White eyed crickets

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So last week i bought some feeder crickets from a local breeder and once i got down to using them i saw a few with white eyes! They look absolutely terrifying! They also seem to be faster and put on more of a fight than the othets.

I had one in with a T for 2 days and it didn't want to take it (deffo not premolt since this would be it second meal after the molt) it is not too big of a prey item either.

Anyone else ever had these hell spawns in their batch of feeders?
 

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White eyes in insects is the result of the lack of pigments that you would see in their eyes, kind of like the lack of melanin in vertebrates that results in albinism. You'll still see coloration on the rest of the body in insects because either different proteins and pigments are responsible for body color or the body color is the result of the color of the proteins that make up the exoskeleton after sclerotization and not pigment production. Sclerotization is the biochemical process in which new exoskeleton darkens and becomes more rigid and you'll find that exoskeletons that undergo significantly more sclerotization for a harder structure will be significantly darker unless pigments or structural coloration are incorporated.
 

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The color pattern does not seem to fully match what I usually see for Acheta domesticus
 

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I'm pretty sure that is one of those "Crazy Reds" Based on the reddish hue. not a field cricket, but not a domestic cricket. and @Esherman81 breeds are only for cats and dogs and such, here, it's distinct species or localities.
 

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I'm pretty sure that is one of those "Crazy Reds" Based on the reddish hue. not a field cricket, but not a domestic cricket. and @Esherman81 breeds are only for cats and dogs and such, here, it's distinct species or localities.
Yeah I know lol..it's been a long morning ..I'm sick ..:( ..sadly lol
 

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I'm pretty sure that is one of those "Crazy Reds" Based on the reddish hue. not a field cricket, but not a domestic cricket. and @Esherman81 breeds are only for cats and dogs and such, here, it's distinct species or localities.
They are definitely a different species than the clasic black crickets. Their body is shaped a bit differently.
They might be crazy reds yes! Their legs are red (adults) and so are the outer side of their wings
 

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They are definitely a different species than the clasic black crickets. Their body is shaped a bit differently.
They might be crazy reds yes! Their legs are red (adults) and so are the outer side of their wings
IF they are "Crazy reds" Kill them immediately. Don't even put any decision, just end them. That strain of Field cricket/Domestic needs to be killed off.
 

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Never even heard of the crazy red strain ...I only breed the kind you find at petsmart lol
 

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It does kind of look like a Crazy Red. I used to have them, they used to sell them at pet stores around here. Then there was a lot of negativity about them, people claiming legal issues with shipping, that they bite and eat each other, etc. But I used to raise them and they were the best breeders and feeders I ever had. I'd casually try to breed those white-eyed ones also, just to see where it went.
 

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It does kind of look like a Crazy Red. I used to have them, they used to sell them at pet stores around here. Then there was a lot of negativity about them, people claiming legal issues with shipping, that they bite and eat each other, etc. But I used to raise them and they were the best breeders and feeders I ever had. I'd casually try to breed those white-eyed ones also, just to see where it went.
IF they are "Crazy reds" Kill them immediately. Don't even put any decision, just end them. That strain of Field cricket/Domestic needs to be killed off.
I went to take some pics of the adults. Pretty sure the are crazy reds. Why are they considered "bad"?
 

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I went to take some pics of the adults. Pretty sure the are crazy reds. Why are they considered "bad"?
They are a hyper aggressive species of invasive field cricket that's illegal to import/export outside of California their native habitat
 

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I live in California and would be interested in owning crazy reds. Does anyone sell them? Is it bad to own them if you live in cali?
 

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I went to take some pics of the adults. Pretty sure the are crazy reds. Why are they considered "bad"?

They are considered bad because ....well I don't know exactly why. People read things from so called "experts" and just accept it, I think it's part of our social nature to do that. It's easier to accept what others say than to think on our own. I used to have the reds, they were great feeders but it depends on what you're feeding them to. Tarantulas and scorpions handled them with no problem. Centipedes sometimes got a little bite, I could see them react to it. I think what might have happened was that fear propaganda was used to bash them because of the fear of the species surviving beyond their natural habitat, the tactic is common.
 

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They are considered bad because ....well I don't know exactly why. People read things from so called "experts" and just accept it, I think it's part of our social nature to do that. It's easier to accept what others say than to think on our own. I used to have the reds, they were great feeders but it depends on what you're feeding them to. Tarantulas and scorpions handled them with no problem. Centipedes sometimes got a little bite, I could see them react to it. I think what might have happened was that fear propaganda was used to bash them because of the fear of the species surviving beyond their natural habitat, the tactic is common.
It's because they're hyper aggressive compared to normal crickets. I've seen it myself, when I got some I lost a water dragon to it. They're much faster, and aggressive than a normal cricket, and bite, then hold on.
 
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