WARNING- HR6311 now HR669

JohnEDove

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Just got the following email notification from USARK
"WARNING- HR6311 Reintroduced as HR669- BAN ON BOAS & PYTHONS!!

Below you will read a press release by the most powerful Animal Rights Group on the planet. As predicted by USARK, HR6311 has been reintroduced as HR 669. If passed as written this bill will BAN the import, purchase, sale, trade and breeding of many, many reptiles and amphibians... including Boa, Python and Eunectes. If this bill passes it will destroy the reptile community and industry overnight! PLEASE JOIN USARK IN FIGHTING HR669!!!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/usarkHR6311/index.html

Read about this travesty here.
http://www.hsus.org/press_and_publi...tic_animal_importation_introduced_012709.html
 

Endagr8

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I don't think it bans anything but the import, which needs better regulation anyways. It would force us to rely totally on cb populations.
 

Mushroom Spore

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Internet petitions don't actually accomplish anything. All they do is let people feel like they've "done their part" without actually having to put forth the effort of writing real letters or making phone calls...which, again, is DANGEROUS to any movement, because internet petitions are pretty much worthless and so people haven't really done anything at all, in the end.
 

DavidD

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Mushroom spore is your life just you being rude. Anyway I dont think it will pass
 

Aubrey Sidwell

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Mushroom spore is your life just you being rude. Anyway I dont think it will pass
Everyone is equally entitled their opinion and I agree that internet petitions have little to no value. How do you know it's not a ploy to get personal information to be used for other reasons such as marketing? These so called petitions wouldn't be valid without proving that all submissions are real and not just a few people submitting different names over and over. They need to see you, your ID, and get a signature if it were to have any substantiated worth.
 

Will Hunting

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Internet petitions don't actually accomplish anything. All they do is let people feel like they've "done their part" without actually having to put forth the effort of writing real letters or making phone calls...which, again, is DANGEROUS to any movement, because internet petitions are pretty much worthless and so people haven't really done anything at all, in the end.
Totally agreed with this post.

And DavidD, it really is a shame that people mistake "rude" with "truth"

Edit: OH WOW WIDOW WAY TO STEAL MY POST. Except you read my mind first. But it's still considered theft!
 

Nightmares

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Join!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WARNING- HR6311 Reintroduced as HR669- BAN ON BOAS & PYTHONS!!



Below you will read a press release by the most powerful Animal Rights Group on the planet. As predicted by USARK, HR6311 has been reintroduced as HR 669. If passed as written this bill will BAN the import, purchase, sale, trade and breeding of many, many reptiles and amphibians... including Boa, Python and Eunectes. If this bill passes it will destroy the reptile community and industry overnight! PLEASE JOIN USARK IN FIGHTING HR669!!!

SIGN THE PETITION AGAINST HR669

***SEND THIS ALERT TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST!!!

Stand by for USARK's Campaign to defeat HR 669.



http://www.hsus.org/press_and_publi...tic_animal_importation_introduced_012709.html





Congresswoman Bordallo Introduces Bill to Protect People and Native Wildlife by Addressing Exotic Animal Importation


January 27, 2009

The Humane Society of the United States and Humane Society International welcomed the introduction yesterday of the Nonnative Wildlife Invasion Prevention Act (H.R. 669) in the U.S. House of Representatives by Congresswoman Madeleine Z. Bordallo (D-Guam).

The bill is designed to prevent the introduction and establishment in the United States of nonnative wildlife species that may harm the economy, the environment, human health or native wildlife. H.R. 669 would require the federal government to assess the risk of nonnative wildlife species proposed for importation and, with public input, decide if the importation of these animals should be allowed or prohibited.

"Each year, millions of wild animals are captured overseas and imported into the United States," said Michael Markarian, executive vice president of The HSUS. "This trade results in the suffering and death of large numbers of animals, poses unnecessary risks to public health and jeopardizes native wildlife populations here and abroad. We are grateful to Congresswoman Bordallo for working to address this global problem."

Imported wild animals may escape or may be let loose by owners who cannot properly care for them. These animals sometimes die from starvation, predation or exposure. Sometimes, however, they thrive — putting people, domestic pets and native wildlife at risk.

Facts

Under current regulations, the Fish and Wildlife Service can declare species "injurious," making it illegal to import these animals or sell them over state lines as pets. However, this process typically takes years to complete and occurs after species are established, when eradicating them can be expensive, inhumane and nearly impossible.
Congresswoman Bordallo represents the island of Guam, where brown tree snakes accidentally introduced after World War II have decimated native bird and lizard populations.
According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, in 2005 the United States imported the following numbers of live, wild animals: nearly 88,000 mammals; 259,000 birds; more than 1 million reptiles; more than 5 million amphibians and more than 200 million fish.
The Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora aims to ensure sustainability and humane treatment in the international wildlife trade, but many species are not covered and even covered species may be harmed by trade.






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JohnEDove

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Internet petitions don't actually accomplish anything. All they do is let people feel like they've "done their part" without actually having to put forth the effort of writing real letters or making phone calls...which, again, is DANGEROUS to any movement, because internet petitions are pretty much worthless and so people haven't really done anything at all, in the end.
Then do nothing and complain when your rights are taken away.
No skin off my nose, I keep mostly NA native species anyway. As for me I've written my senator and congressman already.
 

DavidD

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This will affect me if it passes as i am getting a yellow conda soon
 

pitbulllady

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This does NOT just affect the importation of "exotic" animals, such as all Boas and Pythons, from other countries, but also prohibits taking them across state lines, which is intended to destroy the reptile industry. Most of the staple species available are non-native, such as the Colombian Boa and Ball Python. If breeders cannot sell, or buy, from out-of-state, this would basically end all breeding of such animals, as there will not be sufficient market in-state to warrant continuing to breed them, not to mention making it virtually impossible to legally obtain new bloodlines. Think of what would happen to the purebred dog community if the interstate transport of purebred dogs were to be prohibited; we're looking at the same thing with reptiles and other non-native animals, including quite possibly most tarantula species.

pitbulllady
 

Tcollector

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The only way these reptiles will affect anyone is the ones that is WC. I can see them banding those but the ones that is CB is just plain stupid. Their is allot of other better things that they should be focused on besides this one little idiotic thing they have been trying to pass, they just dont know when to quit:mad:
 

ThomasH

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Thanks for posting. I just got notification earlier. We need to watch this bill!
Oh, and Mushroomspore is right about online petitions, worthless.
Poisoness, we still need WCs for species not in the hobby, those that need more bloodlines, and those that don't breed well in captivity.
TBH
 

ThomasH

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E-mail your reps people. If passed it WILL destroy and basically abolish the hobby for sure! Who'd have thought the congress would try to destroy a multibillion dollar, harmless industry? Ah well, idiots rule the world.
TBH
 

barabootom

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Usually a bill of this nature is a stepping stone to greater bans. If they can get this bill passed, they'll create another that is even more strict or greater in scope. If you want to protect your right to your hobby, then take this seriously.
 

ThomasH

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Usually a bill of this nature is a stepping stone to greater bans. If they can get this bill passed, they'll create another that is even more strict or greater in scope. If you want to protect your right to your hobby, then take this seriously.
I agree. The hobbyists need to consider the impact of this big time!
TBH
 

ThomasH

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Keep checking the progress of the bill for the next year or so and make sure it does not spin into another bill. Monitoring political crap is how to avoid being stomped on by it.

TBH
 
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