What should my next T be?

[rk1983]

I have a Rose Hair now, and am looking for my second T. I would like something terrestrial that either likes to web or burrow a lot, or both. If there is one that likes the same temp/humidity range that a Rosie likes, that would be perfect. It doesn't matter how defensive it is, I don't handle my T's. Thanks.

 

[Formerphobe]

Pterinochilus murinus aka OBT (Orange Baboon Tarantula or Orange Bitey Thing)
or
Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens aka GBB (Green bottle blue)

Both like it dry like your rosea, both are webbers, both may be burrowers (probably the OBT more than the GBB), but not necessarily. OBTs in general tend to be a little defensive. GBBs not so much, but can be skittish.

Or get one or a couple of each.

 

[Tym Hollerup]

I have a Rose Hair now, and am looking for my second T. I would like something terrestrial that either likes to web or burrow a lot, or both. If there is one that likes the same temp/humidity range that a Rosie likes, that would be perfect. It doesn't matter how defensive it is, I don't handle my T's. Thanks.

I would suggest a Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens. Or if you're ever so daring, just go out and get yourself a Pterinochilus murinus!

 

[nick19]

i would go for a C.cyaneopubescens (gbb-green bottle blue)
like it dry and they web like mad there skittish and defencive but a really good looking t

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I would suggest a Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens. Or if you're ever so daring, just go out and get yourself a Pterinochilus murinus!

Pterinochilus murinus aka OBT (Orange Baboon Tarantula or Orange Bitey Thing)
or
Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens aka GBB (Green bottle blue)

Both like it dry like your rosea, both are webbers, both may be burrowers (probably the OBT more than the GBB), but not necessarily. OBTs in general tend to be a little defensive. GBBs not so much, but can be skittish.

beet me to it :?

 

[rk1983]

Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens aka GBB (Green bottle blue)

It seems that they(greenbottle blue) are hard to find, and really expensive if you do. Is an Orange Baboon and a Starburst Baboon the same T? A lot of stores around here sell them as the same T.

 

[grayzone]

yea, theyre the same t.... great t, just be mindful of it . you can learn anythin ya want by usin google search

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nobody can tell ya what t is right for ya... kinda wast of time to ask. the P . murinus / OBT IS DEFINITELY a nice t to own, cheap, and easily found. IF I WERE YOU id get one ... or try to work a buy one get one at whatever petstore/dealer ya go to

 

[Formerphobe]

It seems that they(greenbottle blue) are hard to find, and really expensive if you do.

Did you check the classifieds? I thought they were available pretty frequently. $ also depends on size. I got mine as ~1.0" sling for ~$35, if memory serves me. It's great fun to watch them grow through the various juvenile colors and into adult coloration.

Is an Orange Baboon and a Starburst Baboon the same T? A lot of stores around here sell them as the same T.

Yes, at least to the best of my knowledge. Also called Usambara Baboon, for the mountain range where it hails from. Or Usambara Starburst, Golden Starburst, etc. The orange ones are actually a color phase. Not all are that color. Most with these various common names are some color variant of P. murinus.

 

[rk1983]

yea, theyre the same t.... great t, just be mindful of it . you can learn anythin ya want by usin google search

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nobody can tell ya what t is right for ya... kinda wast of time to ask. the P . murinus / OBT IS DEFINITELY a nice t to own, cheap, and easily found. IF I WERE YOU id get one ... or try to work a buy one get one at whatever petstore/dealer ya go to

I wasn't really asking what one was right for me. I was asking what T's fit the description I asked for, since I'm sure there are a lot of people on here that know more about tarantulas than I do.

 

[Formerphobe]

I started with an adult G. rosea, then a couple LP slings to see if I could raise slings adequately. Then to several of the Brachypelma sp and a couple other Grammostola sp, and in there somewhere added my GBB and OBT. I read somewhere (tongue in cheek) that no tarantula collection is complete without at least one of each - OBT and GBB. I've really enjoyed them. They prefer dry, dry, dry even as slings. I had a bit of an unpacking ummm, incident shall we say, with the then 0.5" OBT, but all has been smooth sailing otherwise, to date. IMO, you can't go wrong with either species.

Speaking of OBT color phases, someone on another forum posted a picture of a P. murinus that was cream and orange. Beautiful T! Looked like an orange creamsicle. I'm hoping it passes those genes on. I'll be getting another one!

 

[rk1983]

I'll probably go with the OBT, around here you can get an adult for around $30. There are a couple GBB's, but the shops want at least $200 for an adult. There are no slings, and I prefer an adult.

 

[grayzone]

eah, obt definitely fits the criteria of what your lookin for. they are AWESOME ts, specially if your gettin one thats like 1.5"+.... get 2 theyre cheap lol... you WONT regret it

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i just saw ya prefer adults too. obts will hit a good 5 to 6 " from my understanding ... (mines still a sling) so if ya can get one for around 30 good deal. i personally like to buy in sling/juvie stage ESPECIALLY if theyre fast growers, cuz i like to bulk em up myself lol... half the fun of ownin a t

 

[Formerphobe]

Oh, I should have also added, $ goes up with confirmed sex. OBTs aren't as long-lived as Brachys and Grammostolas, from what I understand. Males can mature at a year or less. I like to raise them from slings. Personal preference. For one thing I know its history (CB vs WC, handling, etc) And it's fun to watch them grow.

Don't discount buying online from a reputable source. Especially if you order more than one T. I've had excellent experiences with three different distributors. My OBT actually came as a freebie. I don't have access to a LPS that carries CB Ts so I have to either order online or wait for the Reptile Show to come around every few months.

 

[malevolentrobot]

the nice thing about C.cyaneopubescens is there's a pretty consistant demand for both sexes, so if an unsexed juvie turns out male you can prolly find an outright buyer to take him off your hands. i didn't have much luck with my sling, but usually if you keep them on the drier side, they will eat and eat and eat and grow and grow and grow.

P. murinus usually is thrown in as a freebie on orders (thats how i ended up with three). i wouldn't buy one alone, since it'll be about the cost of shipping ;P. also these guys are super fun to watch grow since they grow like weeds and web the crap out of everything, so i'd say go with a sling for them.

Speaking of OBT color phases, someone on another forum posted a picture of a P. murinus that was cream and orange. Beautiful T! Looked like an orange creamsicle. I'm hoping it passes those genes on. I'll be getting another one!

not trying to start a hybrid debate in the middle of this thread, but are you talking about the questioned lugardi/murinus hybrid?

 

[Bumblingbear]

For your second T... get a Chaco.

 

[Formerphobe]

not trying to start a hybrid debate in the middle of this thread, but are you talking about the questioned lugardi/murinus hybrid?

No. Reportedly it came from a confirmed P. murinus x P. murinus mating. If I can find the pic and get owner's permission to re-post it, I will.

 

[NikiP]

No. Reportedly it came from a confirmed P. murinus x P. murinus mating. If I can find the pic and get owner's permission to re-post it, I will.

http://www.atshq.org/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=27300

 

[Formerphobe]

Yep, that's it! LOL

 

[baboonfan]

I have a Rose Hair now, and am looking for my second T. I would like something terrestrial that either likes to web or burrow a lot, or both. If there is one that likes the same temp/humidity range that a Rosie likes, that would be perfect. It doesn't matter how defensive it is, I don't handle my T's. Thanks.

Formerphobe had good suggestions. The OBT can be had for 15 dollars at sub adult sizes and matches your criteria. They have an undeserved reputation for aggression as they are really just skittish/defensive.

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It seems that they(greenbottle blue) are hard to find, and really expensive if you do. Is an Orange Baboon and a Starburst Baboon the same T? A lot of stores around here sell them as the same T.

No! The H macs were the starburst baboons during the 1990s. The orange baboon had a similar common name, "golden starburst baboon". They arent similar and should not be bought while going by common names.

 

[Tym Hollerup]

Did you check the classifieds? I thought they were available pretty frequently. $ also depends on size. I got mine as ~1.0" sling for ~$35, if memory serves me. It's great fun to watch them grow through the various juvenile colors and into adult coloration.

However, also be mindful of the $30+ Shipping charge if bought online. I bought my 1st Tarantula from Paul for $40. But then I spent $35 on Shipping! So I really spent $75 on one 0.5" spider!!! However, I didn't know I would get more. I just figured I wanted one and that would be it. 17 T's later...

That being said, I would like to suggest to the OP, get whatever you want. Don't look at the species or anything. Just print a list of all the available T's from an online dealer, close your eyes and throw your finger on one of them! Whichever you are closest to or your finger is most connected too (This is if you land on two on one point) then get that one! You're going to get them all anyway! Also, as was stated before, OBT's are thrown in orders as freebies anyway. So try and buy a GBB and see if they'll throw an OBT sling in for a freebie! Kelly Swift is always giving away free OBT's! That's where I got my first one! I have 4 now! Three slings and one juvie. Also to mention, I just got a great deal on my latest OBT. Only $30 for a 3.5" Confirmed Female!!!

And lastly, if you can locate any, I would suggest a C. darlingi. Or really any of the Horned Baboons. Good luck finding them though! C. darlingi's are the hardest to get your hands on, but you can still find the others pretty easy. A bit costly, but all in all they aren't too bad! Crazy webbers and not as mean as the OBT.

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No! The H macs were the starburst baboons during the 1990s. The orange baboon had a similar common name, "golden starburst baboon". They arent similar and should not be bought while going by common names.

And to add onto that, I will say that if you get a "Starburst Baboon" and it actually turns out to be an H. mac!!! Good luck! Although both are African and both are "mean", the H. mac is a WHOLE DIFFERENT ballgame!!! Both are very Defensive; but I would go as far to say that the H. mac is even Aggressive to a good point as well! Plus the venom is much more potent from an H. mac believe it or not.

 

[Formerphobe]

It seems that they(greenbottle blue) are hard to find, and really expensive if you do. Is an Orange Baboon and a Starburst Baboon the same T? A lot of stores around here sell them as the same T.

No! The H macs were the starburst baboons during the 1990s. The orange baboon had a similar common name, "golden starburst baboon". They arent similar and should not be bought while going by common names.

I thought Togo Starburst and Ornamental Baboon were the common names applied to Heterscodra maculata. And Golden Starburst described one of the color variants of P. murinus. Yet another reason to use scientific binomial names in conjunction with common.

be mindful of the $30+ Shipping charge if bought online.

True. Spring and Fall, barring weather extremes on either shipping or receiving end, may not be as pricey to ship. And if you get more than one, and freebie(s) to boot, it spreads out the shipping cost.