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Barbedwirecat said:
Personally out of all Tourts, I love american Box turtles. Yes I know theres a difference but understand these guys are small....relativley easy to take care of, and if you are in a moderatley warmish climate (no negatives in winter) they can hibernate outside. And I agree with the last post...these guys live a LONG time almost no matter what kind you get, so you would need to be prepared for this. Frest fruits and veggies once or twice a day (freSH, NOT CANNED not FROZEN) it doesn't seem like much, but I have on many occasions had to nurse ones back to health that have been injured by cars/lawnmovers/stupid kids and it can be tedious to do this for the rest of your life.

As far as humidity.... each species is different. If you understand the "burrowing" concept then you'll know burrows created are often made with the humidity they need, they feel dry, they soak and go in the burrow. I can't stress ENOUGH how important letting them create a burrow is.

The best and cheapet caging for them (indoors) are kiddy sand boxes, small pools, and cattle troughs. If left outside, you would need a screen cover to keep the predators out. I have seen what a raccoon can do to a 300 lb Spur Thigh, its not very pretty.

Torts can get up there in size, remember that when you see a cute little spur thigh the size of a golfball for 90 bucks and think about when it grows into a 300lb. plus monster and you have no where to put it in your apartment/house durring the winter (these guys can't stay outside). I know that stops me everytime I'm at a herp show. Also remember some states it is illigal to buy and posess turtles, I know you are in canada, but check your wildlife regulations for where you live. The only reason I can posess them in my state is because I rehab them and set them free when they are healed.

The wisest investment here would be the time you spend doing your research on what you want and what fits into your lifestyle the best. Most of the desert dwelling torts need alot of extra heat (lamps) and EVERY TURTLE NEEDS A UV LAMP. Never ever buy a tort without this unless you will put the turtle outside where it can get natural UV exposure for at least 10+ hours a week. It will thrive for awhile without, but it will be stunted as far as growth and the classic pyramid shapes of the scutes on the shells will tell you wether its a healthy turtle (The "Pyramiding" is BAD) Also a good source of calcuim for bones and shell prodution IE: crushed oyster shell sprinkled on food, or powder you can buy at a store. You can buy "Turtle chow" as the petstores which is OK, but fresh fruits and greens and ever alfalfa hay are the bestest.

Please keep us informed of your decision, and if you need help finding a tort or need more info don't hesitate to e-mail me.{D

Thanks for all the info :) But I still have months of research to do before I buy one. Finding a cheap small tort is still a challenge for me. I emailed the guy in this thread who gave his email address to see if he can get me one and I am looking for any Tort comunities like what another guy in this thread suggested. I still think though I would like a desert tort like the one I seen. I think it was a something spotted tort if you or anyone knows of a spotted tort. The legal issues I don't think it would be a problem. 2 Pet Stores sell them here just for very high prices :( .

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Sounds like a great pet :). But the only store I know that sells them is PCPC and they are $450-$500 :(

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Whoa... I just noticed you were in Canada. That is awfully pricey.
 

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ok. I ran into a website the gave a list of species of Torts. But with the small amount of info given it did not tell me the size of these torts. Here are some Torts that got my attention if anyone knows some info or where I can get them it would be helpful :) Photos would be nice as well as the most of these it only gave a picture that someone drew not real life photo.

Star Tortoise - Geochelone elegans
Burmese Brown Tortoise - Manoria emys
Chilensis Tortoise - Geochelone chilensis
Impressed Tortoise - Manouria impressa
Pancake Tortoise - Malacochersus tornieri
Hermanns Tortoise
Redfoot Tortoise - Geochelone Carbonaria

I shall do more research :)

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Geography Guy said:
ok. I ran into a website the gave a list of species of Torts. But with the small amount of info given it did not tell me the size of these torts. Here are some Torts that got my attention if anyone knows some info or where I can get them it would be helpful :) Photos would be nice as well as the most of these it only gave a picture that someone drew not real life photo.

Star Tortoise - Geochelone elegans
Burmese Brown Tortoise - Manoria emys
Chilensis Tortoise - Geochelone chilensis
Impressed Tortoise - Manouria impressa
Pancake Tortoise - Malacochersus tornieri
Hermanns Tortoise
Redfoot Tortoise - Geochelone Carbonaria

I shall do more research :)

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Star Tortoise - Geochelone elegans Google Image Search

Burmese Brown Tortoise - Manouria emys Google Image Search

Chilensis Tortoise - Geochelone chilensis Google Image Search

Impressed Tortoise - Manouria impressa Google Image Search

Pancake Tortoise - Malacochersus tornieri Google Image Search

Hermanns Tortoise - Testudo hermanni Google Image Search

Redfoot Tortoise - Geochelone Carbonaria Google Image Search
 

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I think I would like the Indian Star Tortoise. But the only place in Canada I know that sells them charges $700 for a baby.

Still doing research though

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Out of all the ones you listed I would recommend the redfoot. Pancakes and stars are probabaly going to be the most expensive.
 

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Highlander said:
Out of all the ones you listed I would recommend the redfoot. Pancakes and stars are probabaly going to be the most expensive.

well both red foot and star torts in canada are in the same general price range from $700-$800 from Tortoise Canada or w/e it's called.

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Geography Guy said:
well both red foot and star torts in canada are in the same general price range from $700-$800 from Tortoise Canada or w/e it's called.

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Well, since most tortoises are best kept outdoors, you could use your climate and temp as an indicator. Redfoots do well with warm more humid conditions, while stars will like more of an arid climate.
 

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Highlander said:
Well, since most tortoises are best kept outdoors, you could use your climate and temp as an indicator. Redfoots do well with warm more humid conditions, while stars will like more of an arid climate.
Well to be honest. Only like 2 months of the year is it really warm enough for a Tort to be outside unless it likes snow and ice lol. But Personelly I like an arid climate tort more (even though we are mostly cold :( ) just because it seems easier for me as a beginner to take care of. I also would prefer a Tort that didn't hibernate. But which of those torts would be best for a beginner?

BTW does anyone know of any pet stores in Detroit that might have some torts and other exotic pets?

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As a beginner tortoise I think that the Red Foot would be the better option. Neither of those species hibernate as they are both from pretty warm enviroments. Though I believe that most keepers recommend a slight cooling of around 5 degrees in the winter for red foots. They do require high humidity like I said earlier, which should be kept in the 70-85% range. I believe the average carapace(top shell) is around 12 inches, which makes them a pretty good size as far as tortoises go but still not too big. If you want a good book that should help you learn some more general information as well as help you make an informed decision I recommend :The General Care and Maintenance of Popular Tortoises by Phillipe de Vosjoli. Hope that helps:) .
 
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