Trapdoor T’s??

[Ceid]

Hello everyone
I recently got interested in some trapdoor species. What are some that you would recommend to add to a collection?
Thanks all!

 

[KezyGLA]

P. lugardi
I. mira
T. seledonia

 

[Arachnophoric]

I. mira are a fantastic "trap door" species, although mine is broken and is nearly never in it's burrow....

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[Mentat Ix]

I got the I. mira for exactly this behavior. So far its been amazing. He had his trap door built the first day in his new enclosure.

Although, when its in premolt there's not even a nice pet hole to look at. I didn't even know it had molted until it threw the molt out, then it was right back to springing the trap on unsuspecting crickets.

 

[atraxrobustus]

Hello everyone
I recently got interested in some trapdoor species. What are some that you would recommend to add to a collection?
Thanks all!

The thing is that one would think that trapdoors would be classified as funnel-webs, as opposed to tarantulas.

 

[Arachnophoric]

The thing is that one would think that trapdoors would be classified as funnel-webs, as opposed to tarantulas.

Not particularly. Tarantulas and funnel webbed spiders are different. A tarantula with burrowing/trap door behavior is still a tarantula.

 

[atraxrobustus]

Not particularly. Tarantulas and funnel webbed spiders are different. A tarantula with burrowing/trap door behavior is still a tarantula.

I didn't know that and find it Interesting, as I was taught, apparently incorrectly, that the term "trap door" was synonymous with "funnel web". Eh, nice to learn something new.

 

[dangerforceidle]

Check out this link for a general overview of how the infraorder Mygalomorphae is laid out:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mygalomorphae#Evolution_and_phylogeny

The highly venomous Sydney Funnel Web is under family Hexathelidae, for example. Tarantulas fall into family Theraphosidae. Ctenizidae are trap doors, Antrodiaetidae are folding doors, Migidae are tree trap doors, Idiopidae are armoured trap doors. All of these familes are distinct, and belong to Mygalomorphae. They share some defining characteristics, but there is high variation among them.

True spiders, infraorder Araneomorphae, are where you find wolf spiders, black widows, common house spiders, etc.. There are funnel weaving families here as well, such as Agelenidae.

 

[atraxrobustus]

Check out this link for a general overview of how the infraorder Mygalomorphae is laid out:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mygalomorphae#Evolution_and_phylogeny

The highly venomous Sydney Funnel Web is under family Hexathelidae, for example. Tarantulas fall into family Theraphosidae. Ctenizidae are trap doors, Antrodiaetidae are folding doors, Migidae are tree trap doors, Idiopidae are armoured trap doors. All of these familes are distinct, and belong to Mygalomorphae. They share some defining characteristics, but there is high variation among them.

True spiders, infraorder Araneomorphae, are where you find wolf spiders, black widows, common house spiders, etc.. There are funnel weaving families here as well, such as Agelenidae.

Great, so I was correct that trapdoors aren't within the family Theraphosidae.

 

[dangerforceidle]

Yes, that's correct, but not every spider that makes a trap door is a "trap door spider." Common names can be confusing, scientific names are far more precise.

 

[atraxrobustus]

Yes, that's correct, but not every spider that makes a trap door is a "trap door spider." Common names can be confusing, scientific names are far more precise.

I'm beginning to see that to the extent that common names can be sometimes a bit over broad, for example the archaic use of Tarantula to mean certain species outside of Theraphosidae.

 

[viper69]

I mira are excellent trap door Ts for ownership. Here's my AF Blue Suede Shoes.

You'll see behaviors in this species that you will not see elsewhere.

Theres's also an arboreal trap door T as well> Typhochlaena seladonia

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I mira- They do come out at times

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[Arachnophoric]

Here's my AF Blue Suede Shoes.

Certainly won't be stepping on your Blue Suede Shoes

Adorable name, gave me a good laugh. Your girl is gorgeous, unfortunately I think mine's a little male...

 

[Ceid]

Just ordered an I. Mira off Jamiestarantula!

 

[Arachnophoric]

Just ordered an I. Mira off Jamiestarantula!

That's actually where I got mine! She was running her Black Friday sale last night, was selling a sexed female. Did you grab that, or opt for the unsexed specimens?

Maybe a little late to ask this, but what is your experience with tarantulas? I. mira are an old world species, so they pack more potent venom than a NW would in the event of a bite. I'm not too worried about it since IME these guys are more shy than defensive, and as long as yours isn't broken like mine is will likely hardly ever come out of it's burrow. They also stay relatively small. Very neat little baboon, and would recommend it as a first OW species in a heartbeat. Feel these guys are pretty underrated, honestly.

 

[Ceid]

That's actually where I got mine! She was running her Black Friday sale last night, was selling a sexed female. Did you grab that, or opt for the unsexed specimens?

Maybe a little late to ask this, but what is your experience with tarantulas? I. mira are an old world species, so they pack more potent venom than a NW would in the event of a bite. I'm not too worried about it since IME these guys are more shy than defensive, and as long as yours isn't broken like mine is will likely hardly ever come out of it's burrow. They also stay relatively small. Very neat little baboon, and would recommend it as a first OW species in a heartbeat. Feel these guys are pretty underrated, honestly.

I got the unsexed, it was in my budget. But I do have three other T’s. A Chaco golden knee, a. avic and c. versicolor. So this will be my first ow. I did read that I. Mira are a good choice for first ow and I don’t handled my T’s so I’m looking forward to it arriving. I also order the sling terrestrial enclosure for it

 

[dangerforceidle]

I also order the sling terrestrial enclosure for it

Just give it lots of substrate to burrow into, and maybe poke a few starter burrows into it. Mine webbed up the entrance to its burrow and started building trap door lids within a day or two. Very industrious.

 

[viper69]

I got the unsexed, it was in my budget. But I do have three other T’s. A Chaco golden knee, a. avic and c. versicolor. So this will be my first ow. I did read that I. Mira are a good choice for first ow and I don’t handled my T’s so I’m looking forward to it arriving. I also order the sling terrestrial enclosure for it

Expect about 2" of sub to increase over whatever height you set the sub when you first setup its home. It takes a while though for 2" of sub to appear.

 

[Kendricks]

I mira are excellent trap door Ts for ownership. Here's my AF Blue Suede Shoes.

You'll see behaviors in this species that you will not see elsewhere.

My wishlist keeps growing, I see.