WANTED: Aggressive T

[Xian]

Might I suggest you just use the search function. You'll find all the info you need and won't be exposed to ridicule for not doing your research first.

 

[Mack&Cass]

When you word your post saying you want a badass 'mofo' T, it really comes across that you're trying to be macho, hence why you're getting "flamed".

I can see why so many people are getting angry at your post, our hobby is under enough scrutiny as it is, and none of us want to see a person who only has an A. avic sling get something like an H. mac, get bit, and who knows what may happen after that.

I agree with Ariel, maybe you should get something in between first with a bit of speed and a bit stronger venom to get used to before you jump in with both feet. I think maybe something like an Acanthoscurria or Phormictopus, or Pampho...even a Lasiodora parahybana.

Good luck.

Cass

 

[shanebp]

I don't hope you get bit, but still, I DO suggest you start somewhere else. I can understand your want for a more defensive spider, I tend to lean towards those species as well, but I didn't get my first defensive species until after I'd already owned 5 other species. Like someone else said, you'll probably end up with more than just one other T, take your time!

Edit:
I see you're planning the look into the OBT (P. murinus). This is the species I was talking about, my 6th T. I agree, they're bullet proof, and they're very very defensive, but they have a NASTY bite, read the bite reports to make sure you know EXACTLY what you're getting into with this species. Also they're not really a ground species, more semi-arboreal. They're also really fast.

I'll be sure to check into the bite reports and see what the deal is before I actually order anything. Was leaning towards the OBT until you mentioned the semi arboreal part.. do you have any other suggestions other than the OBT? I'm looking for a pure ground species (because I already have an arboreal, trying to mix it up a bit).

Also, thanks for everyones concern, but this is my mindset and i'm going to get an aggressive/defensive T despite everyones warning. So a little more information instead of persuasion to not do what i'm doing would be great. Thanks!

 

[forrestpengra]

Condescension aside, I think a Lasiodora parahybana might be good suggestion. They get massive quickly (9-10") and tend to have a bit of attitude.

Avics are known to be one of the most docile T's in the market. consider something in between because there is a huge difference between a beginner T and an advanced species. These comments are for your own good.

T venom is only one component of a bite. You also have to consider the mechanical damage, potential damage to your T, the chance that your reaction might kill your T, the chance that your T might get out and hurt someone else.... I could go on and on... For anyone sensitive to 'stings' (bees, etc...) this could cause significant reaction and potential death. You must consider these things before purchasing... MUST

 

[Jilly1337]

OBT's are more terrestrial than arboreal, IMO. They construct web tunnels similar to an arboreal but they build them on and in the substrate. Again, L. parahybana and C.cyaneopubescens would be good too. Youtube has a lot of interesting videos of all of these species. Search for them and you can see them in action. While you're at it, check out I hirsutum. It's arboreal but one of the fastest spiders out there, IMO.

 

[Xian]

I can see why so many people are getting angry at your post, our hobby is under enough scrutiny as it is,

Cass

What scrutiny is this hobby under?

 

[satanslilhelper]

I'll recommend that you look into Pamphobeteus species. They're rather large and extremely aggressive "eaters". They will also defend their territory very well. I think you'll be fine with whatever you get. My 3rd T was a Poeciletheria regalis. My 53rd and 54th respectively are Pamphobeteus platyommas and they can make me flinch more than any of my other T's. Check my profile I have all of mine listed. Good luck with whatever you choose.

Welcome to the addiction!!

 

[curiousme]

Alright, i have to throw my post in with the lot.............

Ts are defensive, not aggressive. Some are very defensive of their territory and honestly who can blame them. Giant hands/ tongs messing around their home, you'd get defensive of your home too if it happened to you. Calling Ts aggressive does nothing but hurt this hobby. If you tell someone that you have an aggressive pet, they will think that it will purposely try to find them and hurt them. You tell them it is defensive and they know not to mess with it. It's all in the wording and yours was.............. well poor.

That said, P. murinus is defensive, beautifully colored and hardy. So far, our 3" acts more like a terrestrial than arboreal at the moment. So yes, it is semi-arboreal, but temperament and habits are different from T to T.

We also have a N. chromatus that is a bit snarky and is striking to look at as well. It is a terrestrial as well.

 

[mike88]

What about a Ceratogyrus. Sp.??? they look awsome with the horns there known to web alot and there also pretty defensive?

 

[shanebp]

I'll recommend that you look into Pamphobeteus species. They're rather large and extremely aggressive "eaters". They will also defend their territory very well. I think you'll be fine with whatever you get. My 3rd T was a Poeciletheria regalis. My 53rd and 54th respectively are Pamphobeteus platyommas and they can make me flinch more than any of my other T's. Check my profile I have all of mine listed. Good luck with whatever you choose.

Welcome to the addiction!!

Thanks for the input guys, maybe i'll have a look into the Pamph species, nobody else has mentioned it yet. And I agree, i'm sure i'll be fine with whatever I choose, thanks again!!

 

[paul fleming]

there really are "aggressive" T's.....I have one so I know
http://www.thespidershop.co.uk/insect/product_info.php?products_id=2007

 

[curiousme]

therev really are "aggressive" T's.....I have one so I know
http://www.thespidershop.co.uk/insect/product_info.php?products_id=2007

You are simply misinterpreting defensive behavior IMO. How on earth do you know whether you did something to put it on the defensive or not? Air currents can do it, all by themselves.

 

[Mack&Cass]

What scrutiny is this hobby under?

There are a lot of groups trying to ban exotic animals all together. All exotic pets are under scrutiny, and last time I checked, arachnids are exotic pets. Arachnids don't exactly have the best PR, a lot of people are either disgusted or frightened by them. If it wasn't a problem, why are T's already banned in a lot of places? Why is it illegal to ship them?

Bill S373 is a good example of the influence private groups can place on politicians regarding exotic pets. If they're going to start doing it with non-venemous snakes, what's stopping them from targeting arachnids? Where are they going to draw the line?

Cass

 

[andy375hh]

If you want a defensive/agressive T get an OBT Just make sure you use common sense when feeding, or routine cage cleaning. And dont ever try to hold them.

 

[paul fleming]

You are simply misinterpreting defensive behavior IMO. How on earth do you know whether you did something to put it on the defensive or not? Air currents can do it, all by themselves.

Unless you own one,how can you possibly say that ?
The one I have will try to get at you from behind the glass if you get too close where "air currents" cannot come into it.
Get one and see for yourself.
I also keep all the usual stuff.....H.mac,pokies,murinus,other baboons,M.gigas,hahni and more and the dichromata is in a different league as far as being aggressive is concerned.

 

[curiousme]

The S. calceatum is arboreal.

 

[paul fleming]

http://www.thebts.co.uk/selenocosmia.htm

If you don't want to read it all......I'll just quote this from it.

Selenocosmia is virtually unknown in captivity. Their extreme aggression and dull integument makes them unpopular with the pet trade and as a consequence they have become something of a collectors animal

Selenocosmia are considered to be one of the fastest and most aggressive of all tarantulas. Very little is known regarding the potency of their venom although it is considered by many to be one of the most toxic.

 

[TarantulaFanBoy]

I suggest a Pterinochilus murinus. There Very Affordable. There very hardy There Very fast. There Very Aggressive. And there Very potent ( In terms of venom ) When you get bit.... Which you will. Please do post a bite report Id just LOVE to read it

 

[paul fleming]

As said earlier......P.murinus are in no way aggressive but merely defensive as are most T's.

 

[TarantulaFanBoy]

As said earlier......P.murinus are in no way aggressive but merely defensive as are most T's.

My mistake Messiah