Wow, as feeding videos go, one I noticed really scrapes the bottom of the barrel.

Tim Benzedrine

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Yeah apologizing now didn't mean to go tarantula unrelated.

Yes this is the main reason I held off on a pixie. One mistake and it's gonna be nasty. I know adult males have reddish orange around and under the front legs. From what I understand adults need a 30 gallon tank especially if it's male as they are larger than females.

Thanks for sharing the info I'll stop with questions.
Heh, don't sweat the off-topic part. I'm kind of known for going off on tangents myself, sometimes with impunity. :D Mine does in fact seem to have that orange-ish tint. I wouldn't worry too much about getting bit. Mine swiped me because I hastily tried to retrieve a superworm that was trying to burrow down into the substrate near the frog. Under ordinary circumstances, you really don't need to have your fingers near the frog's business end, and since they are mainly ambush predators, they are unlikely to rush at your hand from a distance. They are not aggressive, they just view everything that moves as a meal. Although from what I have seen in other cases, they will go on the defense when pushed .

Hey, how about those tarantulas? Pretty cool critters, huh? Hmmm. That probably isn't adequate. Wait! I've got it...

Hey, my tarantula is on its back! Is it dead?!?


Moderator: "Nice try, Benzedrine!"

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Westicles

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Not familiar with the video, but don't care to see it
 

mickiem

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I know exactly the video you're talking about. I feel the same as you.

It popped up for me as a while back I was looking to get a Pixie.

Just a side note I saw one video in particular when a person was in the Pixe's habitat in Africa and the frog jumped at him nailing his hand, was a brutal bite.
My 10" Pixie bit me. The bite required stitches. They have a tooth on their upper lip. Didn't know about that one until it got me. :astonished:

Also, a 6" frog could still be a female, but she won't "sing". I had my adult male in a 40 gallon tank. The substrate was mostly mud; (clay and potting soil) with a separate area with water. He stayed in the mud most of the time. He dug in below it. When I put his food items in, it was fun to watch the ground start shaking, and he would lunge out right beneath the prey and take it. I reached in to rearrange a plant he had uprooted and I guess he thought I was fair game. Their eyesight is not great. I was always cautious of him but never afraid. One of my favorite pets. We held a mutual respect for each other. Seriously, get the Pixie frog!
 

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Worst one of these videos I've seen was a pacman frog eating a baby crocodile that was obviously far too big and likely refrigerated before filming so the frog could try and choke it down. If anyone really wants to see how bad it is they can just look up "frog eats crocodile" but I don't want to give them more views. The video cuts off before the frog can even get the crocodiles head swallowed and I doubt it ever managed. Ceratophrys have been known to die eating prey that was far too large, and this has even cited in some papers. Attached below is a link to a really interesting scan of a pacman frog that died after consuming another frog that was too large. Anyway really sucks that the frog was put in an extremely dangerous situation just for views and a vertebrate prey item it almost certainly failed to digest had to suffer. At least when it's a spider the prey item isn't suffering much more than any feeder insect and the frog should digest it just fine, but the crocodile hatchling video really rubbed me the wrong way since it potentially wastes two lives for entertainment.

 
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Normally I'm not antagonistic, but I imagine that if we got a good-sized group of us all together (and by that I mean several hundred), we could raise the dislikes to likes ratio on some of these homegrown videos to such a degree that the algorithm doesn't bring them up as often. The fact that such videos are even being recommended shows that the people who care maybe aren't giving the ol' the thumbs-down as often as they should.

Thanks,

Arthroverts
 

HeartBum

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Normally I'm not antagonistic, but I imagine that if we got a good-sized group of us all together (and by that I mean several hundred), we could raise the dislikes to likes ratio on some of these homegrown videos to such a degree that the algorithm doesn't bring them up as often. The fact that such videos are even being recommended shows that the people who care maybe aren't giving the ol' the thumbs-down as often as they should.

Thanks,

Arthroverts
Unfortunately, being able to dislike the video means having to view it. The algorithm likes views no matter the dislike to like ratio. That’s why trolls do so well.
 

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Normally I'm not antagonistic, but I imagine that if we got a good-sized group of us all together (and by that I mean several hundred), we could raise the dislikes to likes ratio on some of these homegrown videos to such a degree that the algorithm doesn't bring them up as often. The fact that such videos are even being recommended shows that the people who care maybe aren't giving the ol' the thumbs-down as often as they should.

Thanks,

Arthroverts
Unfortunately, that's not how the algorithm works. Any engagement, negative or positive, will push it up in people's feeds. People like drama, so controversial videos with a lot of dislikes can often get just as much attention as those with a lot of likes.
 

Arthroverts

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Ay, but bad watch times and poor viewer retention do affect the algorithm; if there are tons of views with one second of watch time, no viewer retention, and a dislike, it will hurt the positioning of the video.

Thanks,

Arthroverts
 

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Rodeos, bull fights, cock fights, pit fights, breaking horses, violence and gore movies, ultra violent video games, people taking photos at traffic accidents - craning their necks to get a better view as they chat and even laugh among themselves, millions of guns designed specifically to be fired at people........................
The modern world revolves around violence. The average child has violence trivialized in their minds around the age they learn how to walk.

I'm not criticizing the indignation expressed in regards to that feeding video, but be brutally honest here, it's damned difficult or next to impossible to avoid being a hypocrite in this modern age. Turning your backs constantly on trivialized violence or more often than not enjoying it as the bad guy takes a bullet in a movie. (Ever seen a gunshot wound up close and personal? Or searched an accident scene for a severed limb?)

That video is only the start. Are you taking your resentment out into your daily life, passively or actively expressing to others such conduct is not acceptable?

What is most interesting to me is when I mention things like the above, a large group of people dislike or resent me for bringing those things up.
 

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Rodeos, bull fights, cock fights, pit fights, breaking horses, violence and gore movies, ultra violent video games, people taking photos at traffic accidents - craning their necks to get a better view as they chat and even laugh among themselves, millions of guns designed specifically to be fired at people........................
The modern world revolves around violence. The average child has violence trivialized in their minds around the age they learn how to walk.

I'm not criticizing the indignation expressed in regards to that feeding video, but be brutally honest here, it's damned difficult or next to impossible to avoid being a hypocrite in this modern age. Turning your backs constantly on trivialized violence or more often than not enjoying it as the bad guy takes a bullet in a movie. (Ever seen a gunshot wound up close and personal? Or searched an accident scene for a severed limb?)

That video is only the start. Are you taking your resentment out into your daily life, passively or actively expressing to others such conduct is not acceptable?

What is most interesting to me is when I mention things like the above, a large group of people dislike or resent me for bringing those things up.
Violence is a part of the world, sure. We've gotten more efficient at it in recent years, sure. But that doesn't make every human a hypocrite for avoiding or disliking violence. I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to say here. That the world is awful and we should all just dissolve into madness? That trying to be a good person is worthless bc of all the suffering in the world? It's pessimistic, and I don't subscribe to that world view
 

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I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to say here. That the world is awful and we should all just dissolve into madness? That trying to be a good person is worthless bc of all the suffering in the world? It's pessimistic, and I don't subscribe to that world view
Proper parenting. Instead of the normal adults, parents, going on about their usual lives. They have a child, a new born. They have a responsibility during the child's formative years. To teach, in word and deed, in their daily lives, to demonstrate respect, mindfulness. Respect of self, respect of others, respect of the world about them. An intensive training course parents and children alike are actively engaged in during their daily lives.
From respect, a solid foundation of ethical conduct builds itself. Consider the first five years of every child's life an intensive training course, and a refresher course for the parents.

Take the OP video. Animal eats animal. Normal. But to produce the circumstances of a pit fight? No respect there. And deriving entertainment from it, not exactly self respect either. Nobody is perfect, the world isn't perfect, but we, the humans, have the ability to be discerning. Do I want to watch a pit fight? What purpose does that serve? I'm quite capable of committing mercy killings, of which I've done more than a few,, but it's painful, and I certainly have not derived pleasure, entertainment from it, And on occasions where there were witnesses I'm going to go full guns riot act on anyone who appears to derive pleasure - entertainment from it. -> "Grow up! Have a little dignity! Show some self respect and respect towards that animal"
 
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