What Species of Avic i this?

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There is no specie called Avicularia metallica it´s Avicularia cf. metallica
 
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Musicwolf said:
hmmm . . . was not aware of that distinction - thanks for the info.
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Cf means confer (compare) = Avicularia "probably" metallica

It is not even sure the real Avicularia metallica exists in the hobby, many holotypes and descriptions where destroyed during ww2 so there is no material left to compare it to.

There are 2 different Avicularia cf. metallica in the hobby.

Avicularia cf. metallica "Cayenne, French Guyana"
This is the most common one in the hobby with reddish hair on the sides of the abdomen and on the front part of the abdomen closest to carapace.

Avicularia cf. metallica "Surinam"
This is from the same locality as the real A. metallica is described from and could possible be the real A. metallica but that we might never know? This one has a completely black abdomen without any red hairs.
 
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Falk said:
There is no specie called Avicularia metallica it´s Avicularia cf. metallica
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well it is listed in the wsc

mf metallica Ausserer, 1875....................Suriname [urn:lsid:amnh.org:spidersp:001816]
A. m. Ausserer, 1875: 185 (Df).
A. m. Peters, 2003: 89, f. 359, 362 (Dm).
 
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John Kanker said:
well it is listed in the wsc

mf metallica Ausserer, 1875....................Suriname [urn:lsid:amnh.org:spidersp:001816]
A. m. Ausserer, 1875: 185 (Df).
A. m. Peters, 2003: 89, f. 359, 362 (Dm).
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Read again what i wrote, the holotypes are gone
 
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Falk said:
Read again what i wrote, the holotypes are gone
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you said there is NO species called Avicularia metallica.
and I just pointed out that there is a species called Avicularia metallica. the fact that the holotypes have gone or the paper is rubbish or what we have in the hobby should be called Avicularia cf. metallica is irelivant because there is still a spider described as Avicularia metallica so there is a spider that is called Avicularia metallica, only we do not know which it is.
 
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John Kanker said:
you said there is NO species called Avicularia metallica.
and I just pointed out that there is a species called Avicularia metallica. the fact that the holotypes have gone or the paper is rubbish or what we have in the hobby should be called Avicularia cf. metallica is irelivant because there is still a spider described as Avicularia metallica so there is a spider that is called Avicularia metallica, only we do not know which it is.
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Yes, you are correct, i shouldnt have written the way i did, but they should always be spelled with cf.
 
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I'll take better pics and post them soon. I'm really confused with this one. I've seen Peru purple Avicularia sp which closely resemble this specimen.
 
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Falk said:
Cf means confer (compare) = Avicularia "probably" metallica

It is not even sure the real Avicularia metallica exists in the hobby, many holotypes and descriptions where destroyed during ww2 so there is no material left to compare it to.

There are 2 different Avicularia cf. metallica in the hobby.

Avicularia cf. metallica "Cayenne, French Guyana"
This is the most common one in the hobby with reddish hair on the sides of the abdomen and on the front part of the abdomen closest to carapace.

Avicularia cf. metallica "Surinam"
This is from the same locality as the real A. metallica is described from and could possible be the real A. metallica but that we might never know? This one has a completely black abdomen without any red hairs.
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Interesting . . . I guess mine is Avicularia cf. metallica "Surinam"
then - - white tips on the end of all it's hairs, but no red hairs at all.
 
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Musicwolf said:
Interesting . . . I guess mine is Avicularia cf. metallica "Surinam"
then - - white tips on the end of all it's hairs, but no red hairs at all.
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No, no reddish, white or pink tips. Completely black hairs if it is from Surinam.
 
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It almost looks live an A avic and A cf metallica hybrid :?

Edit: this is a response to the original picture not chris's ninja post.
 
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Chris: Avicularia cf. metallica "Cayenne, French Guyana
 
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Thank you Falk. Now I want to get my hands on a few more Avicularia cf. metallica
Just love the way they look.
 
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Absolutely gorgeous both of them. I'm looking into keeping them as well. Thanks for recomending them. :)
 
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