What Avicularia is this 1.5" specimen?

[deifiler]

Hiya,

I'm confused as to what this avicularia is. I bought it as "white toe" at the size of 10mm or so, and at this stage now, it definately isn't what I percieve as a whitetoe - Avicularia Metallica

Any help would be most appreciated, I've took some better photoes since my last posting...

Cheers

 

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Second pic, same pose but closer

 

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View focusing on the abdominal markings

 

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Last one, more detail of the above picture.

Any help would be most appreciated, apologies if this is a pest post and irritates anyone

 

[nemesis6sic6]

hi

I don't have A. metallica so i wouldn't know if its just a phase. I do infact have A. bicegoi which looks identical to the picture. If you do have a bicegoi in your hands, then you are very lucky to have this rare species. any ways have a nice day
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Edit : I didn't see the pictures well, it's defenetly A. aurantica. I tought it was bicegoi but yours dosn't seam to have grey legs and body, its more like a greenish.
any ways have a nice day


geo

 

[looseyfur]

I agree with nemi.

loosey

 

[esmoot]

100% Avicularia metallica. It's a sling still. It's not going to look like an adult. Make that 1000% Avicularia metallica.

 

[MrDeranged]

Most avicularia look really really similiar when still with their sling colors.

On the other hand, you can see the white on the tips of the setae on the t which is one of the differences between A. metallica and A. avicularia.

Give it some more time, but for now I have to agree with Eric and say A. metallica

Scott

 

[Pyrdacor]

How big is this fellow now?
I got my metallica at an approx. size of less than 0,5". It didn't look like that actually and now its a real metallica at about 1", maybe a bit larger. That's how she looks (a bit blurry because I took the pic while she was walking but you can see the coloration)

 

[rosehaired1979]

Nice Pic and I agree to wait till it because a adult to tell what it is and Pyrdacor cute pic my A.Metallica is 1/2" and hopefully will molt soon but nice pic

 

[Charlie]

Metalica?

Maybe this is my inexperiance talking but that looks an awful lot like a A. Avicularia.

What is the difference between an A Metallica and Avicularia?

-Charlie

 

[Code Monkey]

Re: Metalica?

Originally posted by Charlie
What is the difference between an A Metallica and Avicularia?

Mostly the fact that metallica has the white tipped setae and other Avics don't. Their toes are often less pink and more white as well when full grown (but still decidedly pinkish ime).

Overall, though, not that different.

I think of the Avics in the trade, get yourself a versicolor, avicularia, purpurea, minatrix, and aurantica and you've pretty much covered their major appearance morphs. If you're spending the money to cover the others you either are a completist who's fascinated by the very subtle differences or you've been duped by too much hype.

Some really good metallic photos showing off the white tipped setae are here:
http://www.bighairyspiders.com/pic_metallica.shtml

 

[SpiderTwin]

Do you have any other pics that are slightly brighter?

Ya know guys, for some reason I'm thinking more along the lines of A. minatrix. Maybe it's just the pics, but I'm judging this by the orangish/peach colored satae around the carapace. I don't remember any of the other Avics having that coloring at all.

I'm also thinking that at 1.5", the abdomen striping is awful profound. I would think at this point, it would begin to darken on the other Avics.

Just my thoughts,

 

[Code Monkey]

Originally posted by SpiderTwin
Ya know guys, for some reason I'm thinking more along the lines of A. minatrix. Maybe it's just the pics, but I'm judging this by the orangish/peach colored satae around the carapace. I don't remember any of the other Avics having that coloring at all.

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Just my thoughts

Minatrix is much rarer and significantly more expensive in the pet trade. It is therefore extremely unlikely, albeit possible - a dealer did almost sell me a vial labeled AM for a minatrix but realised he was about to sell me a metallica, I guess it could go the other way - that you would have received a minatrix for a metallica.

 

[deifiler]

I doubt it's metallica, this is a picture of a similar sized metallica, which grew into an adult metallica too.

http://atshq.org/pix/SCHUMM/boots8.jpg

I'll get some more pictures tonight though, thanks once again

I'll be sure to get bright, clear pics, especially of the abdomen and one with a tape measure or something else for scale

 

[esmoot]

The metallica in that pic is a much younger one. The color changes are drastic throughout its life. Just chill and wait. Here are some pics that I took for you to see of one of my metallicas at 1.5".

 

[SkyeSpider]

First off, Avicularia sp. are my specialty

From what I can tell in your pictures, it's either A. avicularia, or A. metallica. I'm leaning heavily toward A. metallica, though. The white tipped hairs are the key difference.

The two species aren't very different in coloring, at all, especially at that size. It's never going to be the same blue as a versicolor spiderling (as some people expect). Just stick it out, and see how it looks in a few more molts.

If we were betting, I'd be extremely comfortable to put money on it being A. metallica.

-Bryan

 

[MizM]

My a. metallica has a very distinct marking on her opisthoma, makes her the easiest T to identiffy:

 

[deifiler]

Originally posted by MizM
My a. metallica has a very distinct marking on her opisthoma, makes her the easiest T to identiffy:

Maybe so... But the A.Slayer owns Metallica anyday....








=D

 

[MizM]

;P


Metallica kicked Slayer's BUTT when they were a bunch of drunks, O.K?