Wasp rescue chances of recovery?

[SpiderBrains]

I found a wasp dragging a large spider on the ground, and managed to steal the spider. What are it's chances of recovery? Has anyone successfully nursed a stung spider back to health? I'll post pictures later for ID help, as I currently have a spotty internet connection.

 

[Jones0911]

Why do people do this for?

Let nature take care of its self, you can't play god

 

[Tanner Dzula]

to be honest, chances are, if the spider is already being dragged to the burrow, then its too late for it. it sucks, but it might eb worth it putting it back were you found it and letting the wasp do its business. it does suck to see a spider die, but Wasps themselves are also beautiful creatures and they are just doing what wasps do. eat spiders.

 

[Ungoliant]

I found a wasp dragging a large spider on the ground, and managed to steal the spider. What are it's chances of recovery? Has anyone successfully nursed a stung spider back to health?

 

[SpiderBrains]

The wasp caught one spider, it should be perfectly capable of catching another. I've been wanting to get into tarantulas for a while, and thought this might be a good opportunity. Since posting I have found a success story where someone rehabilitated a tarantula that was stung.

 

[Tanner Dzula]

The wasp caught one spider, it should be perfectly capable of catching another. I've been wanting to get into tarantulas for a while, and thought this might be a good opportunity. Since posting I have found a success story where someone rehabilitated a tarantula that was stung.

there are a number of factors that play into this.

keep in mind that most wasps and their young act in the way of a parasite, where they usually sting and lay the eggs of their young into the body of other insects/arthropods, by doing this, they ensure a safe place for the larva to grow and plenty of food to eat.

IF this was just the sting to paralyze the tarantula, and it had not actually lain any of the young inside, its very possible it could survive, as wasps dont sting to "kill", they need the effected animal to live after all.

BUT this again depends on the type of wasp and such.

if the wasp had already lain its young, which is doubtful as it was not at the burrow yet, then the spider will most likely recover, only to die at a time later when the larva start to develop and essentially eat it from the inside out.

it sounds like you may have stopped the process right in the middle and prevented the young to be lain, in which case the spider may very well survive, it all depends again on the type of wasp, the type of spider, age of the spider, ETC.

 

[SpiderBrains]

I think I'm going to take a few pictures, then "release" this one. I thought at first it might be a tarantula sling, but now that I've looked at some pictures I think it is an adult female spider of the hogna genus. I don't think I have the patience to nurse a paralyzed spider for months that likely won't live long after that anyway.

 

[MetalMan2004]

Why do people do this for?

Let nature take care of its self, you can't play god

There seems to be a lot of these lately too...

The wasp caught one spider, it should be perfectly capable of catching another. I've been wanting to get into tarantulas for a while, and thought this might be a good opportunity. Since posting I have found a success story where someone rehabilitated a tarantula that was stung.

How would you like it if you spent all day hunting for your dinner, finally had success and then someone came by and said “Nope this is mine. No dinner for you tonight because I’m taking this one.”

 

[SpiderBrains]

There seems to be a lot of these lately too...



How would you like it if you spent all day hunting for your dinner, finally had success and then someone came by and said “Nope this is mine. No dinner for you tonight because I’m taking this one.”

I don't see this as "playing god" I'm just as much a part of nature as the wasp or the spider. Any number of other creatures could have interrupted the process just as easily.

 

[miss moxie]

How would you like it if you spent all day hunting for your dinner, finally had success and then someone came by and said “Nope this is mine. No dinner for you tonight because I’m taking this one.”

To be fair...that happens in nature too. Having prey stolen by something bigger and badder than you.

I personally hate wasps. They're pointless angry wanna-be-bees who make stupid saliva-mud-paper houses and enjoy inflicting pain and suffering.

Yes I know they're beneficial insects, they're still pointless.

I'm just bitter because as a child I got bit 6 times in a row by yellow jackets while trying to go down my god darn slide in the back yard.

Stupid wasps.

 

[MetalMan2004]

I don't see this as "playing god" I'm just as much a part of nature as the wasp or the spider. Any number of other creatures could have interrupted the process just as easily.

I said nothing about playing God. Everyone on this forum, myself included, plays God every day with our captive bred animals. All I’m saying is you stole his hard-worked dinner for a .001 percent chance that the T will survive. I hope it does though because it’d be a big waste if you took it just for it to end up in the trash.

As for how to keep it alive, get an eye dropper and drop water on its mouth several times a day to keep it hydrated. If it drinks it might survive. Once it starts moving again you can maybe try prekilled prey.

To be fair...that happens in nature too. Having prey stolen by something bigger and badder than you.

I personally hate wasps. They're pointless angry wanna-be-bees who make stupid saliva-mud-paper houses and enjoy inflicting pain and suffering.

Yes I know they're beneficial insects, they're still pointless.

I'm just bitter because as a child I got bit 6 times in a row by yellow jackets while trying to go down my god darn slide in the back yard.

Stupid wasps.

You’re right that it happens in nature too. But usually the one that takes the prey still eats it.

Also, wasps can’t be beneficial AND pointless at the same time.

 

[miss moxie]

You’re right that it happens in nature too. But usually the one that takes the prey still eats it.

Also, wasps can’t be beneficial AND pointless at the same time.

Don't argue with me. I suffer from severe WASPTSD. Wasp related PTSD. They're stupid and I hate them. Bees > Hornets every single time.

 

[Tanner Dzula]

There seems to be a lot of these lately too...



How would you like it if you spent all day hunting for your dinner, finally had success and then someone came by and said “Nope this is mine. No dinner for you tonight because I’m taking this one.”

i mean, technically speaking, in nature this happens literally all the time.

can you imagine how many times a group of cheetahs has been enjoying a kill that they worked so hard to get, only for a few lionesses to come up and just literally take it away from them?

if he had killed the wasp, that would be one thing, but the wasp will live to find a new spider, and there are plenty of spiders out there.

 

[MetalMan2004]

Don't argue with me. I suffer from severe WASPSTD. Wasp related PSTD. They're stupid and I hate them. Bees > Hornets every single time.

As long as it isn’t Wasp std then there’s no judgement here

i mean, technically speaking, in nature this happens literally all the time.

can you imagine how many times a group of cheetahs has been enjoying a kill that they worked so hard to get, only for a few lionesses to come up and just literally take it away from them?

if he had killed the wasp, that would be one thing, but the wasp will live to find a new spider, and there are plenty of spiders out there.

I’ll refer you to my earlier post. The lioness isn’t wasting the stolen kill, its eating it. There is a 99 percent chance this kill will end up in the trash...

 

[miss moxie]

I’ll refer you to my earlier post. The lioness isn’t wasting the stolen kill, its eating it.

OP, you know what you must do.


You must eat the spider.

 

[MetalMan2004]

OP, you know what you must do.


You must eat the spider.

I like where this is going

 

[Tanner Dzula]

I like where this is going

agreed.

Will the OP eat the spider? Next week on Fear factor.

 

[PidderPeets]

I'm just waiting on a picture. Is it actually a tarantula or wolf spider like the OP's second thought? Is it important? Not particularly. But it's what will leave me in suspense more than whether he eats it or not

 

[Jones0911]

I said nothing about playing God. Everyone on this forum, myself included, plays God every day with our captive bred animals. All I’m saying is you stole his hard-worked dinner for a .001 percent chance that the T will survive. I hope it does though because it’d be a big waste if you took it just for it to end up in the trash.

As for how to keep it alive, get an eye dropper and drop water on its mouth several times a day to keep it hydrated. If it drinks it might survive. Once it starts moving again you can maybe try prekilled prey.



You’re right that it happens in nature too. But usually the one that takes the prey still eats it.

Also, wasps can’t be beneficial AND pointless at the same time.

We raise captive bred animals to breed more...we don't take food from them we give them 3x the amount they'd ever see in the wild big difference

 

[SpiderBrains]

I ended up leaving it under a pile of leaves for something else to find. I have some pictures I'll crop and add in a second.