What kind of Orb weavers are these?

[Dragondrool]

(Edit: Ghost is a female black and yellow Argiope)
I was walking alongside my yard looking for butterflies for my collection when I saw the FATTEST orb weaver I've ever seen. I captured her and named her Ghost because the patterns on her thorax look a little bit like a ghost face. As a wonderful surprise another one was right near her! So I captured that one too and named it Artemis. The only thing is I don't know the species or sex, don't really know if you can tell their sex by pattern but I will do some research. Ghost had such a magnificent web, wonderful work.

I had grabbed Artemis thinking it was a female of the same species but afterwords discovered she's something different! She's the white one. Well I'm guessing they're different, I'm not an expert

 

[pannaking22]

Black and yellow one is Argiope aurantia, silver one is Argiope trifasciata.

 

[The wolf]

Oh dear

You have an argiope aurantia and an Argiope trifasciata

Orb weavers (araneus,tetragnatha,uboridae and other related families) are all pretty tricky to keep with a couple of very rare exceptions,argiope is not one,they need A LOT of space,not just enough for the diameter of the orb but including the scaffolding on the side,that's a lot of space,also without perfect space,humidity and ventilation they will not make a web,and slowly starve

These are not beginner spiders,unless you have a monsterous mesh cage I don't think that these are the ideal spiders for you,which is a shame because they are absolutely beautiful spiders

 

[Dragondrool]

Dang really? That's unfortunate, I'll let them go

Oh dear

You have an argiope aurantia and an Argiope trifasciata

Orb weavers (araneus,tetragnatha,uboridae and other related families) are all pretty tricky to keep with a couple of very rare exceptions,argiope is not one,they need A LOT of space,not just enough for the diameter of the orb but including the scaffolding on the side,that's a lot of space,also without perfect space,humidity and ventilation they will not make a web,and slowly starve

These are not beginner spiders,unless you have a monsterous mesh cage I don't think that these are the ideal spiders for you,which is a shame because they are absolutely beautiful spiders

Oh dear

You have an argiope aurantia and an Argiope trifasciata

Orb weavers (araneus,tetragnatha,uboridae and other related families) are all pretty tricky to keep with a couple of very rare exceptions,argiope is not one,they need A LOT of space,not just enough for the diameter of the orb but including the scaffolding on the side,that's a lot of space,also without perfect space,humidity and ventilation they will not make a web,and slowly starve

These are not beginner spiders,unless you have a monsterous mesh cage I don't think that these are the ideal spiders for you,which is a shame because they are absolutely beautiful spiders

I noticed that they both made webs, will they still be able to feed? Also, I got an idea. I have a fishbowl I filled with dirt and I have plants and earth worms etc. and made a little biome. I put in some branches. It's pretty spacey but I don't know if it's enough. If not I'll just release her I also put the arigome in my 10 gal. for right now, there's a bunch of anchor points and hiding places. It's for my GBB sling but he's not big enough yet.

 

[WildSpider]

I noticed that they both made webs, will they still be able to feed? Also, I got an idea. I have a fishbowl I filled with dirt and I have plants and earth worms etc. and made a little biome. I put in some branches. It's pretty spacey but I don't know if it's enough. If not I'll just release her I also put the arigome in my 10 gal. for right now, there's a bunch of anchor points and hiding places. It's for my GBB sling but he's not big enough yet.

That's cool you found these! I've been looking in my area for Argiope aurantia and haven't found one. If you do decide to keep these, good luck with them! They seem like some really fun species to keep !

 

[The wolf]

I noticed that they both made webs, will they still be able to feed? Also, I got an idea. I have a fishbowl I filled with dirt and I have plants and earth worms etc. and made a little biome. I put in some branches. It's pretty spacey but I don't know if it's enough. If not I'll just release her I also put the arigome in my 10 gal. for right now, there's a bunch of anchor points and hiding places. It's for my GBB sling but he's not big enough yet.

A full orb web?

 

[Dragondrool]

A full orb web?

No, more like a little hammock

(Edit: Ghost is a female black and yellow Argiope)
I was walking alongside my yard looking for butterflies for my collection when I saw the FATTEST orb weaver I've ever seen. I captured her and named her Ghost because the patterns on her thorax look a little bit like a ghost face. As a wonderful surprise another one was right near her! So I captured that one too and named it Artemis. The only thing is I don't know the species or sex, don't really know if you can tell their sex by pattern but I will do some research. Ghost had such a magnificent web, wonderful work.

I had grabbed Artemis thinking it was a female of the same species but afterwords discovered she's something different! She's the white one. Well I'm guessing they're different, I'm not an expert

Hello everyone! I have both set them free and plan to keep an eye on them for when they lay their eggs so I can eventually collect them in my ever growing bug collection. I have since decided to keep the tiny orb weaver in my garage who has already laid her eggs. I figured why not give her a comfy place while she eventually dies and then preserve her forever She's so tiny that I can't get a good pic of her! But she's quite small. She's a light brown with speckled white, dark brown, and black. Her thorax is round with a little curve at the end like a black widow

 

[The wolf]

No, more like a little hammock

Well then best release,a hammock like web will be the result of draglines building up as she paces back and forward in the night looking for somewhere to make a web

 

[Crone Returns]

Hello everyone! I have both set them free and plan to keep an eye on them for when they lay their eggs so I can eventually collect them in my ever growing bug collection. I have since decided to keep the tiny orb weaver in my garage who has already laid her eggs. I figured why not give her a comfy place while she eventually dies and then preserve her forever She's so tiny that I can't get a good pic of her! But she's quite small. She's a light brown with speckled white, dark brown, and black. Her thorax is round with a little curve at the end like a black widow

Are you positive she's an orb weaver?

 

[Dragondrool]

Are you positive she's an orb weaver?

Yes

 

[pannaking22]

No, more like a little hammock


Hello everyone! I have both set them free and plan to keep an eye on them for when they lay their eggs so I can eventually collect them in my ever growing bug collection. I have since decided to keep the tiny orb weaver in my garage who has already laid her eggs. I figured why not give her a comfy place while she eventually dies and then preserve her forever She's so tiny that I can't get a good pic of her! But she's quite small. She's a light brown with speckled white, dark brown, and black. Her thorax is round with a little curve at the end like a black widow

That one is a theridiid, likely Steatoda or Parasteatoda.