Why did all of my scorpions die?

Moakmeister

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As long as the substrate is moist (not saturated) all the way through you don't need any kind of measuring.

So possibly?
So with desert species, they need a heat lamp, right? And it needs to be on a timer so it goes off at night?
 

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So with desert species, they need a heat lamp, right? And it needs to be on a timer so it goes off at night?
Heat lamp , heat pad, your choice. Just be careful not to bake it.

I don't use any supplemental heating with my north American arid species and they're fine.
 

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That is a hernia not a cancer. Some species are prone to hernias alot more than others.

It is a hernia scorpions do not get cancer.
 
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It would be pretty hard to over moisture the soil it would look like a salamander or water frog 🐸 enclosure. My issue was under watering mine , so exact opposite as yours . Mine was old it might had died of natural causes .

more of a cyst / molting deformity with inverts as far I’m sure no veterinarians study inverts and diagnose them with cancer a mammal/reptile issue etc vertebrate. It’s deadly, like cancer so your not entirely wrong.😑
Hernia.
 

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Heat lamp , heat pad, your choice. Just be careful not to bake it.

I don't use any supplemental heating with my north American arid species and they're fine.
For the purposes of reducing humidity, what would you recommend? Do I not need to do it?

Is there a set of guidelines I can read on AB for raising desert species or even slings? I understand they have trouble molting in captivity and I have no idea how to help with that.
 

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All of my desert species have molted for me once or twice. I live in Seattle and our humidity is around the upper 60s sometimes even more. I've had Hadrurus and it did very well even right next to my AFS enclosures. It's all about your setups. Deserts I keep the maximum airflow for adults and even restrict it for young with side airflow. Only to help minimize drifting moisture. Sand substrate that dosent retain moisture. They eat, they poop they thrive. I use a single 4w heat pad vertical on the side of another tank to use for heat and they like to snuggle up to it in the night time. Day time they hide in their little homes. I have 3 newly added 2i hottentotta and Jordanensis and they have all been very active at night. Plastic containers in my opinion can cause more difficulties when trying to level out moisture. I've had plenty of centruroides young to study it. Plastic with minimal ventilation holes only locks in moisture. If you use a mesh and glass enclosure you can adjust with a cover of sorts to gauge more easily. But not to say this is the only way but its worked in my case and ive had luck with switching. Lighting can also dry out enclosures and keep humidity low. I use one of those blue bulb Zilla lights and it pumps just the tight amount of heat into my Leiurus enclosure for a " day time" heat cycle. Humidity typically sites in the 30-40 range. She's molted, has never gotten micosis and she eats very well.

Moral of the story is you have to experiment with different things to see what works best for your environment to create their environment. We all have had our struggles in our beginnings and once you find things that start working we tweak them to dial in a sustainable habitat.

These are just things that worked for me in my situation and I'm not claiming this will all work for you but in my experience with haveing desert species and humid species I've had to do some serious dialing to adjust for my seasons and room dwellings. It's fairly easy to keep semi-arid species so IMO I'd look into those if you fight slight humid situations.

Best of luck to you and sorry to hear about your scorpions.
 

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I agree with what venomous said above. Mine are in humid conditions in summer and dryer in winter due to thr atmosphere.
Hadrurus are the ones that have had difficulties molting. Most other arid species don't share the same degree of difficulty.

My arid species are in kritter keepers which have a ton of ventilation. It isn't cross ventilation per se but in this case I don't need it.

I also give them water dishes.
 

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All of my desert species have molted for me once or twice. I live in Seattle and our humidity is around the upper 60s sometimes even more. I've had Hadrurus and it did very well even right next to my AFS enclosures. It's all about your setups. Deserts I keep the maximum airflow for adults and even restrict it for young with side airflow. Only to help minimize drifting moisture. Sand substrate that dosent retain moisture. They eat, they poop they thrive. I use a single 4w heat pad vertical on the side of another tank to use for heat and they like to snuggle up to it in the night time. Day time they hide in their little homes. I have 3 newly added 2i hottentotta and Jordanensis and they have all been very active at night. Plastic containers in my opinion can cause more difficulties when trying to level out moisture. I've had plenty of centruroides young to study it. Plastic with minimal ventilation holes only locks in moisture. If you use a mesh and glass enclosure you can adjust with a cover of sorts to gauge more easily. But not to say this is the only way but its worked in my case and ive had luck with switching. Lighting can also dry out enclosures and keep humidity low. I use one of those blue bulb Zilla lights and it pumps just the tight amount of heat into my Leiurus enclosure for a " day time" heat cycle. Humidity typically sites in the 30-40 range. She's molted, has never gotten micosis and she eats very well.

Moral of the story is you have to experiment with different things to see what works best for your environment to create their environment. We all have had our struggles in our beginnings and once you find things that start working we tweak them to dial in a sustainable habitat.

These are just things that worked for me in my situation and I'm not claiming this will all work for you but in my experience with haveing desert species and humid species I've had to do some serious dialing to adjust for my seasons and room dwellings. It's fairly easy to keep semi-arid species so IMO I'd look into those if you fight slight humid situations.

Best of luck to you and sorry to hear about your scorpions.
I agree with what venomous said above. Mine are in humid conditions in summer and dryer in winter due to thr atmosphere.
Hadrurus are the ones that have had difficulties molting. Most other arid species don't share the same degree of difficulty.

My arid species are in kritter keepers which have a ton of ventilation. It isn't cross ventilation per se but in this case I don't need it.

I also give them water dishes.
So you do both have hydrometers if you know the humidity level, yeah? Veno, you use both a heating light and a mat?

I sound like a new keeper who thinks everything needs to be perfect down to the gnat’s ass… I’m just traumatized man ;_;
 

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I only use a bulbs for some and I have heat admitters for 2. I use a heat mat on my AFS and it so happens to be on the perfect side to keep my 2i. I use hydrometer yes. It's highly useful so you arnt guessing.



So you do both have hydrometers if you know the humidity level, yeah? Veno, you use both a heating light and a mat?

I sound like a new keeper who thinks everything needs to be perfect down to the gnat’s ass… I’m just traumatized man ;_;
 

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So you do both have hydrometers if you know the humidity level, yeah? Veno, you use both a heating light and a mat?

I sound like a new keeper who thinks everything needs to be perfect down to the gnat’s ass… I’m just traumatized man ;_;
I don't use hydrometer for any of my animals. The ones that are humid I just keep the substrate moist (not soaking).
 

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Scorpions are Tricksters in more ways then one, tricky to keep as well.
 

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Yep, Carbide and Ms. Nightshade were best buddies <3 I did end up separating them for the last few months of Carbide’s life to make sure there was nothing stressing him. Now Ms. Nightshade has another blue beetle, Coyote, and two Ironclad beetles, Apollo and Rusty, she lives with.
Thats really interesting, I had no idea scorpions could cohabitate with beetles.
 

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Would like to see/know more about Carbide rip, Ms Nightshade, Coyote, Apollo, Rusty.. cohab saga.
 
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