Two new tarantula Species described!

[MizM]

It's for Martin. He's questioning whether I REALLY have an Ornithoctonus andersoni, and now I'm really wondering too!

 

[phormingochilus]

Hi Mizm ;-) I kinda lika asian flavoured pop corns so I will venture a guess ;-)

To me it looks like the spider we here in Europe know as Chilobrachys sp. "burmensis". There is a few give-aways. The first ones is to determine if the spider belongs to the subfamily Ornithoctoninae. Ornithoctoninae always posses cheliceral "sideburns" - more or less pronounced (very much so in Haplopelma schmidti, but they are actually visible in all ornithoctonine species). Your spider do not posses this feature and thus cannot be a Ornithoctoninae, and thus can impossibly be O. andersoni ;-) Your spider posses very long spinnerets, longer and stouter front legs than rear legs, relatively large chelicerae, procurved fovea, and most important for my guestimate undivided scopula on metatarsus of leg IV. These are not the most stable characters, but gives an impression of the overall habitus of your spider which fits nicely with the habitus of the Chilobrachys species sold here in Europe as "burmensis", though it may actually have nothing to do with Burma after all ... ;-) What surprises me is that you describe it as being calm, as all of the specimens of this particular Chilobrachys species that I have met has been really high strung and defensive, but you may have been lucky to get the sweet one ;-) Anyway it's a great spider actually that is a bit underrated here in Europe (with most of the other Chilobrachys species, except perhaps C. fimbriatus, actually).

Just my 5 øre ;-)

Regards
Søren

Here she is Martin, sold as Ornithoctonus andersoni :

Popcorn anyone?

 

[Boris Striffler]

Hi Søren,

I think you can tell under which cf. name this species is circulated as well and how you recognise them on first sight, as I can imagine that you bit your lips till they bleed.
Don't think Batman will damn you for that, as he used that name five times in one of his answers.

Just my 5 Pfennig
Boris

 

[Theraphosid Research Team]

Here she is Martin, sold as Ornithoctonus andersoni :
Popcorn anyone?

Hi Miz,

although I'm not Martin (=Robin ) I will explain the situation. Sören gave a good overview about the characters of your Species. Please compare the appearance of your Specimen with the Ornithoctonus andersoni picture within the description from Boris and me. As you can see, both species does really differ rapidly in their appearance! BTW, the actual right name for your Chilobrachys seems to be Chilobrachys dyscolus!Sören:;P

Cheers, Bat-Volker

 

[phormingochilus]

Better to hear it from the horses lips than to have the horse hanging from my lips ;-)

So to ask more specific if the large dark ones with RF ≈ 104 is Chilobrachys dyscolus Then what is the Chilobrachys species that shares the stridulating and genital structures with C. dyscolus, but which has a divided scopula on metatarsus IV and a RF ≈ 97 ?

;-) Regards
Søren

Hi Miz,BTW, the actual right name for your Chilobrachys seems to be Chilobrachys dyscolus!Sören:;P

Cheers, Bat-Volker

 

[Theraphosid Research Team]

Hi,

unfortunately the posting from that user named "Glock", between this one and that from Sören, is removed by the admin. It was from that interesting guy with the dutch IP which obviously doesn't like germans and especially Martin "Robin" Huber. It's a pity, because I sometimes had such insane persons here in german tarantula forums and every time I kicked their ass with my arguments. I really would like to do the same with that guy, promised! :} <edit>. Hey, common, don't be shy. Tell us your right name and then let's talk!
BTW, if anybody wants to read the removed posting from that funny Punchinello, he can contact me under von-wirth@dearge.de! I'll send it ia e-Mail then.

@Sören: I don't know which Chilobrachys you mean? The brownish one?

Bye, Volker

 

[phormingochilus]

What do you mean? To my eyes all Chilobrachys species are some sort of shade of brownish ;-)

I mean the tannish one that are often sold as "C. andersoni" or "C. huahini".

Regards
Søren

Hi,
@Sören: I don't know which Chilobrachys you mean? The brownish one?

Bye, Volker

 

[Theraphosid Research Team]

Hi,

because of our phonecall before two minutes ago, you know what I mean. I mean the one with the pink stripes on the legs and the reddish spots on the Abdomen! :razz: ;P

Bye,bye ... Batker or Volkman

 

[phormingochilus]

Ookay - now I see what you mean - the one that brews coffee in the morning and does the dishes afterwards without hissing? ;-) I know nothing is what they appear to be - it's more of a rule than an exception I guess ;-)

Søren

Hi,

because of our phonecall before two minutes ago, you know what I mean. I mean the one with the pink stripes on the legs and the reddish spots on the Abdomen! :razz: ;P

Bye,bye ... Batker or Volkman

 

[glock45]

Yawn!!! To The Bat Cave!

 

[phormingochilus]

If the subject means so little to you I am amused you spend so much time replying to it ;-) You must have oceans of spare time on your hands to comment on everything you dislike LOL ;-) What a sad life ;-) Get a real life! And face your demons: use a real name ;-)

Søren

Yawn!!! To The Bat Cave!

 

[MizM]

Yawn!!! To The Bat Cave!

Please keep your comments to the thread subject. I am having a very informative and educational conversation, and I don't appreciate the interruptions.

Thank you VOLKER!:worship: And Soren, and, um, that Huber guy? I really appreciate all of your observations. Yes Volker, she does resemble the description in your paper, so it appears I have a Chilobrachys sp. "burmensis". She was a rescue, and the previous owner told me she was sold as Ornithoctonus andersoni. (Not bad for a FREE spider!) Regarding her temper, or lack thereof, I seem to have a "way" with these critters and many of my "aggressive" species are actually quite calm, once removed from their territory. If you remember, I'm the one with the "cuddly" H. lividum!

 

[Sheri]

This was entertaining.

You know... I've heard there are a lot of girls (especially Dutch girls) with the Batman & Robin fetish going on... Be careful out there boys!


As for new species announcements... what do you think of a sitckied thread - *just* for annoucing the news (or change)?

Of course, a thread like this one should be started so that we don't lose out on comedy like this, but a thread dedicated to ongoing changes and news might be useful for quick reference.

 

[Nerri1029]

This was entertaining.

You know... I've heard there are a lot of girls (especially Dutch girls) with the Batman & Robin fetish going on... Be careful out there boys!


As for new species announcements... what do you think of a sitckied thread - *just* for annoucing the news (or change)?

Of course, a thread like this one should be started so that we don't lose out on comedy like this, but a thread dedicated to ongoing changes and news might be useful for quick reference.

I'll second that

 

[MizM]

As for new species announcements... what do you think of a sitckied thread - *just* for annoucing the news (or change)?

Oh, wouldn't it be wonderful if new species were described often enough to have a sticky!

 

[Sheri]

And reclassifications, etc.

Sorry, I thought that was clear.

 

[Martin H.]

Hi,

although I'm not Martin (=Robin ) I will explain the situation. Sören gave a good overview about the characters of your Species. Please compare the appearance of your Specimen with the Ornithoctonus andersoni picture within the description from Boris and me. As you can see, both species does really differ rapidly in their appearance!

Ornithoctonus andersoni:

yours,
Robin ^ÿ^

 

[Kumalo]

Ornithoctonus aureotibalis female

regards,
Philipp Samadi

 

[Juraviel]

Hi all, when I saw this pic I think the something is wrong with my tarantula names.
I bought some time ago a tarantula and breeder tells me that this is H. minax, but now I have manner that this tarantula is not a H. minax! But maybe O. andersoni. Look on the picture below, and tell me what do You think about this guys. Thanks

 

[Theraphosid Research Team]

Hi,

for me, it looks like a Haploplma minax!

Cheers, Volker