What did i just buy at the mesa expo??? Thailand Black Bird Spider???

melijoc

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Its a mature male haplopelma albostriatum, ur better off selling it online cuz it might not have much time to live.the abdomen says it all,the smaller it is means that it is at its later stages. Your lucky if it lasts u a month
 

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-im just a curious buyer no need to be negative with me, i buy then research the guy told me he knew nothing about it so thats that no big deal .....the word bird sealed the deal :)
Negative with you? I gave you some great friendly opinions. Buy first then research? Buy from some one that knows "nothing about it" ? "the word bird bird sealed the deal"? I'm I being trolled here? God help this hobby! :barf::barf::barf:
 

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Its a mature male haplopelma albostriatum, ur better off selling it online cuz it might not have much time to live.the abdomen says it all,the smaller it is means that it is at its later stages. Your lucky if it lasts u a month
how did you come by albostriatum? If you're referencing the leg striping, quite a few Haplo males have that.
 

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Its a mature male haplopelma albostriatum, ur better off selling it online cuz it might not have much time to live.the abdomen says it all,the smaller it is means that it is at its later stages. Your lucky if it lasts u a month
:barf::barf::barf: PLEASE don't sell this male as a Haplopelma albostriatum, NOBODY can say for sure what this spider is. You have a unidentified mature male Asian spider.

Later, Tom
 

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Negative with you? I gave you some great friendly opinions. Buy first then research? Buy from some one that knows "nothing about it" ? "the word bird bird sealed the deal"? I'm I being trolled here? God help this hobby! :barf::barf::barf:
like i said 15 bucks is nothing to me maybe someone whos broke would be all mad about it and i was just messing with the bird word i knew it would bother you though, relax bro how about look below and disagree or agree with what this gentleman is saying that would put your expert knowledge to good use i really just wanna know what this T is not about all the stuff your saying but thank you

Its a mature male haplopelma albostriatum, ur better off selling it online cuz it might not have much time to live.the abdomen says it all,the smaller it is means that it is at its later stages. Your lucky if it lasts u a month
wait haplopelma albostriatum does make sense... anyone else agree with this? and what kinda sickness do you think it has... ive had WC before and their always this tiny until i get some food into them but like everyone has been saying WC dont last long and i agree.
 

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wait haplopelma albostriatum does make sense... anyone else agree with this? and what kinda sickness do you think it has... ive had WC before and their always this tiny until i get some food into them but like everyone has been saying WC dont last long and i agree.
why do you think its sick? as for Id it could be any male Haplopelma they look almost identical for the most part
 

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:barf::barf::barf: PLEASE don't sell this male as a Haplopelma albostriatum, NOBODY can say for sure what this spider is. You have a unidentified mature male Asian spider.

Later, Tom
go to tarantulacanada.com and go to haplopelma gallery, click on mature male h. Albostriatum. This looks just like the pic that he posted. This thread should die out after you guys see what i saw. Good fight and good night
 

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i personally think its healthy but aquatics is my expertise im here to learn from you experts. hes doings really well , it looked like he was scrunched up in a ball for the longest time the container it was in wasnt even big enough to be off the bottom of it... :/ does anyone else think its Haplopelma ?

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go to tarantulacanada.com and go to haplopelma gallery, click on mature male h. Albostriatum. This looks just like the pic that he posted. This thread should die out after you guys see what i saw. Good fight and good night
it also looks identical to a Haplopelma minax your the only one to say this so i want to see if anyone else has opinion on it before i stop posting. do they live in the same conditions? im not gonna sell it at all its a cool little guy :) im gonna ask LLL reptile tomorrow what it is i need to know for sure so it lives in the right conditiions
your right about haplopelma albostriatum it looks more like that then the minax seems to be ALL black
 
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i was just messing with the bird word i knew it would bother you though
Thats cool, I can handle some messing with;) I just feel bad for the idiots that buy these spiders not knowing what the sex or species is when they get them from these "dealers". I was trying to help you, more importantly the hundreds of spiders that will suffer from ignorant buyers.

And again , there is no way to say for sure what this spider is.

Later, Tom
 

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go to tarantulacanada.com and go to haplopelma gallery, click on mature male h. Albostriatum. This looks just like the pic that he posted. This thread should die out after you guys see what i saw. Good fight and good night
no. No, a random pic in a gallery doesn't settle what that is. There are a number of MM Haplos that look very similar. All labelling that an albostriatum is going to do is furthy muddy the waters on that T's identity.

Hacker, the best you'll get from a pic ID is what Philth already told you - unidentified MM Asian spider. Please do NOT resell it as a H albostriatum, minax or whatever.
 

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Thats cool, I can handle some messing with;) I just feel bad for the idiots that buy these spiders not knowing what the sex or species is when they get them from these "dealers". I was trying to help you, more importantly the hundreds of spiders that will suffer from ignorant buyers.

And again , there is no way to say for sure what this spider is.

Later, Tom
theres a way to help people without being a douche bag, i didn't do anything wrong its your opinion not fact, you dont just call someone an idiot because you know more about a spider, it was literally the cheapest for its size i saw so i wanted it, i dont like slings and the older Ts were pretty expensive when i only brought cash im going back tomorrow with plastic to get some nice stuff...

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no. No, a random pic in a gallery doesn't settle what that is. There are a number of MM Haplos that look very similar. All labelling that an albostriatum is going to do is furthy muddy the waters on that T's identity.

Hacker, the best you'll get from a pic ID is what Philth already told you - unidentified MM Asian spider. Please do NOT resell it ase a H albostriatum, minax or whatever.
im not gonna sell it im just wondering what care guide i can follow in all honesty
 
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go to tarantulacanada.com and go to haplopelma gallery, click on mature male h. Albostriatum. This looks just like the pic that he posted. This thread should die out after you guys see what i saw. Good fight and good night
Welcome to the hobby, you've got a lot to learn thought before you can ID from a photo. Tarantulascanda.com has a wonderful gallery, ID'ing from a photo is frowned upon though , as in this case especially. It has already been mentioned in this thread that many species of male Haplopelma look alike. Comparing photo's is worthless.

Later, Tom
 

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I'd hazard care is pretty basic with regards to most Asian terrestrial / fossorial. Deep substrate for burrowing and a water dish. However, seeing how that is a mature male, it may not burrow. It may just wander about looking for a mate. I would give it the substrate to burrow if it chooses and just let it ride out its remaining days.
 

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i personally think its healthy but aquatics is my expertise im here to learn from you experts. hes doings really well , it looked like he was scrunched up in a ball for the longest time the container it was in wasnt even big enough to be off the bottom of it... :/ does anyone else think its Haplopelma ?

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it also looks identical to a Haplopelma minax your the only one to say this so i want to see if anyone else has opinion on it before i stop posting. do they live in the same conditions? im not gonna sell it at all its a cool little guy :) im gonna ask LLL reptile tomorrow wtf it is i need to know for sure so it lives in the right conditiions
your right about haplopelma albostriatum it looks more like that then the minax seems to be ALL black
the first pic you had it was scrunched up, because it was stress, if it was a female that would be because its not in its burrow. Haplopelmas need deep substrate to burrow. Since its mature Male it probably will not burrow for you. I don't think you realize that your little guy is not going to live very much longer. As soon as Male mature the Clock is literally ticking down from them. so you should realize that and also be aware that it might not eat anymore and wonder around lot if it has any juice left in him. As far as Id goes again no one of knowing. Haplopelma females are pretty easy to ID, Males not so much.
 

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the first pic you had it was scrunched up, because it was stress, if it was a female that would be because its not in its burrow. Haplopelmas need deep substrate to burrow. Since its mature Male it probably will not burrow for you. I don't think you realize that your little guy is not going to live very much longer. As soon as Male mature the Clock is literally ticking down from them. so you should realize that and also be aware that it might not eat anymore and wonder around lot if it has any juice left in him. As far as Id goes again no one of knowing. Haplopelma females are pretty easy to ID, Males not so much.
that is very smart and explains why a goliath i had died just after a year of buying it, it was a old mature male this enlightens me alot, thanks so much now i know not to buy any mature males tomorrow. it really looked small balled up like that i didnt think it was an adult!!!! WOW!
 

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that is very smart and explains why a goliath i had died just after a year of buying it, it was a old mature male this enlightens me alot, thanks so much now i know not to buy any mature males tomorrow. it really looked small balled up like that i didnt think it was an adult!!!! WOW!
females are always the desirable sex of T's, because they live longer and Males are only wanted for breeding purposes. Also females tend to be larger than their male counter parts as well. Males tend to be slimmer and more legging if that makes sense.
 

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theres a way to help people without being a douche bag,
Sorry if you didn't like my douche bag opinions lol, Really I meant no harm.

it was literally the cheapest for its size i saw so i wanted it, i dont like slings and the older Ts were pretty expensive when i only brought cash
lol you didn't want a older T because they were expensive, so you bought a identified mature male for 15 bucks {D Again my opinions were just trying to help you as a buyer, sorry if I offended you or your dealer.

thanks for the entertainment though. Im done.

Later, Tom
 

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Sorry if you didn't like my douche bag opinions lol, Really I meant no harm.



lol you didn't want a older T because they were expensive, so you bought a identified mature male for 15 bucks {D Again my opinions were just trying to help you as a buyer, sorry if I offended you or your dealer.

thanks for the entertainment though. Im done.

Later, Tom
im still satisfied i do think i was tricked when i bought it, i think it was put in that tiny container so it had to ball up to appear to be an sub adult or something i thought i was buying a juvenile/sub adult :/ however i didnt take a hard loss though id still like to know about it and what it exactly is if theres anything else i can provide to help, btw everything at that LLL reptile table was a male i can tell whats a male just by abdomen size pretty accurately.. what rip offs it even looks like they labled the T wrong im gonna say something today when i go back to the expo
 

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You cannot accurately tell if it's a mature male by abdomen size. I bought a 4 inch A. avicularia that had an abdomen the size of a raisin, and it's a female. Though you may not like Tom's humor what he's saying is legit. You shouldn't just be buying random stuff, and then trying to figure out care later. I'm sure we have all done it at one point or another, however, after a little more knowledge and after being suckered into buying mature males more than once as you have, you should really be paying attention to who you're buying from rather than price. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but c'mon man!
 

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You cannot accurately tell if it's a mature male by abdomen size. I bought a 4 inch A. avicularia that had an abdomen the size of a raisin, and it's a female. Though you may not like Tom's humor what he's saying is legit. You shouldn't just be buying random stuff, and then trying to figure out care later. I'm sure we have all done it at one point or another, however, after a little more knowledge and after being suckered into buying mature males more than once as you have, you should really be paying attention to who you're buying from rather than price. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but c'mon man!
i just know theres more males with smaller abdomens and more females with larger ones so thats where i get that from so i just use that as a rule of thumb unless it has hooks or you have a molt to examine thats all i can do besides trust people, im not a spider genius at all.... these people are suppose to be who i buy from, but i live and learn! i havnt seen any labled males with big abdodems well not bigger then a females thats right next to it. never ever have. not saying theres a female with a small one but theres a male with a smaller one. idk if that makes any sense i just go with small butt long skinny legs male thats just me i have alot of experience with T's just not book smart with them and im trying to get there but how can i be motivated with such mean comments. you can choose to say things nice or choose to be mean cmon i got on here and trust u guys more then the people i got it from obviously so give me some credit i dont even know you guys but you seem very smart about this all i can do is absorb your info so keep it coming!
this Haplopelma Albostriatum looks just like how mine does in the pic above!!
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