trap door id please i just brought it lol

[creepycrawley]

hi i just purchased this trapdoor it was labbled as a orange leg trap door of the Gorgyrella species does this sound correct

 

[Arachnomaniak]

I've dealt with the "black" and "red" species before. I've never had the species you posted but it looks great! I believe I've seen pics of this species on a wholesale list before but only the common name was listed and it was something like "Black and Gold Trap Door Spider" and just listed as Gorgyrella sp.

 

[creepycrawley]

ok thanx for your info i can not seem to find any proper information out about this guy tho weird

 

[Bastian Drolshagen]

hi,
I´m going to get one of those from a german dealer for ID purposes. When I finished IDing it I hope I can say you at least to which genus it belongs...

 

[creepycrawley]

yeah that would be good if you could let me know a bit more about it the shop said its Gorgyrella species but not sure if thats right :?

 

[8+)]

If this is an adult female it definitely doesn't look like Gorgryella to me. They all seem to have short, stocky front legs.

Is it possible that this is an immature male? That would explain the long, thin legs...

I wish I knew more about these Ctenizidae, but it seems few can even ID to the genus.

At any rate, beautiful spider!

 

[Bastian Drolshagen]

hi,

If this is an adult female it definitely doesn't look like Gorgryella to me. They all seem to have short, stocky front legs.
I wish I knew more about these Ctenizidae, but it seems few can even ID to the genus.

It is not a Gorgyrella sp. that´s for sure! Gorgyrella sp. belong to the subfamily Idiopinae (Idiopidae), which share the ALE set far in advance of the other eyes, which makes the eyegroup more longer than wide (see Raven, R. (1985a): The spider infraorder Mygalomorphae (Araneae) cladistics and systematics. Bulletin AMNH (182): 138).
Additionally the genus Gorgyrella doesn´t belong to the Ctenizidae - CLICK ME HARD!

 

[8+)]

Thanks for that site!

So, it appears that many were reclassified in 1985, Gorgyella included.

 

[Bastian Drolshagen]

hi,
not really reclassified, but transfered to another family.
If you want the whole paper CLICK HERE.

 

[creepycrawley]

thanx for all thats guys but dont think it matters now because the spider i recived dont look any think like that lol:wall:

 

[8+)]

Bastian, so this would belong to the subfamily Idiopinae (Idiopidae)?

Thanks for the education!

 

[Bastian Drolshagen]

hi, yepp, looks pretty much like a Idiopinae

 

[creepycrawley]

that looks more like what i got not the first pic i put on

 

[Bastian Drolshagen]

the eye pattern?