Voi Baboon Spider

najig21

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I just bought a spider that the store (East Bay Vivarium, for those in N Ca) that they called a Voi Baboon. It's rather docile, and eats well, but I can't find the scientific name, which would be a big help if anyone knows. Thanks.
 

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Although I've never heard it used, a google search says that Voi baboon is a common name for E. longiceps. That fits with your docile description. A pic would help with being certain.
 

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Hi. Hate to sound too corrective but I think it may be better to say "it could be" Eucratoscelus pachypus. Common name wise that would be correct but "pet store shelf" wise, there's no way to know without a pic. I have seen more grossly mislabeled and mis-id'd bugs in shops than I'll ever remember. That in mind, it's probable that you have a Eucratoscelus pachypus there but a pic would help immensely.
Or, check this link to see if any of the pics match your T.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=...8&q=Eucratoscelus+pachypus&btnG=Google+Search

Hope that helps some. :)

Atrax
 

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Originally posted by Atrax
Hi. Hate to sound too corrective but I think it may be better to say "it could be" Eucratoscelus pachypus. Common name wise that would be correct but "pet store shelf" wise, there's no way to know without a pic. I have seen more grossly mislabeled and mis-id'd bugs in shops than I'll ever remember. That in mind, it's probable that you have a Eucratoscelus pachypus there but a pic would help immensely.
Or, check this link to see if any of the pics match your T.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=...8&q=Eucratoscelus+pachypus&btnG=Google+Search

Hope that helps some. :)

Atrax
Hi Atrax and all,

Perhaps I should have been more clear. The chances of it being Eucratoscelus pachypus are much GREATER than it being Eucratoscelus longiceps. I assumed Najig was intelligent enough to verify the species id through photographs on the internet by placing the Latin names into a search engine and comparing them with what he has. My mistake. I tend to research the information I am provided. I forget that not everyone else does. My apologies Najig, for not making that clearer to you. And thankyou, Atrax, for pointing that out.

;)

Cheers,

Paul
 

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Hey, thanks for that, guys. On that google search, all of the pictures look different, but there are two that look pretty much exactly like the T that I have. Thanks again.
 

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Originally posted by najig21
Hey, thanks for that, guys. On that google search, all of the pictures look different, but there are two that look pretty much exactly like the T that I have. Thanks again.
Anytime, Najig. You're most welcome!

If you would like additional information on the species, I'd be happy to share!

Best wishes,

Paul
 

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Originally posted by najig21
I just bought a spider that the store (East Bay Vivarium, for those in N Ca) that they called a Voi Baboon. It's rather docile, and eats well, but I can't find the scientific name, which would be a big help if anyone knows. Thanks.
heck of a store, that EBV, eh? did they have a good selection of t's? generally when I have been there they have a few t's but their prices are very high.
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Originally posted by najig21
Hey, thanks for that, guys. On that google search, all of the pictures look different, but there are two that look pretty much exactly like the T that I have. Thanks again.
Glad to help! :) I'd love to see a pic if you can get one.
I really hope to score one or two of those at the ATS conference this week. They remind me of little hot rod T's with fat back tires. lol!

See ya.

Atrax
 

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Paul's right without an assumption- there isn't a spider called "E. longiceps". There are umteen dealers selling E. pachypus under that name, and declaring that the larger ones are longiceps, but it just t'ain't so.
There is a E. constrictus that's the same thing as P. spinifer, and both used to sometimes be called "E. longiceps." It looks like this :

E. constrictus

E. pachypus looks like this (though this is a pretty fat one):

E. pachypus


-Garrick
 

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Hi Garrick. On that fact, I fully agree. What I meant was that pet store shelf names can be so far off that to imply it "is" E. pachypus, without a pic could potentially misleading.
Example: (and this is true) Just yesterday me and my son were at a local exotic shop. I was browsing through the T's and there was a T labeled as "Camaroon Rusty Red Tarantula" The first thing I noticed was the anatomy of this T showed it was clearly mislabeled. When I picked up the container, it began to flick urticating setae in defense. (it already had a pretty bald abdomen) Not only was the label incorrect, but they weren't within the same continent as far as the origin written on the label.

I was hesitant to even post what I did originally but then I was reminded why I decided to make a point of it after what I saw at the petstore yesterday. I'm very sorry to come across as a "know all" because I'll openly admit I'm far from it. I give full credit to Paul's and your knowledge. The only point I intended to make was that a common name can be matched to the scientific name it was intended to describe. However, a pet store shelf label can be a whole world apart from what lies within that very container.

Peace. :)

Atrax
 
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Originally posted by Atrax
I was hesitant to even post what I did originally but then I was reminded why I decided to make a point of it after what I saw at the petstore yesterday. I'm very sorry to come across as a "know all" because I'll openly admit I'm far from it. I give full credit to Paul's and your knowledge. The only point I intended to make was that a common name can be matched to the scientific name it was intended to describe. However, a pet store shelf label can be a whole world apart from what lies within that very container.

Peace. :)

Atrax
I'm glad you posted what you did, Atrax. It's a very good point which I overlooked (too little sleep, lol!). That's one of the things that irritates me about pet stores. Not to mention when you point out something to them that they could improve upon, they tend to ignore you as if you don't know what you're talking about. It wouldn't bother me, but when you tell them it's an animal you specialize in (which I don't consider myself a specialist, just a hobbyist, but compared to them, perhaps, lol) and are trying to be helpful and they STILL ignore you (after telling you they'll correct the problem), it gets my goat, especially when the animal's life depends on the care they provide it. You didn't come across as a "know all," Atrax. What little knowledge I have comes from a friend of mine passing on info to me, and what I have read of Richard Gallon's revision on Eucratoscelus. Garrick, it's nice to see that you're following the info on such a beautiful and rarely captive bred species. After a molt, this species is absolutely beautiful!! I may just have to post a pic of my late fem, may she rest in peace. She died of an unexplained injury to her pedicel.
:(

Best wishes,

Paul
 
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Hi.. just thought I'd throw in a couple pics of one of my Eucratoscelus pachypus..



*EDIT*
Another common name I've heard used for them is Tanzanian Dwarf Stoutleg.
 
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HOLY S***!

What a fat a** lol



Originally posted by Garrick
Paul's right without an assumption- there isn't a spider called "E. longiceps". There are umteen dealers selling E. pachypus under that name, and declaring that the larger ones are longiceps, but it just t'ain't so.
There is a E. constrictus that's the same thing as P. spinifer, and both used to sometimes be called "E. longiceps." It looks like this :

E. constrictus

E. pachypus looks like this (though this is a pretty fat one):

E. pachypus


-Garrick
 

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Originally posted by bodc21
how defensive are they???
As with most tarantulas, it varies from individual to individual. I have had some that I could handle and others I could not. Being an African species, they are generally considered highly defensive.

Best wishes,

Paul
 

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Atavuss,
EBV didn't have that great of a selection when I went there the last time, but they usually have a fairly nice selection. When I went there to buy my Pterinochilus murinus, they had a cobalt blue (which I've NEVER seen them have in stock) and three T. blondi's as well as a wide selection of different Avicularia's. They are a bit pricy, though. I do agree. I'm thinking about working there, actually.

Originally posted by Atrax
Glad to help! :) I'd love to see a pic if you can get one.
Atrax
I'll see what I can do. I use a 35 mm SLR, because I can personally get better pictures out of them (as opposed to digital). But if I can get a hold of a scanner, I'll post 'em.
 

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I only own one.. and only personally know one other who owned one. Mine is extremely docile, and I can't swear to it, but I seem to remember the owner of the other saying his was very docile/calm also. Honestly, I don't know if thats normal or not though. Mine has never held a threat posture or even so much as acted skittish. I would say its the most calm of my collection. Which seems highly odd considering its origin. I've only had mine for coming up on 2 months now.. so maybe its just taking a while to feel comfortable enough in its new home to display a subdued pissy attitude :D
 

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There's a pet shop I go to in Wakefield, Northern UK that generally has about 20 Ts for sale. Half of them this week look like Delongian's photos and are labled "featherleg baboon". Seems that there's a glut of them round here.:)
 
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