When do you rehouse?

[cold blood]

Interesting, very interesting indeed!

You crack me up Chris!!

 

[freedumbdclxvi]

i dont know about that. if there are spores left in there, its just a matter of time before they come back.

And? Unless your enclosure is overgrown and caked with mold, mold isn't anything more than an aesthetic problem.

 

[xkris]

to each their own.
you like your mold, have it.
i'll clean mine

 

[bscheidt1020]

to each their own.
you like your mold, have it.
i'll clean mine

You're a chippy lil fella aren't ya? Can we all just be friends please? I'm really sensitive.

 

[vespers]

You're a chippy lil fella aren't ya?

She isn't a fella.

 

[xkris]

You're a chippy lil fella aren't ya? Can we all just be friends please? I'm really sensitive.

lol, i do try. sometimes...
other times in equation enters those times in the month and bunch of people ganging up on you to defend...mold.
then i just cant help myself.

sorry for upsetting you, though.

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She isn't a fella.

that's correct, sir.

 

[Drache]

to each their own.
you like your mold, have it.
i'll clean mine

Actually - when there is mold, I also get rid of it, and I have rehoused once because of a mold issue. I don't know what mold off-gases in an enclosed environment, so I play it safe. Also - once it starts, it usually keeps going, unless the conditions are changed. As it turned out, a better ventilated enclosure was all that was needed. I've never kept anything requiring high humidity levels because I am lazy, and managing moisture a bit too much upkeep for me, but I am pretty sure there's a way to do it. I eventually found a way to incubate some lizard eggs that required high heat and high humidity, after I lost a couple of batches to mold. That seemed like a major accomplishment, because I have so little experience.
On a lighter note, if there is a mold problem in your general environment (bathroom, kitchen), you could try this: http://www.anapsid.org/slugcleaner.html

 

[Beary Strange]

lol, i do try. sometimes...
other times in equation enters those times in the month and bunch of people ganging up on you to defend...mold.
then i just cant help myself.

sorry for upsetting you, though.

They aren't defending mold, nor is their intent to gang up on you, their intent is to provide knowledge. They're defending the tarantula's right to remain stress-free from something that, at the end of the day, is about your own preferences and is not at all necessary. And this isn't an unusual stance in the hobby by any means. As has been pointed out, if mold is that problematic there's a husbandry issue.

 

[cold blood]

Everyone gets rid of it, like mentioned over and over again from those "campaigning" for mold...that was a good one...lol. Its called spot cleaning, and if its a re-occurring or major issue, there are other husbandry issues to address, like not enough or proper ventilation. :wink:

ya beat me belle;P

 

[xkris]

guys, if you'd watch the news or something you would know that we had major rainfall and 2 huge floods in our region throughout this year. like the biggest in last 100 years. both the floods and the amount of rain fallen on cubic meter recorded. so yes, this year i had mold problems. id like to see you improve your husbandry when ambient humidity is like in a rainforest. stuff are still drying out. when it was at its worst, we had walls "sweat" from excess water in earth and humidity.

but aside from this, changing the sub to clean everything out is just my preference, yes, you got that right. and im going to keep doing it.
the only point you made about it that i acknowledge against it is demolishing spiders burrow. i'll give you that, its wrong and i would find a way to avoid it. then again, i have no burrowing tarantulas.

so, like i said...
to each their own.

 

[Poec54]

Everyone gets rid of it, like mentioned over and over again from those "campaigning" for mold...that was a good one.P

As a representative for the Mold Workers of America Union, I have spent a lifetime campaigning for mold, and find your remarks to be somewhat disconcerting to say the least.

 

[twbillings]

I didn't mean to start a war [emoji13]. That being said, I too had humidity problems this year. I like in the southeast United States and we have had two large/heavy floods. Combine that with my lake and you get a lot of problems. In my adult, or forever home enclosures, I do spot cleaning. I have had one avic enclosure I completely redid. That was to remove all the sub and decor and increase ventilation. The original purpose for this post was to confirm whether or not I should rehouse my LP. Which I'm waiting another molt btw

 

[cold blood]

guys, if you'd watch the news or something you would know that we had major rainfall and 2 huge floods in our region throughout this year. like the biggest in last 100 years. both the floods and the amount of rain fallen on cubic meter recorded. so yes, this year i had mold problems. id like to see you improve your husbandry when ambient humidity is like in a rainforest. stuff are still drying out. when it was at its worst, we had walls "sweat" from excess water in earth and humidity.

You clearly had extenuating circumstances. In that kind of far out extreme case, you may need to do a re-house, but your suggestion that everyone needs to change sub once or twice a year to keep it clean is what's being debated...your circumstances don't effect 90% of the rest of us. Where I live it gets crazy humid all summer, its sticky all the time, yet in that aquarium with the 14 year old sub, I have NEVER ONCE seen a speck of mold at any time (G. porteri).

All these keepers from states like Florida deal with exceptional humidity year round (rainforest-like humidity), yet they don't have mold issues haunting them on a regular basis. If your t is kept indoors, you CAN still control the amount of moisture in the substrate, its just the air...you speak of condensation forming, which is an indicator that you probably need more ventilation (and no misting, overfilling the dish or moistening the sub). Ambient humidity will not soak the substrate just by its self. What it will do is prevent added moisture from dissipating and evaporating, which is a recipe for mold. But still, it was very specific and odd conditions you were dealing with and I wasn't there...you do what YOU need to do, but it doesn't mean its a requirement for the masses by any means.

 

[xkris]

:tongue::tongue:

You clearly had extenuating circumstances. In that kind of far out extreme case, you may need to do a re-house, but your suggestion that everyone needs to change sub once or twice a year to keep it clean is what's being debated...your circumstances don't effect 90% of the rest of us. Where I live it gets crazy humid all summer, its sticky all the time, yet in that aquarium with the 14 year old sub, I have NEVER ONCE seen a speck of mold at any time (G. porteri).

All these keepers from states like Florida deal with exceptional humidity year round (rainforest-like humidity), yet they don't have mold issues haunting them on a regular basis. If your t is kept indoors, you CAN still control the amount of moisture in the substrate, its just the air...you speak of condensation forming, which is an indicator that you probably need more ventilation (and no misting, overfilling the dish or moistening the sub). Ambient humidity will not soak the substrate just by its self. What it will do is prevent added moisture from dissipating and evaporating, which is a recipe for mold. But still, it was very specific and odd conditions you were dealing with and I wasn't there...you do what YOU need to do, but it doesn't mean its a requirement for the masses by any means.

yes its required, im ordering you to do it!
and if you dont im going to come over and change that 14 years old sub your so proud off.:tongue:

 

[BobGrill]

Chill out. No one is defending mold. I don't think Its necessary to rehouse over a tiny bit of mold. Spot cleaning works just fine. If you want to do this, then go ahead. I just think it's unnecessary.

 

[Poec54]

You come up with the air fare to fly over, and I'm sure he'd let you do it. You might possibly have better things to do with your money though. But if you feel that strongly about it...

 

[xkris]

no air fare needed, i'd use my awesome power of teleportation:wink:
but im not that mean, and he's so attached to it. dont want to make him cry over it.

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Chill out. No one is defending mold. I don't think Its necessary to rehouse over a tiny bit of mold. Spot cleaning works just fine. If you want to do this, then go ahead. I just think it's unnecessary.

thank you sir, that's a nice rational view on the whole issue. one that i totally agree with.

 

[bscheidt1020]

lol, i do try. sometimes...
other times in equation enters those times in the month and bunch of people ganging up on you to defend...mold.
then i just cant help myself.

sorry for upsetting you, though.

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that's correct, sir.

Sorry Kris and thanks Vespers for pointing that out. In the days since the comments were made I have recuperated somewhat. Dreams of passive aggressive posts are beginning to diminish and I am returning to my former self. As for mold, I had a few smaller containers have a bit of mold start growing so I pulled it out and let the enclosures dry out before watering again and the mold problem seems to be gone. Oh, by the way, that comment about "those times in the month...." That's dang funny.

 

[cold blood]

no air fare needed, i'd use my awesome power of teleportation:wink:
but im not that mean, and he's so attached to it. dont want to make him cry over it.

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thank you sir, that's a nice rational view on the whole issue. one that i totally agree with.

That's a rational view for you now? Its EXACTLY what myself and others have been saying over and over again, glad you finally get it...lol.

Its certainly not an attachment to the sub (yes, I found that funny), its just my t's home and there's been zero reason for me to disrupt it.

Also glad to see your sense of humor come out on the subject You've seemed pretty defensive and steadfast prior, which you don't need to be, we're all in this hobby basically together....and most of us are pretty easy to get along with

 

[xkris]

That's a rational view for you now? Its EXACTLY what myself and others have been saying over and over again, glad you finally get it...lol.

Its certainly not an attachment to the sub (yes, I found that funny), its just my t's home and there's been zero reason for me to disrupt it.

Also glad to see your sense of humor come out on the subject You've seemed pretty defensive and steadfast prior, which you don't need to be, we're all in this hobby basically together....and most of us are pretty easy to get along with

uhhh you misunderstood me. its not exactly what you were saying. his view lacks certain something that yours had quite a bit off.
and still not agree with yours.

but i can agree to disagree?

p.s. admit it, your attached to it.