to crap, and it STILL barks at us constantly even though we've lived there 7 years. It barks at everything! And down the road, every summer, our other neighbor puts out its small dog on the front yard and it stands out there and barks non stop for hours on end. Small dog yapping is worse than big dog barking. I dont totally hate all dogs, I like them on individual basis, and hate them on a individual-breed basis. Anyway, Im done here, I just wanted to respond to your last comment. :)
I've owned a total of 5 cats, or at least, not me NEVER ME, just my siblings. All of which I have to deal with. Was never a cat I Actually liked and didn't want to kill instanty with a blugent hammer.
Well, one was a good cat, very nice kitten in fact, but then it grew up and I HATE IT! It's like they actually turn evil.
Yeah, neighborhood cats are a Huge pain, If you leave a window open they come inside bring in their bitches and give birth to sa crapload of kittens, and oh boy does it STINK! I've heard of this happening at my freind grandmas house. And it was when I just moved in the neighborhood, and later I found out they ACTUALly do that, Like my mom left the car door open, and the next morning we all noticed one STINKY smell, then I heard my sister say "Mom, look kittens!" and then thats when all hell broke loose.


8 leg wonder said:
I really hate cat, my girlfriend cat ate 4 of my emperor scorps, and now it has kittens that piss and crap on my bed daily. They make me so angry, I wish I could drowned them in bucket
This is the crap I'm talking about. They are well fed and yet thwey have to kill a poor innocent animal, I hate these creatures.

8 leg wonder said:
I've suggested that in the past, jessica won't let me. I gave the kittens a cute little nick-name: ''Snake food''
LMAO! Snake food, awsome name lol!

Pedro said:
i must say i don't hate cats i just like every other living thing on earth more (except humans) but i will say i think siamese cat are ok they are probably the best i like the attitude and they are probably the best fighters. my mother had one that had no front claws and it still kicked the <poop> out of every cat on the street (he he he) now he had some balls.
Understandable.
 

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if one reads through these cat hating threads you'll notice that the blame put on the cat is really the fault of the owner. Cats can be domesticated but they are very instinctual animals as well....its our responsibility to keep them from harming other creatures. Same goes for dogs, snakes, lizards, gerbils ...etc etc....its YOUR pet...you're responsibility....someones pet hurts your pet...its the owners fault....its not logical to blame an animal that has been brought into a situation by a human for behaving in a manner that is natural to them....yes...you have the right to feel bad when it happens...but that doesn't make the animal evil, bad or satans spawn. It makes the keeper IRRESPONSIBLE. People whining about evil cats, dogs, snakes....seem more simple minded than any animal on this planet....gnats included. Something to think about.....Cats are not exclusive when it comes to being aggresive towards other animals. All animals display aggression in one form or another.
 

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I'd like to share something with the guy who says cats cannot show emotion like a dog can and all of the BS. My cat, Demitrius, can and does act like a dog for me. He comes when i call him, he rolls over :) and has never ONCE gone after any of my other pets, 70+ tarantulas, corn snake, leopard gecko, and tree frog. He has absolutely no interest in anything like that. Hell, this damned cat pets me back when he's in my lap, talks to me, plays tag, and will clean my plate for me when i'm done eating. He has a wonderful personality.

I've found that in most cases with cats that have bad attitudes it comes mainly from how they are treated in their first 2-3 months of life. If they only know positive reinforcement and constant love you will have absolutely no issues with them when they grow older. I have had 11 cats in my life, and NONE of them have ever been the bloodthirsty horrors you describe.
 

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Inuleki said:
I've found that in most cases with cats that have bad attitudes it comes mainly from how they are treated in their first 2-3 months of life. If they only know positive reinforcement and constant love you will have absolutely no issues with them when they grow older. I have had 11 cats in my life, and NONE of them have ever been the bloodthirsty horrors you describe.
Well, I've had my cat since she was maybe 1 month old. She's still managed to be somewhat annoying. (She thinks it's great to scratch the carpet, or whatever, wait until you get annoyed enough to stand up, then flop over on her back...) Wouldn't call her a bloodthirsty horror, though ;)

Anyway, I think that certain cats have these "attitude problems" naturally, to an extent.

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FIrst off, I guess I should put a disclaimer here: I really mean no disrespect to anyone or anything by all of this, and here's my attempt to look at the subject from a logical standpoint.

Immortal_sin said:
please please please keep in mind that some people happen to like, or even love cats. talking about feeding them to snakes, and drowning them is offensive to some folks.
Some people also happen to like mice, lizards, and I suppose there may be the odd person who happens to like crickets especially well, though I've never met them. :) Anyway, I guess my point is that we deal with just this problem every day when people talk about feeding mice to their spiders/snakes/whatever. The difference there is that it's more common, and cats are more "well liked."

Personally I wouldn't consider feeding mice or lizards unless it was the only way I could get my pet to eat. I don't even like feeding live shrimp to my fish, or crickets to my tarantulas/scorpions, but I have a duty to keep them healthy, and I think that the benefit of owning such pets outweighs the down-side of having to feed live food. As for those "squish their heads and they won't feel anything" people, I will only say that if there is such a thing as a humane death, I'm not qualified to discern which methods are humane.

My views on live food, in a nutshell. Ok, so I'm soft... ;)

All that being said, and getting back to the point. If you had a hungry 20 foot long python, a cat may be approximately the right size for a prey item; even 20 foot long pythons have to eat. It's probably true that the people suggesting the feeding of cats to other animals are just doing it to be mean. Whether or not that is the case, there will certainly be no other place where the idea should be accepted as well as here.

Lastly, one large and very real problem with using a cat to feed another animal would certainly be that the cat is too well equiped for self defense.

What really confuses me is that if one were to give a cat armor plating and a stinger on the tail, a lot of these people who claim that they're "Evil," and that that's a bad thing, would now love them even though they are "Evil." :) How many times have you heard someone say how cool their mean spider/scorpion/solifugid (?) that sucks food up like a vacuum cleaner is?

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Yve said:
if one reads through these cat hating threads you'll notice that the blame put on the cat is really the fault of the owner. Cats can be domesticated but they are very instinctual animals as well....its our responsibility to keep them from harming other creatures. Same goes for dogs, snakes, lizards, gerbils ...etc etc....its YOUR pet...you're responsibility....someones pet hurts your pet...its the owners fault....its not logical to blame an animal that has been brought into a situation by a human for behaving in a manner that is natural to them....yes...you have the right to feel bad when it happens...but that doesn't make the animal evil, bad or satans spawn. It makes the keeper IRRESPONSIBLE. People whining about evil cats, dogs, snakes....seem more simple minded than any animal on this planet....gnats included. Something to think about.....Cats are not exclusive when it comes to being aggresive towards other animals. All animals display aggression in one form or another.
I really don't think the owner is responsible, they are simply overwhelmed with itys cuteness. I have yet to meet a cat that comes when it's called, or do anything else for that matyter to "obey" its owner. Unless of course its coming for food or anything it needs.

Inuleki said:
I'd like to share something with the guy who says cats cannot show emotion like a dog can and all of the BS. My cat, Demitrius, can and does act like a dog for me. He comes when i call him, he rolls over :) and has never ONCE gone after any of my other pets, 70+ tarantulas, corn snake, leopard gecko, and tree frog. He has absolutely no interest in anything like that. Hell, this damned cat pets me back when he's in my lap, talks to me, plays tag, and will clean my plate for me when i'm done eating. He has a wonderful personality.
Are you sure its a cat, and not just a really small dog?

I have never seen a cat actually obey. At all.

Inuleki said:
I've found that in most cases with cats that have bad attitudes it comes mainly from how they are treated in their first 2-3 months of life. If they only know positive reinforcement and constant love you will have absolutely no issues with them when they grow older. I have had 11 cats in my life, and NONE of them have ever been the bloodthirsty horrors you describe.
My siblings and family have owned a total of 2 cats sinse they were babys. One was just evil and stayed that way. However I did not treat it bad due to it was only a kitten and even I couldn't posses the strengh to harm it. So don't blame me. It was a bad seed I guess, in fact some of my other siblings even disliked the thing.
The other one, was cool. It was simply a good kitten, couldn't have asked for a better kitten.
Then it turned into a cat. I don't know what the hell happened to him. He was mean, hissed at everyone, crapped like a horse and sometimes missed the litterbox. I hated it ever sinse.
 

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I continued to hate cats ever sinse.
If a bird came through your window,snatched your salamander and flew off you would feel the same way about birds. :? How can you actually hate an animal?
 

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Highlander said:
If a bird came through your window,snatched your salamander and flew off you would feel the same way about birds. :? How can you actually hate an animal?
I already hated cats.

When you quoted me it said:

Woijchik89 said:
And I continued to hate cats ever sinse
And yes, I probally would've hated birds. Of course I already have my share for dislikeing of birds. LoL At least doves, and cockatiels. As long as it's not in my house I don't really care.
 

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Highlander said:
And what caused this hatred of cats?
Well, I just don't like or appreciate cats in any way. I don't hate cats as in wish to kill them(Although at times they come close to making me mad enough).
Cats just annoy me, as do many other things in life.

I also have an unneccesary fear of Cows. LoL
 
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