Will this kill my T?

[Liam De Wilde]

My room stinks and I want to get something to stop the smell like a diffuser but my tarantula is in my room and I need to know what scents and gases etc are harmful to tarantulas?

 

[lostbrane]

Well, I don't know enough about chemicals interacting with tarantulas but I would imagine anything along the lines of essential oils, etc. would pose an unnecessary risk to your tarantula. Can you move your tarantula outside your room for a bit? At most, I'd move the t, use the diffuser then let your room air out for a while until you can't detect the fragrant aroma and move the t back into your room.

 

[Arachnophoric]

What's causing the smell? Maybe try eliminating the source rather than covering it up with sprays. They can pose a threat to your T, and it's anyone's guess as to what would be safe to use. If it's a must though, lostbrane's suggestion is a good one - remove the T from the room while it airs out.

 

[mirna]

I use candles and essential oil lamp in my room, but like on the other side of the room, not really too close to them. Maybe someone knows for a fact that it's bad for T's but in my case the oils I use don't seem to bother my T's.

 

[DagmarV]

Essential oils will kill a house cat, so I'm guessing they will kill a T.

 

[mirna]

Essential oils will kill a house cat, so I'm guessing they will kill a T.

Dude I have cats and dogs my whole life, and tarantulas for a year almost and nothing ever happened to anyone...idk what kind of oils are you talking about and if the cat maybe drank the oil but I have never heard or had someone bringing to me (to a vet) an animal that was sick from essential oil...

 

[Arachnophoric]

Dude I have cats and dogs my whole life, and tarantulas for a year almost and nothing ever happened to anyone...idk what kind of oils are you talking about and if the cat maybe drank the oil but I have never heard or had someone bringing to me (to a vet) an animal that was sick from essential oil...

Several essential oils have ingredients in them toxic to cats and dogs. You can see for yourself with a simple google search.

 

[DagmarV]

Dude I have cats and dogs my whole life, and tarantulas for a year almost and nothing ever happened to anyone...idk what kind of oils are you talking about and if the cat maybe drank the oil but I have never heard or had someone bringing to me (to a vet) an animal that was sick from essential oil...

The kind of oils I'm talking about are essential oils. Unless you're buying perfume oils, they're all the same.

https://www.nowfoods.com/now/nowledge/essential-oil-safety-faqs

Infants, children, and pets may be highly sensitive to essential oils, even when used as directed in a diffuser.

 

[mirna]

Several essential oils have ingredients in them toxic to cats and dogs. You can see for yourself with a simple google search.

Ok, you should know that not everything that pops up on google is correct...again as I said I'm using them and I never had problems nor did I at any point in my career get a case of poisoning with oils..that said I really don't see a point of discussing this in circle I don't spray it in their face...its on elevated place and helps me with my respiratory problems and I didn't see any bad effect in the last 20years so I'll keep on keepin' on

 

[DagmarV]

Ok, you should know that not everything that pops up on google is correct...

I've had essential oil company reps tell me straight up they are not 100% safe to use around pets. I attended a training with NOW just last week and the presenter specifically said not to use them around cats. Nobody is attacking you for using them, but it's important to be aware of the risks, hence why my recommendation is not to use them around Ts.

 

[mirna]

I've had essential oil company reps tell me straight up they are not 100% safe to use around pets. I attended a training with NOW just last week and the presenter specifically said not to use them around cats. Nobody is attacking you for using them, but it's important to be aware of the risks, hence why my recommendation is not to use them around Ts.

Ok, it has a disclaimer for safety...again, never saw an actual case of it happening...on the other note, just because it's bad for cats, doesn't mean it's bad for tarantulas

I'd actually like to know if people use oils in the house and what kind of an effect (if any) it had on tarantulas...would be interesting research to me...

 

[Arachnophoric]

Ok, you should know that not everything that pops up on google is correct...again as I said I'm using them and I never had problems nor did I at any point in my career get a case of poisoning with oils..that said I really don't see a point of discussing this in circle I don't spray it in their face...its on elevated place and helps me with my respiratory problems and I didn't see any bad effect in the last 20years so I'll keep on keepin' on

Of course, just like I know every individual isn't correct. A person can live with a smoker for 20 years and constantly inhale 2nd hand smoke but not get cancer, does that mean smoking is not detrimental or dangerous? Not saying that you using a diffuser is as bad as second hand smoke, but that while there may be no drastic signs of a problem that it could still be having an effect. Some ingredients in EOs ARE toxic to our pets, and I wouldn't want to be putting that in the air of my enclosed apartment where my pets can't get away from it if it's bothering them.

Most risk is present if the animal can get direct access to the oil - such as leaving out liquid potpourri that a dog may lick, or someone trying out "natural" remedies on their pets. Diffusers themselves, while certainly safer, are not without some percentage of risk. With how nosy my cats are with wanting to get into everything, I wouldn't want to take the risk personally, since for me a diffuser wouldn't really have any important benefit (i.e. helping with respiratory issues).

I personally would never expose my Ts directly to EOs. I don't believe it'd have any benefit for them, but if someone wants to take that gamble with their own collection I'd certainly love for them to share the results.

 

[mirna]

Omg I'm not saying people should expose them directly to essential oils...i actually explicitly said that I have them further away from oils...you should not spray them with oils definitely...
and as your spider doesn't roam around the house like your cat (at least I hope ) I don't see a way of it accidently "licking" the oil haha

 

[Arachnophoric]

Omg I'm not saying people should expose them directly to essential oils...i actually explicitly said that I have them further away from oils...you should not spray them with oils definitely...
and as your spider doesn't roam around the house like your cat (at least I hope ) I don't see a way of it accidently "licking" the oil haha

Yeah, I noticed you said that and didn't mean to imply otherwise! Just explaining why my knee-jerk response to using EOs is a "better not" for me.

And what, you don't let your Ts out for exercise? I'll let you know they LOVE to play with my kitties. Jokes aside, I'm no arachnologist(is that even the term I'm looking for? Is that a term at all??) and do not know all of the ins and outs of the science and biology of tarantulas, but I'd think if anything they'd be likely to be more sensitive to chemicals dispersed by a diffuser than a mammal would. That's what my line of logic is telling me at least, but it's also the last hour of a 12 hour work shift.

 

[mirna]

I'm no arachnologist either but I know that they don't like the smell of (pepper)mint but I didn't hear they were bothered by some other smell...but yeah, too little research on that

 

[The Grym Reaper]

The kind of oils I'm talking about are essential oils. Unless you're buying perfume oils, they're all the same.

https://www.nowfoods.com/now/nowledge/essential-oil-safety-faqs

I'm more inclined to believe the medical director for the ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center than some hokey supplement site

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/are-essential-oils-poisonous-to-cats/

 

[DagmarV]

I'm more inclined to believe the medical director for the ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center than some hokey supplement site

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/are-essential-oils-poisonous-to-cats/

I used the NOW website (a reputable company thats been around for decades and has set safety and testing standards for essential oils btw) to show that even the top essential oil companies themselves do not recommend their use around pets.

 

[mirna]

Why are we comparing tarantulas to cats btw? So let's say they are sensitive to same stuff as cats (i.e. eucalyptus) then let's also conclude that T's are ok with others smells that cats are ok with...if you want to go by that logic...

 

[viper69]

Everyone who has used oils and other questionable things around their Ts, and has said "nothing is wrong w/my Ts" doesn't actually know this to be true. There is chronic and acute expose, and chronic and acute issues when a life is exposed to chemicals. No one here can say they are safe at all.

but like on the other side of the room, not really too close to them

And the molecules don't move to other side of the room??

 

[mirna]

Well you can't say it's the same amount in the air close to them and pretty far away from them...actually by their cages I don't even smell the oil :/ which of course doesn't mean they don't
My point exactly...we don't know..noone knows...i just said from my experience how it looks like..that's the most anyone of us can say on this question