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Longbord, Baboons are some of the most aggressive primates there are.

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i know they are but gorillas and chimps can do just as much or worse damgae and id rather sleep in the same bed as a baboon than a hyena ill tell u that.


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Gorillas scare the s#!t out of me, they're huge and that look they give ..... brrrr
 

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Crotalus said:
If you breeds them selectivly for 100 years they might be domesticated but I wouldnt bet on it. The ones on the picture cant be described as domesticated , they are more used to people (as most predators in captivity will be in time - but that doesnt mean they are tame).
Same with spiders or snakes, they get used to people but calling them domesticated is not true.

/Lelle
Okay, what was the point of your qouting me....? I didnt say they could be domesticated in that post, but guess what....duh duhna naaaa...they have been owned by several US presidents, many foriegn dingnitaries, and lots of poeople who live in the countries to which they are native, i dont think you have any clue to the bloodlines of the animals in the pic so they may have been bred by certain tibes or locals for who knows how long. It is very possible that certain africans have bred these animals for many many many generations to trade or sell and for protection. Also africa is site to some of the oldest human remains ever found....so they've had a while to do so. I said "semi"-tame which they obvioulsy are as a wild undomesticated hyenna would not tolerate the pressence of a human let alone have one put a muzzle and a chain on it. They would not be able to control a wild hyenna they are massive, there bodies are set up around thier jaws, the center of gravity in one is setup to give them maximum effeciency in tearing meat and dragging prey. Hyennas can be domesticated as almost all mammals, have those in the picture been though? who knows....are those one's?....again who knows, you cant tell through a pic.
 
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I've gotta agree with Wade here....monkeys give me the creeps as well. I also feel very sad for all those animals in the picture. Can you tame them? I'm sure you can. Can you domesticate them? Well....perhaps over a couple of hundred years you can.....but not overnight.

Some years ago (11 to be exact) I lived in Oklahoma and aided in Wildlife Rehabilitation. Some of the animals reported were so severly injured that you couldn't possibly return them back into the wild. I ALWAYS felt particularly sorry for them as there was no "real/true" relationship going on between animal and keeper/rehabiliator. All you could do was keep the animal alive by providing it with medical care, food and shelter. One time someone reported to have found 3 mountain lion cubs. Low and behold, my supervisor raised those cubs with a bottle. By the time they were old enough to feed by themselves, a close eye needed to be kept on them, as the day was getting nearer that they would attack each other. Sure enough, once during feeding one female cub viciously attacked her much bigger brother, and when my supervisor had to intervene, he also was mauled in the arm.

I'm sure you can't compare this to wild animals raised by a single person, as those cubs were raised to ultimately be released, however, to have seen the natural instinct in WILD animals, raised at home with TLC, will make you wonder just HOW MUCH you can trust them.

Having witnessed all that, and knowing all that.....a tiger cub STILL sounds tempting.....but then again...WHO can afford all THAT MEAT???? :?
 

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in africa people used to have and may still have pet cheetas.also wolves are probbaly just as nice or mean as hyenas. Bears were also kept as pets too. Im sure the intelligence of the animal has alot to do with domestication of it.

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My dog in so cal is half wolf, it is extremley evident when you look at her, she wheighed in at 147 last time we checked and was rasied around three small kids (one being me) and never showed any outward aggresion and is actually by far the most obediant and loving dog i have. I've seen so many things on discovery channel and others where people are mauled by thier pets, even completley domesticated long term owned ones....theres always the factor of unpredictable behavoir. Very scary especially when my dog is that big, but i forget that quickly with her adorable antics and unquestioning obedience, but i do often think about her being 1/2 wolf. You just never know....
 

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my parents had a wolf/samoyed hybrid before my mom died. She was extremely skittish and shy. She exhibited more wolfy behaviour than Sammy behaviour. I personally wouldn't own a wolf, or wolf hybrid, but that is just me. I also used to date someone that had a timber wolf (purebred). She was the most frightening animal I've ever come in contact with. Not truly even 'tame', she just barely tolerated living in the same house as humans.
 

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Those people have got to be nuts to have those animals. They are wild. Anyone who thinks they can be domesticated like a pet dog or cattle are way off in fantasy land. It take many generations of breeding. Also, the process of selective breeding for domestication has a dramatic effect on the appearance of the species. If they were domesticated, they certainly would not look exactly like their wild counterparts.
Bone crushing jaws would be enough to keep me at a safe distance or in a vehicle.
 

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I agree with that, i would never own an emotional animal suchas a dog or wolf they did not exhibit outward affection. My dog is seriously huge, im 6' and she stands at my waistline just about. She too is part timberwolf but is loyal and loving to an extreme. She is 10 now and is slowing down but her personallity has remained. I could not imagine having such a large dog that did not show affection in fear of it turning on me or someone else. You have to be very atuned with an animals signals to keep a wolf as you mentioned immortal and even then it would not take much for a tragec mishap to occur. All dogs where once wild, but some are more fit than others to cohabitate with humans.....wolfs are iffy at best and it takes an extreme exception to the rule to make a good loyal pet.
 

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Sounds like you got lucky with your wolf mix. I wouldn't own one just because of the unpredicability of the animal. If I did have one, I don't think I could fully trust it in certain situations. That's not to say that all wolf hybrids are untrustworthy but it's better safe than sorry. I'll stick to the not so unusual pets, especially the ones that don't look at me like I'm a snack.
 

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I am not so sure those are pets at all in the picture. The hyena-holders also seem to have hefty wooden sticks, perhaps to keep the hyenas at chains-length, and the "other" arms of the baboon keepers are obscured in the photo. One of the sticks is showing a lot, but you can't exactly tell who is holding it. The fellow in the foreground has the same white/tan color next to his arm which is down - also a thumper? I am going to guess that noone is crazy, but that every single handler in that photo actually has a back-up whacker (or something) in their other hand. (Just in case!)

Security beasts? This must be one rough part of town these folks are in!
 

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Nich said:
Okay, what was the point of your qouting me....? I didnt say they could be domesticated in that post, but guess what....duh duhna naaaa...they have been owned by several US presidents, many foriegn dingnitaries, and lots of poeople who live in the countries to which they are native, i dont think you have any clue to the bloodlines of the animals in the pic so they may have been bred by certain tibes or locals for who knows how long. It is very possible that certain africans have bred these animals for many many many generations to trade or sell and for protection. Also africa is site to some of the oldest human remains ever found....so they've had a while to do so. I said "semi"-tame which they obvioulsy are as a wild undomesticated hyenna would not tolerate the pressence of a human let alone have one put a muzzle and a chain on it. They would not be able to control a wild hyenna they are massive, there bodies are set up around thier jaws, the center of gravity in one is setup to give them maximum effeciency in tearing meat and dragging prey. Hyennas can be domesticated as almost all mammals, have those in the picture been though? who knows....are those one's?....again who knows, you cant tell through a pic.
The point in quoting: the reader then know whos post im refering too.

Im talking of hyenas but im not so sure you do that -
So, you saying several american president have owned domesticated hyenas as pets? LOL Or do you mean wolf hybrids?..
What does old bones of humanids have to do with this..?
And Africa isnt the only country in the world where people have wild animals as "pets". Plenty of wild big cats are held in US etc etc. Just because you put a leach on a animal dont make it tame or domesticated - or that it can even be that for 100 of years. Some animals shouldnt be kept as plain pets.
And im not refering to your wolfhybrids. They are too little wolf in them to make a difference. I met those dogs and the only difference between them and a ordinary husky or similar is they are more skittish.

/Lelle
 

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I wouldn't mind a couple of hyenas in the yard though. Great for home security!
Now I like that idea. I dare the neighborhood kids to tease my dogs then :eek: Heck thats dangerous now my dog is Husky/ Chow. Very
protective of her pack thats for sure :D
 

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When I was a lot younger I had a wolf hybrid. Half german shep and part wolf.. I don't know what kind of wolf. It was female and skittish, moody, basically the kind of animal I want : one that will let me alone and not get it's feelings hurt :) Anyway, I bred her when she was about 2 yrs old and couldn't even tell she was pregnant. It carried really wierd. High up. When she had the pups, they were crawling out og the doghouse the day after they were born. It was seriously strange... those of you that have regular dogs know dogs just dont do this. They can't be domesticated. They can adjust, but will never be lap dogs or what people call companion animals. I think most.. not all.. people get these wolves and hybrids to just have something different and have NO idea what they are in for! I was a teenager and thought it was cool. I have a Jack Russell now and he is enough dog for me :)

I think hyenas look cool., but I'd never have one! LOL! Monkeys are too human looking and are scary. My uncle had a raccoon years ago and if I were to ever get a "wierd" and unusal animal, it would be one of those. It would steal keys and jewelery from anyone that sat on the couch and hide it! Such a sharp animal.
 
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