Wbat is the parabuthus venom spray effect on eyes!

aragogthemonster

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I just bought myself a parabuthus transvaalicus 5i. Theoretically if the scorp had to spray me in the eyes what should i exoect. To my knowkedge the venom is neurotoxic so effect should not be as severe as cytotoxic venom and as long as i woul rinse my eyes symptomes shoukd not be defibitive. That s wgat i think idk what do you guys think?

I just bought myself a parabuthus transvaalicus 5i. Theoretically if the scorp had to spray me in the eyes what should i exoect. To my knowkedge the venom is neurotoxic so effect should not be as severe as cytotoxic venom and as long as i woul rinse my eyes symptomes shoukd not be defibitive. That s wgat i think idk what do you guys think?
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viper69

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I just bought myself a parabuthus transvaalicus 5i. Theoretically if the scorp had to spray me in the eyes what should i exoect. To my knowkedge the venom is neurotoxic so effect should not be as severe as cytotoxic venom and as long as i woul rinse my eyes symptomes shoukd not be defibitive. That s wgat i think idk what do you guys think?
I wouldn’t assume that. Your eyes are the only exposed part of the CNS!
 

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Parabuthus transvaalicus are easy Buthids to work with and they simply will not spray venom unless violently antagonized. Venom production is too metabolically and time consuming expensive.

Effects similar to taking a shot of mace or pepper spray. Intense pain, teary red eyes, involuntary blinking, light sensitivity, blurred vision, and possibly temporary blindness but if untreated may become worse. Rinse immediately and seek medical attention. Or wear protective glasses. But it shouldn't ever be a serious concern they are a pretty chill species yet do not stick your face up close to one either.
 

aragogthemonster

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Parabuthus transvaalicus are easy Buthids to work with and they simply will not spray venom unless violently antagonized. Venom production is too metabolically and time consuming expensive.

Effects similar to taking a shot of mace or pepper spray. Intense pain, teary red eyes, involuntary blinking, light sensitivity, blurred vision, and possibly temporary blindness but if untreated may become worse. Rinse immediately and seek medical attention. Or wear protective glasses. But it shouldn't ever be a serious concern they are a pretty chill species yet do not stick your face up close to one either.
Thx that was the answer i was looking for
 

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Considering I just saw a kid walking his scorp on his face last week (trying to get internet points on another site), I just want to make sure that's not why you're asking.

Mucous membranes are my third favorite way of introducing chemicals into the human body for the purpose of physiological effect. Some call it medication administration, it's technically poison and how to give enough of it that the body can't circumvent it.

That same science saved my own eyeball when I cut it on sheet metal. The antibiotics were applied locally...to my eye, to kill bacteria producing at a rate of 1 million per hour. In three hours, that's 4 million bacteria. Fun fact, the tissue of the actually eyeball heals incredibly fast, so fast that it can actually trap the bacteria underneath the new [scar] tissue. That's how you lose your eye. Literally any puncture wound would out you at the same risk.

But the pain....until it heals anyway, is borderline unbearable. I couldn't function. I wasn't screaming or writhing, but I could barely make a phone call for a ride...I was in so much pain. The reason why? I'm so glad you asked. Nerve endings!!!! The eye is riddled with them.

First aid, in case you choose to need it: you need to immediately cover BOTH EYES because they do not move independently, so every time you move your good eye your are exacerbating the physical/mechanical damage to the eye. I personally have different protocols for first aid depending on the substance...what can be flushed with water and what cannot is a matter of permanent disability. "Eyeballs sloughing off," is a phrase I have heard come from the mouth of a trained professional in regards to flushing when it should've been a brushing. I'm not smart enough but definitely not dumb enough to advise on scorpion venom lol. You need someone else to drive you obviously, but you'll want to get to the nearest opthalmologist (not an optometrist), for antibiotics and ANESTHETIC. You only get so much surface area to see through, so when you scratch your lenses there is no fixing it. That's the scar tissue. While the anesthetic makes you able to walk and talk at the same time again, it does promote scar tissue and thus vision loss. And because of that some of them are reluctant to give it. Mix another chemical, poison, venom into the mix and they may be too afraid of the liability to use it. Just warning you. Suppose it wouldn't be a bad idea to bring some sting reports and research grade papers in their venom. Read this enough times you won't need to refer to it because when the time comes, no reading or screens until your eye is healed, if they can save it.

I was told to prepare myself for worst case scenario and referred to a company that makes prosthetics. At the time I had a dog with two different colored eyes so that was my plan... Twas nothing but a scratch and I was shopping for a fake eye.

I hope I've talked you out of doing something no other species on earth would ever dream of doing....
 

aragogthemonster

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Considering I just saw a kid walking his scorp on his face last week (trying to get internet points on another site), I just want to make sure that's not why you're asking.

Mucous membranes are my third favorite way of introducing chemicals into the human body for the purpose of physiological effect. Some call it medication administration, it's technically poison and how to give enough of it that the body can't circumvent it.

That same science saved my own eyeball when I cut it on sheet metal. The antibiotics were applied locally...to my eye, to kill bacteria producing at a rate of 1 million per hour. In three hours, that's 4 million bacteria. Fun fact, the tissue of the actually eyeball heals incredibly fast, so fast that it can actually trap the bacteria underneath the new [scar] tissue. That's how you lose your eye. Literally any puncture wound would out you at the same risk.

But the pain....until it heals anyway, is borderline unbearable. I couldn't function. I wasn't screaming or writhing, but I could barely make a phone call for a ride...I was in so much pain. The reason why? I'm so glad you asked. Nerve endings!!!! The eye is riddled with them.

First aid, in case you choose to need it: you need to immediately cover BOTH EYES because they do not move independently, so every time you move your good eye your are exacerbating the physical/mechanical damage to the eye. I personally have different protocols for first aid depending on the substance...what can be flushed with water and what cannot is a matter of permanent disability. "Eyeballs sloughing off," is a phrase I have heard come from the mouth of a trained professional in regards to flushing when it should've been a brushing. I'm not smart enough but definitely not dumb enough to advise on scorpion venom lol. You need someone else to drive you obviously, but you'll want to get to the nearest opthalmologist (not an optometrist), for antibiotics and ANESTHETIC. You only get so much surface area to see through, so when you scratch your lenses there is no fixing it. That's the scar tissue. While the anesthetic makes you able to walk and talk at the same time again, it does promote scar tissue and thus vision loss. And because of that some of them are reluctant to give it. Mix another chemical, poison, venom into the mix and they may be too afraid of the liability to use it. Just warning you. Suppose it wouldn't be a bad idea to bring some sting reports and research grade papers in their venom. Read this enough times you won't need to refer to it because when the time comes, no reading or screens until your eye is healed, if they can save it.

I was told to prepare myself for worst case scenario and referred to a company that makes prosthetics. At the time I had a dog with two different colored eyes so that was my plan... Twas nothing but a scratch and I was shopping for a fake eye.

I hope I've talked you out of doing something no other species on earth would ever dream of doing....
So the answer your question no i m not an idiot i realise the potential threats of this animal and i m not stupid to put myself in a dangerous situation. I was asking about it s effects cos i want to know if i can feel comfortable when i am near it such as in feeding times or if i should try and lean back everyrime i pop the lid to avoid well... you know the potential permanent blindness. I saw this guy on yt davids feed getting monocled cobra venom into his eyes. He clearly explained he was not to worried since it has primarily neurotoxic venom and proceeded to rinse his eyes out and now he seems fine. So that intrigued me...yeah
 

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Of course every sensible household has at least one of these in a place where it can be located with eyes closed.
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I just bought myself a parabuthus transvaalicus 5i. Theoretically if the scorp had to spray me in the eyes what should i exoect. To my knowkedge the venom is neurotoxic so effect should not be as severe as cytotoxic venom and as long as i woul rinse my eyes symptomes shoukd not be defibitive. That s wgat i think idk what do you guys think?


Sorry about the typos
Well, if you're not stupid, don't aggravate the scorpion, as it will be in an extremely defensive state to spray venom at you.

Secondly, there are products known to man and they are called: safety glasses.

Good luck.
 

Johnn

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You're not gonna get sprayed. The Pt is the only scorpion I've ever had that I've tried to get stung by but that wouldn't. Never saw it spray either. I will say though, it did have the tendency to have a drop of venom coming outta it's stinger.
 

aragogthemonster

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You're not gonna get sprayed. The Pt is the only scorpion I've ever had that I've tried to get stung by but that wouldn't. Never saw it spray either. I will say though, it did have the tendency to have a drop of venom coming outta it's stinger.
Yeah
I have had her for a while now she is so chill i can free handle her
 

Nocturnalnature

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You're not gonna get sprayed. The Pt is the only scorpion I've ever had that I've tried to get stung by but that wouldn't. Never saw it spray either. I will say though, it did have the tendency to have a drop of venom coming outta it's stinger.
Why?
 

Johnn

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You are nuts dude what are you a masochist?
No. Just a venom/animal enthusiast. I have been stung by a whole bunch of different types of venomous. Androctonus australis, Androctonus bicolor, Leirus quinquestriatus, and most recently Hottentotta tamulus. https://arachnoboards.com/reviews-reports/hottentotta-tamulus.1375/
Not to mention Scolopendra subsinipes and the eastern copperhead. I just find venom's effects on the human body super interesting. All my bites are recorded in the bite/sting reports on this site (except for the Leirus quinquestriatus and of course the southern copperhead, being that it's a reptile). Id actually stopped posting on here for awhile because it seemed like I just got attacked every time I posted on here about stings. But I decided to get back on to report my H. tamulus sting.
 
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