Wow, as feeding videos go, one I noticed really scrapes the bottom of the barrel.

[Tim Benzedrine]

Nope, I'm not posting the link, the title alone should be enough to get my opinion across. It may have already been linked to and discussed here before anyway. If not, feel free to look it up if you wish. I didn't even watch the video.


I was looking over Pixie Frog set-ups, because I just got a new 40-gallon breeder tank for mine, and I was looking for a few ideas and tips. But, beneath one of those I watched, where the "related videos" are suggested, I saw one titled "Giant African Bullfrog devours Goliath Bird Eater! There was a still of the frog with a bunch of rather large tarantula legs protruding from its mouth.

Now, I'm not making any ethical judgments here, that would be a tad hypocritical the stuff I feed our tarantula and geckos do not get in line voluntarily, after all. However, such a feeding that I described is completely unnecessary, of course. Not to mention the waste of a pretty cool tarantula.

What has me bothered and bewildered is the question of who would give their frog a spider that reputedly has some of the worst urticating hairs in existence? Sure Pixies probably have a cast-iron stomach, they'll try to eat anything that moves. But I just can't imaging something not adapted to that sort of prey eating it and not reacting poorly. They are from Africa, and I have no idea if their range overlaps with African tarantulas at all, and even if it did, it would probably be with something that has a nasty bite, not nasty hairs.

 

[Poonjab]

I looked it up. It gets far far worse. Another one of those channels where they essentially pit animals against each other and call it “feeding videos”

 

[8 legged]

Here there are two to blame! The creators and the viewers!

If you don't look at the rubbish, no new ones will be added!

 

[Poonjab]

Here there are two to blame! The creators and the viewers!

If you don't look at the rubbish, no new ones will be added!

I’m going to go watch it again.

 

[8 legged]

...and you think that interests me?

 

[Edan bandoot]

Nope, I'm not posting the link, the title alone should be enough to get my opinion across. It may have already been linked to and discussed here before anyway. If not, feel free to look it up if you wish. I didn't even watch the video.


I was looking over Pixie Frog set-ups, because I just got a new 40-gallon breeder tank for mine, and I was looking for a few ideas and tips. But, beneath one of those I watched, where the "related videos" are suggested, I saw one titled "Giant African Bullfrog devours Goliath Bird Eater! There was a still of the frog with a bunch of rather large tarantula legs protruding from its mouth.

Now, I'm not making any ethical judgments here, that would be a tad hypocritical the stuff I feed our tarantula and geckos do not get in line voluntarily, after all. However, such a feeding that I described is completely unnecessary, of course. Not to mention the waste of a pretty cool tarantula.

What has me bothered and bewildered is the question of who would give their frog a spider that reputedly has some of the worst urticating hairs in existence? Sure Pixies probably have a cast-iron stomach, they'll try to eat anything that moves. But I just can't imaging something not adapted to that sort of prey eating it and not reacting poorly. They are from Africa, and I have no idea if their range overlaps with African tarantulas at all, and even if it did, it would probably be with something that has a nasty bite, not nasty hairs.

i'd imagine the mucous on the frog would protect it against the hairs no?

 

[Poonjab]

...and you think that interests me?

…yeah. That’s why I was letting you know.

 

[magouilles]

makes me think of a video I came across at some point (I did not watch it because my heart couldn't bear it) putting a wolf spider against a mantis I believe just for views....
if one would put a cat versus a possum for exemple it'd be called animal cruelty but two arthropods fighting is called entertainment

 

[viper69]

makes me think of a video I came across at some point (I did not watch it because my heart couldn't bear it) putting a wolf spider against a mantis I believe just for views....
if one would put a cat versus a possum for exemple it'd be called animal cruelty but two arthropods fighting is called entertainment

Humans are the worst animals on the planet

 

[8 legged]

Humans are the worst animals on the planet

Klitschko vs Putin would be appropriate! I would look at...

 

[viper69]

Klitschko vs Putin would be appropriate! I would look at...

Hes trying to make the old USSR all over

 

[kingshockey]

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[Arachnophobphile]

Nope, I'm not posting the link, the title alone should be enough to get my opinion across. It may have already been linked to and discussed here before anyway. If not, feel free to look it up if you wish. I didn't even watch the video.


I was looking over Pixie Frog set-ups, because I just got a new 40-gallon breeder tank for mine, and I was looking for a few ideas and tips. But, beneath one of those I watched, where the "related videos" are suggested, I saw one titled "Giant African Bullfrog devours Goliath Bird Eater! There was a still of the frog with a bunch of rather large tarantula legs protruding from its mouth.

Now, I'm not making any ethical judgments here, that would be a tad hypocritical the stuff I feed our tarantula and geckos do not get in line voluntarily, after all. However, such a feeding that I described is completely unnecessary, of course. Not to mention the waste of a pretty cool tarantula.

What has me bothered and bewildered is the question of who would give their frog a spider that reputedly has some of the worst urticating hairs in existence? Sure Pixies probably have a cast-iron stomach, they'll try to eat anything that moves. But I just can't imaging something not adapted to that sort of prey eating it and not reacting poorly. They are from Africa, and I have no idea if their range overlaps with African tarantulas at all, and even if it did, it would probably be with something that has a nasty bite, not nasty hairs.

I know exactly the video you're talking about. I feel the same as you.

It popped up for me as a while back I was looking to get a Pixie.

Just a side note I saw one video in particular when a person was in the Pixe's habitat in Africa and the frog jumped at him nailing his hand, was a brutal bite.

 

[Tim Benzedrine]

i'd imagine the mucous on the frog would protect it against the hairs no?

Maybe the mucous ON the frog. But, the mucous does not protect the eyes as far as I know. Frogs close their eyes when swallowing, but I don't think they do so during the initial chomp. And I was really thinking of the internal aspect of it, such as the mouth lining. For all I know though, urticating hairs may be something they have evolved to eat with disregard, tarantulas aren't the only critters to have such hairs as a defense mechanism. Whether or not such defense exists for creatures sharing the same environment as Pixie frogs I do not know

I'll admit that their enormous appetites and food-drive is one of the interesting things about them, I've even explained that to people and point out that the frogs can and will eat mice. But I hasten to explain that I would never feed my pixie a live mouse, and only pre-killed as an occasional treat due to the bones being tougher to digest and the high fat content. And I only mention it at al in order to to underline that they are not your average "sit on a lily pad flicking their tongues at flies" type of frog, but one of the behemoths of the amphibian world, to make sure somebody I tell about the species is not misled by the term "pixie".

I think about asking somebody unfamiliar with them "Hey, wanna see my pixie frog? "
"Sure! I'll bet it is cute as- OMIGAWD! WHAT IS THAT THING?!?" I don't typically name exotic pets except to satisfy people who inevitably as about a name, and in this frog's case, I think I'd say "Tinkerbelle".

"Oh, so it's a girl?"
"No. Please stop stereotyping him."

Okay. Enough of the typical Benzedrine comments from me. This is going off topic, originally it belonged in this forum, but I've drifted. As usual.

 

[Jonathan6303]

Humans are the worst animals on the planet

In a way your right.

Hes trying to make the old USSR all over

Humans are all about power

 

[Pmurinushmacla]

In the end, its just a frog eating another prey item. Only things that make it morally wrong imo is the added risk to the frog, and the use of it for views online. But other than that, feeding a frog a tarantula isnt much different than feeding a tarantula a roach.

In the end, there is no consistent moral compass.

 

[Tim Benzedrine]

That's pretty much the point I attempted to make in my original post. One person's pet might be another person's feeder. Which is why I focused more on the potential harm such an offering could create and glossed over the emotional implications.

I have a colony of Madagascar Hissing roaches roaches. Initially, I accepted the offer of a pair with the intent of having a couple (more) unusual pets. The person gave me a sexed pair, and I really didn't make a lot of effort to breed them. But being roaches, they didn't need a lot of effort and I now have quite a few of them. So, I do feed a few off, mainly to my pixie frog, but not often. And when I do, I have an odd feeling of remorse. other feeder roaches I've had, these guys have some kind of charm that to met that can't quite figure out.
I certainly can't imagine feeding any of my tarantulas to the pixie frog, even if I had a large excess of the spiders.

 

[Arachnophobphile]

That's pretty much the point I attempted to make in my original post. One person's pet might be another person's feeder. Which is why I focused more on the potential harm such an offering could create and glossed over the emotional implications.

I have a colony of Madagascar Hissing roaches roaches. Initially, I accepted the offer of a pair with the intent of having a couple (more) unusual pets. The person gave me a sexed pair, and I really didn't make a lot of effort to breed them. But being roaches, they didn't need a lot of effort and I now have quite a few of them. So, I do feed a few off, mainly to my pixie frog, but not often. And when I do, I have an odd feeling of remorse. other feeder roaches I've had, these guys have some kind of charm that to met that can't quite figure out.
I certainly can't imagine feeding any of my tarantulas to the pixie frog, even if I had a large excess of the spiders.

How old is your Pixie frog? I know they are eating machines and their bottom teeth are menacing to me, but I still want one.

 

[Tim Benzedrine]

Note to the Powers That Be: Feel free to zap this thread over to the "Not so-spineless Wonders" sub-forum. I had not meant for this to transform to a discussion about a Pixie frog, but since a question was asked in regard to it, I feel obliged to supply a response. The thread was only marginally tarantula-related anyway.

How old is your Pixie frog? I know they are eating machines and their bottom teeth are menacing to me, but I still want one.

I have no idea. I was at work one day, and a lady who had learned that I keep tarantulas/reptiles/etc approached me and said "Do you want a Pixie frog. I blinked and said "Yeah, I guess..."
I had in fact thought that I would not mind having one, but that was as far as I got.

It appears to be an adult male, (however, see below) but I'm unsure if she raised it from a baby or not. By most accounts I've seen, they grow to adult frogs in two years or so.

As a point of reference, I'll attach a photo of the frog. The water bowl is 9.7 inches long, and 8.1 inches wide. So I'd estimate the frog to be somewhere around six inches or so inches, which I don't think is entirely beyond the size a female can reach so it might be a large female. Except that I heard it croaking in the deep- bass male tone, and females are not said to call in that manner. So whatever. You can see why I'm upgrading the enclosure. He is currently in a 20-long tank, all i had available on such short notice. And he has done well in it so far, but deserves better.

And you do have to watch about placing your hand in the wrong spot. Mine grazed me once with just the real teeth (those bottom front ones are not actual teeth, but bone projections, but there are actual teeth on the sides of the mouth) and it drew blood. It would have been worse if it had tagged me with the front "teeth".



Bonus photo: When Pixies attack.

 

[Arachnophobphile]

Note to the Powers That Be: Feel free to zap this thread over to the "Not so-spineless Wonders" sub-forum. I had not meant for this to transform to a discussion about a Pixie frog, but since a question was asked in regard to it, I feel obliged to supply a response. The thread was only marginally tarantula-related anyway.



I have no idea. I was at work one day, and a lady who had learned that I keep tarantulas/reptiles/etc approached me and said "Do you want a Pixie frog. I blinked and said "Yeah, I guess..."
I had in fact thought that I would not mind having one, but that was as far as I got.

It appears to be an adult male, (however, see below) but I'm unsure if she raised it from a baby or not. By most accounts I've seen, they grow to adult frogs in two years or so.

As a point of reference, I'll attach a photo of the frog. The water bowl is 9.7 inches long, and 8.1 inches wide. So I'd estimate the frog to be somewhere around six inches or so inches, which I don't think is entirely beyond the size a female can reach so it might be a large female. Except that I heard it croaking in the deep- bass male tone, and females are not said to call in that manner. So whatever. You can see why I'm upgrading the enclosure. He is currently in a 20-long tank, all i had available on such short notice. And he has done well in it so far, but deserves better.

And you do have to watch about placing your hand in the wrong spot. Mine grazed me once with just the real teeth (those bottom front ones are not actual teeth, but bone projections, but there are actual teeth on the sides of the mouth) and it drew blood. It would have been worse if it had tagged me with the front "teeth".

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Bonus photo: When Pixies attack.

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Yeah apologizing now didn't mean to go tarantula unrelated.

Yes this is the main reason I held off on a pixie. One mistake and it's gonna be nasty. I know adult males have reddish orange around and under the front legs. From what I understand adults need a 30 gallon tank especially if it's male as they are larger than females.

Thanks for sharing the info I'll stop with questions.