Tiny worms coming out of dead dubia?

ReleaseTheQuacken

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Hey so i found a dead dubia in one of my enclosures an it had 3 teeny tiny yellow worms coming from it. I flushed it so I couldnt take a picture of it. Not sure if I should be concerned or not.

Any ideas? They were so small i had to use a light to see them.
 

chanda

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While it's hard to say for certain without actually seeing them, my guess would be maggots - possibly from phorid flies. Phorid flies are tiny flies (about the size of fruit flies or a bit smaller) that are a very common pest. They feed on decaying organic matter - such as a dead roach or spoiled food - and are very quick to find anything dead, dying, or decaying and lay eggs on it. The maggots can develop surprisingly quickly, so you may see them very soon after death.
 

ReleaseTheQuacken

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While it's hard to say for certain without actually seeing them, my guess would be maggots - possibly from phorid flies. Phorid flies are tiny flies (about the size of fruit flies or a bit smaller) that are a very common pest. They feed on decaying organic matter - such as a dead roach or spoiled food - and are very quick to find anything dead, dying, or decaying and lay eggs on it. The maggots can develop surprisingly quickly, so you may see them very soon after death.
Are they harmful? they were tiny. about the size of a paper clip or rather as thin as one. Maybe a little thinner.

I wonder if its parasites. I have pet frogs and toads so I am curious if this is a red flag to take everything to the vet(which are closed cause corona... lol...)

P.s. should I assume that my dubias are infected?
 

BepopCola

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Some nematodes live in the soil and eat the tiny, dead, and decaying. They are pointy on both ends
 

chanda

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Are they harmful? they were tiny. about the size of a paper clip or rather as thin as one. Maybe a little thinner.

I wonder if its parasites. I have pet frogs and toads so I am curious if this is a red flag to take everything to the vet(which are closed cause corona... lol...)

P.s. should I assume that my dubias are infected?
Without seeing them, I can't say for sure whether it is or isn't parasites.

I know that I get phorid fly maggots in my cages if there's a dead cricket or cockroach - or uneaten veggies - and they are tiny yellowish/whitish worms (maggots). They're generally not a big deal - just get rid of whatever the maggots are feeding on to get rid of them. The only problem we have is when the dang things get into the fruit fly cultures, because they will out-compete the fruit fly maggots and take over the cultures.

If they are phorid flies, then there's no need to take your frogs or toads to the vet. They generally don't hurt live/healthy pets, though I do suspect that they might be detrimental to those that are already injured. I had a tarantula that suffered a bad molt and lost a few legs - and a few days later, she was dead and heavily infested with phorid fly maggots, particularly around the stumps of the missing legs. It could be that they laid eggs on her after she died - or while she was dying - and the larvae just grew that fast - but I suspected that they might have started breeding in the stumps of the legs before she died, and might even have contributed to her death.

As long as your other roaches and your frogs/toads are uninjured and in good health, if it is just phorid flies, they should be fine.
 

ReleaseTheQuacken

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Without seeing them, I can't say for sure whether it is or isn't parasites.

I know that I get phorid fly maggots in my cages if there's a dead cricket or cockroach - or uneaten veggies - and they are tiny yellowish/whitish worms (maggots). They're generally not a big deal - just get rid of whatever the maggots are feeding on to get rid of them. The only problem we have is when the dang things get into the fruit fly cultures, because they will out-compete the fruit fly maggots and take over the cultures.

If they are phorid flies, then there's no need to take your frogs or toads to the vet. They generally don't hurt live/healthy pets, though I do suspect that they might be detrimental to those that are already injured. I had a tarantula that suffered a bad molt and lost a few legs - and a few days later, she was dead and heavily infested with phorid fly maggots, particularly around the stumps of the missing legs. It could be that they laid eggs on her after she died - or while she was dying - and the larvae just grew that fast - but I suspected that they might have started breeding in the stumps of the legs before she died, and might even have contributed to her death.

As long as your other roaches and your frogs/toads are uninjured and in good health, if it is just phorid flies, they should be fine.
Damn I wish I kept to see them but yeah they were attached to the dead roach. I got curious and examined the dead roach because it wasn't that old? The enclosures been humid.
 

BepopCola

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Actually it very much looks like one. Transparent too. but like yellow transparent. Are they harmful?
There are so many varieties that I can't say for sure, but most aren't harmful. Mine were white, and I did have a population boom then they ate up all my springtails.
Just to make sure they didn't come out of the roach, you can lay out a slice of a cucumber or something and see if you get any on there.
I'd see them from time to time climbing on the walls of my humid tanks whipping thier heads back and forth.
 

ReleaseTheQuacken

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There are so many varieties that I can't say for sure, but most aren't harmful. Mine were white, and I did have a population boom then they ate up all my springtails.
Just to make sure they didn't come out of the roach, you can lay out a slice of a cucumber or something and see if you get any on there.
I'd see them from time to time climbing on the walls of my humid tanks whipping thier heads back and forth.
I have no cucumber and the roach was flushed. Dx

They looked more like nematodes though
 
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