Very Distressed (warning: graphic photo)

[-Sarah-]

Oh, Alexis I'm so sorry to hear about your poor tarantula!! She looks like she was a real beauty! To me it sure looks like she tried to molt during shipping. Hopefully you can get another one sent to you soon

-Sarah

 

[GailC]

I know how you feel, I had the same thing happen with a female B. emilia this fall except mine didn't molt, just ruptured. What a horrible thing to find

 

[Talkenlate04]

Wow sorry about the loss that really really sucks.

On another note. That giant heat pack so close to the T and its container, to me seems like a really bad idea. It could have cooked the T, and they messy part of it was just the dead T bouncing around the rest of the trip.

Sucks such a beautiful T had to die. :8o

 

[KenTheBugGuy]

Pictures

Wow sorry about the loss that really really sucks.

On another note. That giant heat pack so close to the T and its container, to me seems like a really bad idea. It could have cooked the T, and they messy part of it was just the dead T bouncing around the rest of the trip.

Sucks such a beautiful T had to die. :8o

Been shipping many(over 50 now) T's this way and have not had problems. I actually put the heat pad on the left side of the ice chest where the hole is and the tarantulas on the right with paper padding on and around the container just to make sure it does not cook the T. Not to be defensive you just can not see how I packed it from the pics cause the whole set up is different. I really think it just decided to shed after reviewing the pictures some more. Unfortunate really as she was a beauty.

 

[Truff135]

Wow sorry about the loss that really really sucks.

On another note. That giant heat pack so close to the T and its container, to me seems like a really bad idea. It could have cooked the T, and they messy part of it was just the dead T bouncing around the rest of the trip.

Sucks such a beautiful T had to die. :8o

Yeah Ryan I'm sorry you had to see that, I know how much you love brachy's...
Sorry to hear about your's too, Mina. At least I'm not alone, not that I want any T's or keepers to have to go through this, but at least I'm not the only one with sucky luck.

 

[patrick86]

So sorry this happened.

Are you sure it was trying to molt? Looking at the photo it's hard to tell but I don't see anything that would indicate a molt.

It appears that the abdomen burst for what ever reason. The box can go through a lot of punishment and not show any exterior damage. My guess is that the box was dropped or worse.

I don't know if a heat pack could cook a T, especially if there's a couple of barriers between it. Different layers of air are great insulators.

My condolences to the buyer and the seller.

 

[Truff135]

Been shipping many(over 50 now) T's this way and have not had problems. I actually put the heat pad on the left side of the ice chest where the hole is and the tarantulas on the right with paper padding on and around the container just to make sure it does not cook the T. Not to be defensive you just can not see how I packed it from the pics cause the whole set up is different. I really think it just decided to shed after reviewing the pictures some more. Unfortunate really as she was a beauty.

Yeah I'm sorry Ken, I tried to post the pics as accurately as possible but I've been kind of a mess. I really do believe it was a molt, and only a molt, that caused this. I don't doubt your packing abilities and still appreciate all your help in this matter.

 

[Truff135]

So sorry this happened.

Are you sure it was trying to molt? Looking at the photo it's hard to tell but I don't see anything that would indicate a molt.

It appears that the abdomen burst for what ever reason. The box can go through a lot of punishment and not show any exterior damage. My guess is that the box was dropped or worse.

My condolences to the buyer and the seller.

Almost positive. When I first opened the box, before opening the cup, there was part of an exuvium in the paper towel, that was not from the accident down underneath. It wasn't...messy...like that. Plus, she was on her side/back indicating to me that she had tried to flip and molt and probably just got stuck, then along with the shipping process got damaged from being soft. I don't blame Ken for that either, because I have had a tarantula molt unexpectedly on me. She had shown no signs of molting so I do believe that he didn't know about it.
I just want to make sure everyone knows that I do not place any fault at all on Ken. That wasn't why I posted this, I just wanted to share this experience because so many people knew I had ordered her and was expecting her, and I was supposed to post some pics. Please do not turn this into an accusation. Ken and I are discussing the matter privately.
I do appreciate everyone's concern though, it does mean a lot to me, so thank you all.

 

[CustomNature]

Just to throw my two cents in, I would also like to state that I've gotten T's from Ken and the packing was great. As he mentioned, the pictures aren't of exactly how the items were packed. She mentioned that she saw the molted carapace in the 'mess' so, to me, it seems like a closed case. By the looks of it, the spider had to have been in the ultra soft post-molt stage to arrive in that state of 'gooeyness'.

 

[Truff135]

Just to throw my two cents in, I would also like to state that I've gotten T's from Ken and the packing was great. As he mentioned, the pictures aren't of exactly how the items were packed. She mentioned that she saw the molted carapace in the 'mess' so, to me, it seems like a closed case. By the looks of it, the spider had to have been in the ultra soft post-molt stage to arrive in that state of 'gooeyness'.

Yeah, I'm 99% certain that's what it was. Again I apologize for not accurately showing the packaging, I wasn't really thinking straight at the moment. :8o

 

[cacoseraph]

I don't know if a heat pack could cook a T, especially if there's a couple of barriers between it. Different layers of air are great insulators.

not that i feel one way or other about what killed it (i can't see pics at work) but... i was wondering what kind because some have spike temps of 160*F+

that could easily cook a tarantula.

 

[KenTheBugGuy]

Heat packs

not that i feel one way or other about what killed it (i can't see pics at work) but... i was wondering what kind because some have spike temps of 160*F+

that could easily cook a tarantula.

It was one of the kinds you buy for shipping reptiles...

http://www.reptiledepot.com/pics/heatpak.jpg that is the brand actually


Alexis do not be sorry you have done nothing wrong ...just a discussion

 

[cacoseraph]

It was one of the kinds you buy for shipping reptiles...

http://www.reptiledepot.com/pics/heatpak.jpg that is the brand actually


Alexis do not be sorry you have done nothing wrong ...just a discussion

should be good then. it is the ones that are not build to ship animals that can have the higher spike temps. i imagine they are built to less exacting standards

 

[smof]

Oh man, so sorry to hear that. I can imagine how horrible it would be to open up the package and find that The poor T. I feel for you, I have had a DoA before and it wasn't as shocking as that but it was a T I was really looking forward to as well and it is really, really sad.

 

[sick4x4]

andrew the temps peak out at 115*f and settles to 100* ..as long as you leave some space for air flow.... you should be fine with heat though i have heard of rare occasions when it does get hot....here what i use and think its what the shipper used..."note i use 40 hours" i would no recommend the 60-72 hour ones...

 

[KenTheBugGuy]

packs

andrew the temps peak out at 115*f and settles to 100* ..as long as you leave some space for air flow.... you should be fine with heat though i have heard of rare occasions when it does get hot....here what i use and think its what the shipper used..."note i use 40 hours" i would no recommend the 60-72 hour ones...

Yah I used that same brand.

 

[dtknow]

If you count the legs and look at the brightness on the left and on the right you can see what looks like the shed on the right.

 

[PhormictopusMan]

I am very sorry Alexis. My nine year old A. purpurea died tonight, just as I was sure she was doing better, and I was just dealing with that and then I saw this and really felt for you. It can be pretty heartbreaking.

--Chris

 

[Strix]

Hey Alexis,

I'm sorry to see and hear about your loss. It really stinks especially since I know you were really excited about getting her. I feel your pain though because my G. aureostriata I believe came DOA as well, although in not as bad condition. I made an ICU box for her just in case and Ken has been really really helpful in the situation and we are talking in private about it as well.

Unfortunately it happens and they were both really beautiful spiders and looked really well taken care of and I really think Ken did a great job on the packaging.

My A. hentzi arrived in great condition though and I am really pleased with Ken's service and quick responses.

 

[tacoma0680]

I have done deals with him he is a great guy somthing must have happened during the shipping of the spider im sorry for you lose man..