Will feeding make a t molt faster.

[Frog beetle]

I was wondering if feeding a T would make it molt faster I recently watched a video where they said if you feed some Ts large amounts of food eventually their body will tell them to stop eating and go into premium is this true

Not sure who the vidoe was by I think it was either Dave’s little beasties or Tom moran

 

[dimensionaut]

To my knowledge, feeding them more often does not make them molt faster. Instead they would just become satiated and just spend more time fasting.

 

[Neonblizzard]

So to deconstruct this a little bit so it makes more sense :

Once a T eats so much it feels it doesn't need to eat any more before it's next molt - it will stop eating until then - that's not to suggest it won't still be a long time before it actually molts. They may also just fast for a long period then not actually molt.

You can definitely push a slings growth rate on by keeping it fat and on the hotter side because they are more vulnerable in the sling stage and people want them out of that as quick as possible.

Some people also try to push their juveniles to grow in the same way for various reasons. But you're more likely to have an obese T than a faster growing one. It is especially bad to do this to adults as they take much much longer to lose weight if they get too fat.

We can't be certain of the negative health effects of pushing a T to grow faster, but it certainly reduces the lifespan of other animals.

 

[The Grym Reaper]

Nope. Piling food into them doesn't speed up their moult cycles, it just leads to extended pre-moult periods and excessive fasting. They either get to a point where they have eaten enough to see themselves through until their next moult and then go into an excessively long pre-moult or, as is usually the case with slow growers they get so full that they just opt to fast for months/years and then eventually resume feeding (assuming they don't suffer drag injuries and any related complitations as a result of being stupidly fat in the meantime).

For example, my A. geniculata female moults once every 12 months (and nothing I do will speed that up by any sort of significant amount), if I pile 3-4 crickets into her every 7 days then she'll likely just get full halfway through her moult cycle and spend the other half fasting/in pre-moult, if I feed her 3-4 crickets every 14 days then she still moults every 12 months but she only refuses to eat for the last month or two of her moult cycle.

 

[Bottrellio]

if the above information is correct how would you go about slowing a sexed male down to make sure the female is mature (sac mates)

 

[Dorifto]

if the above information is correct how would you go about slowing a sexed male down to make sure the female is mature (sac mates)

By don't doing it. Would you have sons with your sister? Same goes for them.

 

[Neonblizzard]

if the above information is correct how would you go about slowing a sexed male down to make sure the female is mature (sac mates)

Not easily. The male will usually be long dead before the female is ready. Not that you should really be knowingly breeding sac mates

 

[Smotzer]

There is only a certain amount of food really needed for any molt. You can feed that into them by rountinely offering food via high feqeuency or high quantity or both and it is not going to make it molt any faster or grow any bigger, all it is going to do is have them plump up or over plump quite quickily and then they will stop eating and fast for an extended peiod of time (power feeding does not apply to tarantulas). How I feed is a stretch my food out over the entire molt cycle with less quanity and frequency than the above example trying to never over plump the abdomen but keep it at a size I have learned is adequate and allow it to eat all the way up until the next molt. My 'premolt' times are usually quite short and know they are hydrated well throughout cycle and in preparation for a molt.

 

[KenNet]

...Same goes for them.

Nope! The main cause, inbreeding doesn't work the same in humans and in spiders.
If you have other information, please share it with us

 

[cold blood]

if the above information is correct how would you go about slowing a sexed male down to make sure the female is mature (sac mates)

while the addition of extra food will not speed the molting process, feeding a meager schedule absolutely will extend the length of the cycle. One can also keep a male at lower temps to slow the process.

Raising the temps can shorten a cycle, but it wont be as significant as one might think.

 

[Dorifto]

Nope! The main cause, inbreeding doesn't work the same in humans and in spiders.
If you have other information, please share it with us

It's not humans or spiders, is genetics.

Inbreeding decreases genetic diversity in every species, making them for example more vulnerable to certain diseases. If a big number of the same species has a certain genetic expression that make them more vulnerable to a fungus for example, and there is another group of the same species but with a slightly different genetic expressions, which one would you think it'll be the most vulnerable? The genetically homogeneous big group, or the genetically diversified one?

Another big example are the problems of the dogs that are inbreeded to be "perfect"... Check how they were and how they are now, and check also all the problems derived from those inbreedings.

 

[KenNet]

It's not humans or spiders, is genetics.

Inbreeding decreases genetic diversity in every species, making them for example more vulnerable to certain diseases. If a big number of the same species has a certain genetic expression that make them more vulnerable to a fungus for example, and there is another group of the same species but with a slightly different genetic expressions, which one would you think it'll be the most vulnerable? The genetically homogeneous big group, or the genetically diversified one?

Another big example are the problems of the dogs that are inbreeded to be "perfect"... Check how they were and how they are now, and check also all the problems derived from those inbreedings.

Yes. And it's a HUGE difference in how this works! As I already told you. If you don't want to understand that, there is nothing I can do and your post is just semantics. Show us what you're referring to.

 

[Dorifto]

Yes. And it's a HUGE difference in how this works! As I already told you. If you don't want to understand that, there is nothing I can do and your post is just semantics. Show us what you're referring to.

For spoon feeding you? Read a bit instead of posting "semantics" in all the threads you disagree...

FYI it can have the opposite effects, but usually unexperienced breeders are not going to control if their offsprings have any kind of issues etc, so better to have a rich genetic for that.

A little trick, for the next time select the phrase and the text you want to quote, and click on reply. Makes the things much easier

 

[KenNet]

It's not humans or spiders, is genetics.

Inbreeding decreases genetic diversity in every species, making them for example more vulnerable to certain diseases.

If a big number of the same species has a certain genetic expression that make them more vulnerable to a fungus for example, and there is another group of the same species but with a slightly different genetic expressions, which one would you think it'll be the most vulnerable? The genetically homogeneous big group, or the genetically diversified one?

Another big example are the problems of the dogs that are inbreeded to be "perfect"... Check how they were and how they are now, and check also all the problems derived from those inbreedings.

Yes. In theory. Not in reality. It's a huge difference that you are missing. And, again, spiders and mammals are very different when it comes to degenerate breeding.

You just repeating yourself. And again, spiders are not humans.

Dogs are mammals. You mixing things up again.

 

[Dorifto]

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[KenNet]

Spoon feeding?
Where are your reference to what you referring to?

I'll be honest, I think you're a troll.

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Sorry. My mistake.

Nope! The main cause, inbreeding doesn't work the same in humans and in spiders.
If you have other information, please share it with us

I give you another chance

 

[cold blood]

I think people fail to realize that a huge number of species we have in the hobby, originated from a small few ts brought in. Any time this happens, inbreeding is inevitable, and even the only way to sustain them in captivity.

 

[Dorifto]

I think people fail to realize that a huge number of species we have in the hobby, originated from a small few ts brought in. Any time this happens, inbreeding is inevitable, and even the only way to sustain them in captivity.

And that's not the reason why new fresh blood is inserted in the hobby? Inbreeding effects can be repaired with outbreeding, so why to still promote this habit if "fresh" blood is available from other sources? Money? Instead of maintaining them healthy why to do something that would put them in the exit box again?

Why not do hybridise if their genetics doesn't matter...

They are plenty of articles available just with a click.

 

[cold blood]

And that's not the reason why new fresh blood is inserted in the hobby?

With many closed borders there is not always an opportunity for "fresh blood"

so why to still promote this habit if "fresh" blood is available from other sources?

Sooo, where the heck did I promote ANYTHING....I didn't, I simply stated a fact.

Why not do hybridise if their genetics doesn't matter...

come back to planet earth, we are on a different subject over here.

 

[KenNet]

And that's not the reason why new fresh blood is inserted in the hobby? Inbreeding effects can be repaired with outbreeding, so why to still promote this habit if "fresh" blood is available from other sources? Money? Instead of maintaining them healthy why to do something that would put them in the exit box again?

Why not do hybridise if their genetics doesn't matter...

They are plenty of articles available just with a click.

You still just write a lot of words...
Just your opinions.
Where is your scientific source?
Show us what you know about the difference in inbreeding in mammals and spiders. Big words, should be easy for you to have something to refer to. If not, you're a troll.